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    #18834866 - 09/12/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hi, i was wondering is it better to wait until you see pinning before you dunk it for 12 hours? also i read you suppose to wait 1 week after it has spread threw out the jar. my jar has just connected all the way around. but there is still some vermiculite spots in the jar. do i suppose to wait 1 week after the whole jar is white or it doesn't matter that much?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834885 - 09/12/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure your not growing edibles?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834893 - 09/12/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

also i used a total of 6 jars, all of them were done the same. i have 1 jar almost colonized and 2 other jars that just started growing. the other 3 jars haven't done a thing. i read some web sites are a fraud? i didn't know after i bought it. i got my spores from spores101 is it possible that site just gave me some shit syringes ? i read good reviews from it so none of it makes any sence to me


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834897 - 09/12/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nope


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834903 - 09/12/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18834943 - 09/12/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i ment yes i am sure what i am growing


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834957 - 09/12/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

for some reason i had 1 jar start growing mycelium within a few days and the rest of the jars started in 2 weeks. is that normal?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834965 - 09/12/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

edit off the website name, forum rules lol


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834970 - 09/12/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If one of them is colonizing then the syringe isn't at fault.
Did you forget to shake each time, at each inoculation site?
It happens..

As for consolidation, yea wait about a week.


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18834976 - 09/12/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what about my main question at the top?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834978 - 09/12/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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for some reason i had 1 jar start growing mycelium within a few days and the rest of the jars started in 2 weeks. is that normal?




It's Mulitspore(MS). It takes however much long for them to find mates.

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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18834990 - 09/12/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

is it better to wait and see pinning before you take the cake out of the jar?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834995 - 09/12/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if your putting it in a FC no, take ot once 100%, dunk
& roll and place on a piece of aluminum big enough for just the cake.


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18834999 - 09/12/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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is it better to wait and see pinning before you take the cake out of the jar?




No! You want to birth, dunk & roll and place in your SGFC.
You might want to read back up on the pf tek!

Heres D&R.

http://www.shroomery.org/5188/What-is-Dunk-and-Roll


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18835012 - 09/12/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ok also how will i know when my jar is completely colonized? it was looking at it closely and the whole jar looks white. accept the bottom of it so that means i need to flip my jar correct?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18835017 - 09/12/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would like an answer to that aswell.
I think my ar is almost done, it has alil part where the white hasn't beem yet either


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: udntsay]
    #18835051 - 09/12/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You want to wait a full week after the cakes hits full colonization before birthing....this will give the cakes time to consolidate.

If you don't give them this extra week, they will just sit in the FC and consolidate there.....so better to just keep them in the jar for the week, and save yourself from that much misting/fanning.

Dunk for 24 hours, not just 12.....then roll in dry verm and place in the fruiting chamber.

When the mycellium has turned all the substrate white, it is fully colonized.


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: udntsay]
    #18835054 - 09/12/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes that's correct.
If it's still not colonized flip it(might be outdated though not sure).
But it's what I did. And that's why we wait a week for it to consolidate after 100%.. so it can get nice and deep into the cake.


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18835060 - 09/12/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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And that's why we wait a week for it to consolidate after 100%.. so it can get nice and deep into the cake.



No, no it's not....

If the outside is completely colonized, then so is the inside.....mycellium grows outward in a 3D spherical pattern.

Consolidation is giving the mycellium time to digest some of the nutritious substrate it has colonized.


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18835062 - 09/12/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what about the bottom of the jar? i was reading you suppose to flip it? or is that not necessary


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18835065 - 09/12/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nvm just read it forget what i said


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18835069 - 09/12/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not really needed unless the mycellium stalls, and even then sometimes flipping it does not help.

Just leave the jars alone until fully colonized and consolidated.

Flipping them is more like a last resort type of thing if they stall out....other than that it is just not needed.


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18835072 - 09/12/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

one last question, i have 2 jars that haven't started growing mycelium yet. its been 3 weeks now. should i assume there just duds and toss them or hold on to it for a few more weeks?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: PussyFart]
    #18835075 - 09/12/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Nice Ol Bud said:
And that's why we wait a week for it to consolidate after 100%.. so it can get nice and deep into the cake.



No, no it's not....

If the outside is completely colonized, then so is the inside.....mycellium grows outward in a 3D spherical pattern.

Consolidation is giving the mycellium time to digest some of the nutritious substrate it has colonized.




Very interesting. I feel ashamed now for posting that :sad:


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18835079 - 09/12/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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one last question, i have 2 jars that haven't started growing mycelium yet. its been 3 weeks now. should i assume there just duds and toss them or hold on to it for a few more weeks?



If it has been 3 weeks since inoculation I would start over....

Sounds like bunk spores or something....


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: PussyFart]
    #18835086 - 09/12/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i have 3 jars that are coming along nicely. i have 1 other jar that just recently started growing a few days ago. then i have 1 jar that got contaminated with some orangish colored mold. so 4 out of 6 jars for my first time growing mushrooms is pretty good?


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18835088 - 09/12/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

anyways thanks for the valuable info! wish me luck


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: ithernet]
    #18835091 - 09/12/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck!
Anymore question's & we'll be here.
Have to promise us some Pin Porn though! :smile:


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Re: growing Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18835093 - 09/12/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you got it!


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