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PrinceShroom
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I dont think many people can this amount at one location. Even keeping up with 2-3 lbs a month w monos is hard IME. A lot harder than you would think. Ive went into a room of monos and as soon as I opened the door I knew I was fuct I could smell it in the air. 40 mono's all trich'd out in the space of a day and it seems to happen alot. Thats why I am staying away from them now.
To get 2-3 lbs a month I am doing 10 monos a wk in a sog sort of setup for shrooms. Thats a 10 jar run a day. Even more because of the fact I have to overgrow 2-3 lbs cause I am expected to produce at least so much a month and there are high chances of failure so I try to grow more but fuck its hard. Ive been doing this for the past four years I know what I am talking about and I have talked to other scale growers and they can barely produce what I am or more.
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mycomattie



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Re: Larger Farms [Re: maddchef]
#18836310 - 09/13/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Someone here wrote a tek. Then got busted early this year in Ohio with 137 lbs. Google Ohio shroom bust, think his name was trix or something similar.
Anywho to get that large of a setup through a single rotation it would take roughly 6 weeks.
Same as anything else really. That's assuming he goes from spores to finished product. If he goes agar or G2G it can be easily done in 4. But it would involve constant rotation as you said. And a big ass pc if op doesn't wanna have to pc all day everyday, also a bulk pasteurizer.
Hoy shit - WOW!
Thanks for the clarification - sounds like that large of a scale grow would almost be a full time job?
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PrinceShroom
Experienced Mofo



Registered: 04/01/13
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mycomattie said:
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maddchef said: Someone here wrote a tek. Then got busted early this year in Ohio with 137 lbs. Google Ohio shroom bust, think his name was trix or something similar.
Anywho to get that large of a setup through a single rotation it would take roughly 6 weeks.
Same as anything else really. That's assuming he goes from spores to finished product. If he goes agar or G2G it can be easily done in 4. But it would involve constant rotation as you said. And a big ass pc if op doesn't wanna have to pc all day everyday, also a bulk pasteurizer.
Hoy shit - WOW!
Thanks for the clarification - sounds like that large of a scale grow would almost be a full time job?
It is. I am a slave to the grow!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mycomattie



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PrinceShroom said: I dont think many people can this amount at one location. Even keeping up with 2-3 lbs a month w monos is hard IME. A lot harder than you would think. Ive went into a room of monos and as soon as I opened the door I knew I was fuct I could smell it in the air. 40 mono's all trich'd out in the space of a day and it seems to happen alot. Thats why I am staying away from them now.
To get 2-3 lbs a month I am doing 10 monos a wk in a sog sort of setup for shrooms. Thats a 10 jar run a day. Even more because of the fact I have to overgrow 2-3 lbs cause I am expected to produce at least so much a month and there are high chances of failure so I try to grow more but fuck its hard. Ive been doing this for the past four years I know what I am talking about and I have talked to other scale growers and they can barely produce what I am or more.
I definitely don't doubt you dude!
Wow - seems like a lot of pressure to grow/produce those yields consistently! With that being said, I'd never doubt your ability - cheers!
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DeadPhan


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Re: Larger Farms [Re: maddchef]
#18836361 - 09/13/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Someone here wrote a tek. Then got busted early this year in Ohio with 137 lbs. Google Ohio shroom bust, think his name was trix or something similar.
Anywho to get that large of a setup through a single rotation it would take roughly 6 weeks.
Same as anything else really. That's assuming he goes from spores to finished product. If he goes agar or G2G it can be easily done in 4. But it would involve constant rotation as you said. And a big ass pc if op doesn't wanna have to pc all day everyday, also a bulk pasteurizer.
Do you think the writing of the tek contributed to his bust? Or just shady associations. Either way, I'd like to think Leo wouldn't come snooping unless they though it was such large scale.
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DeadPhan


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Re: Larger Farms [Re: DeadPhan]
#18836371 - 09/13/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wish we were able to get the story behind such busts like wether someone had a big mouth, got snitched out, busted elsewhere and led Leo back to said place of grow, or, worst of all, being monitored, possibly from nothing other than online activity.
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PrinceShroom
Experienced Mofo



Registered: 04/01/13
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Loc: Aiel Waste
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Re: Larger Farms [Re: DeadPhan]
#18836376 - 09/13/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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DeadPhan said:
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maddchef said: Someone here wrote a tek. Then got busted early this year in Ohio with 137 lbs. Google Ohio shroom bust, think his name was trix or something similar.
Anywho to get that large of a setup through a single rotation it would take roughly 6 weeks.
Same as anything else really. That's assuming he goes from spores to finished product. If he goes agar or G2G it can be easily done in 4. But it would involve constant rotation as you said. And a big ass pc if op doesn't wanna have to pc all day everyday, also a bulk pasteurizer.
Do you think the writing of the tek contributed to his bust? Or just shady associations. Either way, I'd like to think Leo wouldn't come snooping unless they though it was such large scale. 
Id like to know too now that I posted this lol I am glad I live in a pretty tolerant country to drugs thankfully
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maddchef
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Registered: 09/04/09
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Supposedly cops were called to the location on an attempted break in call. Probably bs used to gain access to the premises. Who knows how they got it.
Just goes to show if you go big, post about going big, the leos that live here will want to congratulate you on your grow.
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FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



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Re: Larger Farms [Re: maddchef]
#18836450 - 09/13/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I pull 10+ a month off my monotubs.
They work great
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mycomattie



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PrinceShroom
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FrankHorrigan said: I pull 10 a month off my monotubs.
They work great 
Yea it must be nice. I have spoken to other growers and they have had the same issue as me.
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FrankHorrigan
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I don't know about "nice" being the best word for it...more like a shit ton of work if I want to ensure success from start to finish.
I have had every contam problem under the sun.
Every kind of green, pink, black mold, bacterial slime, everything. On bulk, grains, in the greenhouse, etc.
I live in a house with four animals and the wife.
I once lost 24 tubs to trich in the same room I still use today.
I use the procedures I write about in my sig and my issues have been reduced to almost none.
It can be done. What fruiting chamber you choose to use is still going to be prone to all the same problems.
Edited by FrankHorrigan (09/13/13 12:21 PM)
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ely2121
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Lots and lots of work...listen to frank, it is more than doable but it helps if you are smart and can listen to people on here.
Good luck with your venture.
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Mush4Brains
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FrankHorrigan said: I pull 10+ a month off my monotubs.
They work great 
Yeah, something doesn't quite add up with all of it. With good genetics and running 10 tubs a week continuously I can't see 10lbs being too tough to get with proper diligence and time. If you're having that much contamination issues there is most definitely something wrong with your procedure somewhere.
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Midnight Cyclone
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maddchef said: Monos aren't practical as the space. For rotational issues why not spawn run in small tubs, then take the blocks out, fruit them in a GH, and immediately start colonizing more in said tub?
For 10lbs a month the name of the game is constant, constant, constant rotation. Wether it be monos, trays in a GH, blocks, etc. My argument for blocks is you'll have 6 sides to fruit from and will exhaust your substrate a lot faster in theory.
This is good. What I do is I use spawn bags. Use the bags for the colonization of the substrate. Once it's fully colonized just knead the bag to loosen the substrate and pour into a tray. If you're planning to use Al trays, be sure to use a liner or the myc will eat through the Al.
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PrinceShroom said:
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FrankHorrigan said: I pull 10 a month off my monotubs.
They work great 
Yea it must be nice. I have spoken to other growers and they have had the same issue as me.
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FrankHorrigan said: I don't know about "nice" being the best word for it...more like a shit ton of work if I want to ensure success from start to finish.
I have had every contam problem under the sun.
Every kind of green, pink, black mold, bacterial slime, everything. On bulk, grains, in the greenhouse, etc.
I live in a house with four animals and the wife.
I once lost 24 tubs to trich in the same room I still use today.
I use the procedures I write about in my sig and my issues have been reduced to almost none.
It can be done. What fruiting chamber you choose to use is still going to be prone to all the same problems.
This. Like Frank said, "nice" doesn't quite describe the "problem" with trying to run 10 lbs a month. It's a part time job if not full time trying to produce a constant quantity like that.
You're going to get contams. There just isn't a way around that. Sooner or later something will sneak in and test your patience. Just gotta persevere and all will work out. Follow all necessary sterile procedures, and be sure to always be "clean" (at least washing your hands) before you do any kind of work with mush.
If you've already mastered agar, then there should be nothing standing in your way. Good luck and keep us posted!
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