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Skinty
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One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/
#18835899 - 09/13/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spawned to bulk on 06/09 (or 09/06 for the Yanks ) 1:2 ratio.
I spose to me it looks covered except for that patch you can see in the last picture. It's been like this for several days though - I was not expected it to be covered this quickly. Saying that my stupid assistant (aka buddy) forgot to give me two jars to mix in so they kind of only got part mixed in and mainly near the top.
I wondered then whether it was worth giving it a couple more days as the center might not be colonised and also to wait for that little patch to cover...? 
Apologies as I know people post this *&^% again and again!
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18835901 - 09/13/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also on a lot of the pics I've seen you can't see the colour of the grains peaking through (this was done with rye) but in my tub you can clearly see the grainy colour...that a problem??
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18835906 - 09/13/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It looks fully colo'd to me but I found that consolidation time of at least 5 days or until pins appear is best for mono's
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: PrinceShroom]
#18836092 - 09/13/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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PrinceShroom said: It looks fully colo'd to me but I found that consolidation time of at least 5 days or until pins appear is best for mono's
Well I'm off to a festie tomorrow so I guess I'll just put it into fruiting before I leave right?!
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18836096 - 09/13/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
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PrinceShroom said: It looks fully colo'd to me but I found that consolidation time of at least 5 days or until pins appear is best for mono's
Well I'm off to a festie tomorrow so I guess I'll just put it into fruiting before I leave right?!
Personally if your going to be less than a week i would leave it till i got back for a better pinset. Tl's one flush wonder mono tek suggests the same thing
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: PrinceShroom]
#18836292 - 09/13/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It seems everyone has different opinions about whether to let bulk substrate have a consolidation period or not. Through your own experience you'll have to decide what you thinks work better. To answer your question it is 100 percent colonized and can be put into fruiting if you so desire
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Stromrider]
#18836305 - 09/13/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: It seems everyone has different opinions about whether to let bulk substrate have a consolidation period or not. Through your own experience you'll have to decide what you thinks work better. To answer your question it is 100 percent colonized and can be put into fruiting if you so desire
Before the festie it is then! The perfect thing about that is that means not looking at it for 3/4 days and hopefully coming back to a nice surprise
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18836318 - 09/13/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I seriously doubt you will have pins when you return. When you put a tub into fruiting right at 100 percent you don't usually see pins for about 5 to 10 days. Who knows though. Maybe you'll have a quick pinning strain
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Stromrider]
#18836334 - 09/13/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: I seriously doubt you will have pins when you return. When you put a tub into fruiting right at 100 percent you don't usually see pins for about 5 to 10 days. Who knows though. Maybe you'll have a quick pinning strain
Well I did say "hopefully" and it's been looking like 100% for a few days so hoping for something when I get back 
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18836342 - 09/13/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll cross my fingers for ya! Show us some pics of the progress when you get back. Have fun at the festival
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Stromrider]
#18836383 - 09/13/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: I'll cross my fingers for ya! Show us some pics of the progress when you get back. Have fun at the festival 
Thanks buddy IF it's a success I'll post the proverbial "mushroom prOn" if not I will hang my head in shame and not be seen here for a month or two 
And don't worry - I will have a massive amount of fun at the festival despite the trapped nerve in my neck that has meant I literally have not slept since Tuesday night  
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18836478 - 09/13/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fruit them.
Consolidation is for high-nutrient substrates like BRF+verm. The mycelium needs time to "digest" the substrate.
Pasteurized bulk is very low-nutrient, and once it is colonized 100% it should be fruited. This will maximize yields and minimize aborts.
FAE is the number one pinning trigger. With low levels of nutrients in your bulk, you should not smother the tub when it is fully colonized.
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18836629 - 09/13/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I opened it up briefly and accidentally disturbed the top layer and doesnt look at all colonised underneath
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18836647 - 09/13/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Of course it doesn't, you damaged the mycelium.
The same logic applies to grains that are 100%.
When you break up your jar of grains, the mycelium that was nice and healthy looking "vanishes."
That does not mean it is not 100% colonized, it just means that the mycelium now has to recover.
I've run many hundreds of tubs at this point. They all get fruited at 100%.
I've tried consolidating many different times with many different isolates. IMO it is only detrimental to consolidate bulk
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18836710 - 09/13/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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See Frank ive done the same thing with isolates and had a variance of upto 200 grams difference (Fresh)
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: PrinceShroom]
#18836723 - 09/13/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Myself and others have found that by fruiting at 100%, it increases yields pretty reliably 
Plus the science behind consolidating high-nutrient substrates is sound, but not so much for consolidating bulk.
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18836884 - 09/13/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I'm gonna leave it a bit longer TBH 
When I say a bit longer I mean I have some ice cream to eat, I need a ciggy and I want a beer. Hopefully doing these things will increase my yield
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18836940 - 09/13/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whatever you do, that tub looks good!
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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18836956 - 09/13/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I did it. Skipped the ice cream though...



Hope I dialled it like a boss 
On a side note has anyone ID'd this contam yet??


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Re: One of those annoying "is my monotub ready for fruiting" posts :/ [Re: Skinty]
#18836961 - 09/13/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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BTW ignore he micropore I was just covering some old holes I made for some reason yonks ago...
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