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lsd trips and the mind.
    #18833965 - 09/12/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hey everybody I'm new to this site but I want to talk about an experience I had a few months ago. I took two hits of LSD with my good friend and we tripped pretty good. On the come down I started smoking some res from my pipe and I noticed I was slightly coming up. But not too much at all. Then I decided to start zoning out and imagine patterns in my head on the floor. I did this for quite some time. So basically I made a trip again mainly using the power of my mind by imagining my floor making patterns . The patterns were more vivd the more I zoned out. I did it to the point that everything was colors and the air in my room was a color. I was tripping pretty hard and I kept entering new dimensions as I zoned out. It was pretty hard to not to zone out at the time.  My surroundings were the same but crazy geometric patterns lining every wall of my room. The trip was way more harder then the trip I just had with 2 hits of acid. It lasted around 9 hours of full tripping. I tripped twice in one night.  And I didn't even go to sleep after the trip ended because I was still amazed at what I just did. Now I notice things trail normally and I have visual snow a lot and tracers. Also when I get high it doesn't feel like a normal weed high, It feels like I'm on LSD. And if I think about my trips or imagine something in my head like if I was tripping I can almost trip if I thought about it and zoned out. I am wondering if anybody else has this ability to do that ? I don't have hppd just the effects I explained earlier. I forgot to add that the reality I see is a lot faker then it used to be but it doesn't bother me anymore. I pretty much have to not think about tripping in order to not too. Its not as bad as it used to be where if I had one thought I couldn't get my mind off of it. Would I be OK if I took any hallucinogens again?


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: bmxitrip]
    #18834012 - 09/12/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

psychedelics are powerful drugs man and smoking cannabis on the comedown usually makes the effects come back but ive never heard for another full 9 hours maybe the LSD u got was just really good? anyways it sounds like you have a slight case of HPPD with the visual snow and tracers you have.... be careful with ur use of psychs HPPD isnt something you want to have permenatly


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: Taybs]
    #18834179 - 09/12/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The LSD I got wasn't completely pure. And the trip wasn't as crazy as the one after that. I think I unlocked some part of my mind by zoning out like that but I'm not completely sure on it.


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: bmxitrip]
    #18834222 - 09/12/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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bmxitrip said:
Hey everybody I'm new to this site but I want to talk about an experience I had a few months ago. I took two hits of LSD with my good friend and we tripped pretty good. On the come down I started smoking some res from my pipe and I noticed I was slightly coming up. But not too much at all. Then I decided to start zoning out and imagine patterns in my head on the floor. I did this for quite some time. So basically I made a trip again mainly using the power of my mind by imagining my floor making patterns . The patterns were more vivd the more I zoned out. I did it to the point that everything was colors and the air in my room was a color. I was tripping pretty hard and I kept entering new dimensions as I zoned out. It was pretty hard to not to zone out at the time.  My surroundings were the same but crazy geometric patterns lining every wall of my room. The trip was way more harder then the trip I just had with 2 hits of acid. It lasted around 9 hours of full tripping. I tripped twice in one night.  And I didn't even go to sleep after the trip ended because I was still amazed at what I just did. Now I notice things trail normally and I have visual snow a lot and tracers. Also when I get high it doesn't feel like a normal weed high, It feels like I'm on LSD. And if I think about my trips or imagine something in my head like if I was tripping I can almost trip if I thought about it and zoned out. I am wondering if anybody else has this ability to do that ? I don't have hppd just the effects I explained earlier. I forgot to add that the reality I see is a lot faker then it used to be but it doesn't bother me anymore. I pretty much have to not think about tripping in order to not too. Its not as bad as it used to be where if I had one thought I couldn't get my mind off of it. Would I be OK if I took any hallucinogens again?



"Also when I get high it doesn't feel like a normal weed high, It feels like I'm on LSD"

Seems you won the lottery ?;-)

It's the same for me, I quit weed though , but I enjoyed it

LSD often changes weed highs, so weed will be too intense afterwards for some people

HPPD symptoms are usually temporary (tracers,snow etc), gets less after several months to 1 year or so...
if you don't trip again

smoking makes them worse usually, one reason I quit everyday weed smoking

I don't have much of a problem with the tracers/snow, it's hardly noticeable unless I look for it
and always intense right after a trip
but each person experiences them differently sometimes it seems


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18834248 - 09/12/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i remember one time about 2 year ago i was following furthur around for the 2011 west coast tour they stopped in colorado and played at red rocks, well i ended up getting puddled in both hands and that was an amazing trip, but it finally wore off, when i smoke i feel like im trippin sometimes but its never a problem unless you let it become one


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: Taybs]
    #18834277 - 09/12/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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psychedelics are powerful drugs man and smoking cannabis on the comedown usually makes the effects come back but ive never heard for another full 9 hours maybe the LSD u got was just really good? anyways it sounds like you have a slight case of HPPD with the visual snow and tracers you have.... be careful with ur use of psychs HPPD isnt something you want to have permenatly



This exact attitude is why you wouldn't want HPPD permanently and should definitely be cautious with psychedelics. If you're ok with yourself. Confident in yourself under massive amounts of psychedelics by knowing to embrace the chaos you'll have a good outcome and your HPPD will permanently be positive. On the trips where we can't let go and it scars us for life. HPPD is a problem that can scar you for life.


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18834281 - 09/12/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Can't smoke weed anymore, except maybe every 4-6 months max

But salvia is still good, feel good the next day after it, and it is as good as LSD (still only do it 1-3 times a year currently)

My reality can be as fake looking as yours, but that is because you know something now

Nothing exists, that is what I know

but that doesn't mean we can't appreciate a fake reality... soul seems to exist, equally great soul in every living creature and every person .. reality is spiritual
I think it's possible to see reality like it is, if you turn off all thoughts

do what you love at all times, then it's impossible to be unhappy
nature everyday helps a lot

I'm sure you will learn a lot from your experience... which can help yourself and others if you use it right


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18834302 - 09/12/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It hasn't been an problem for me. It was at first because I would trip when I got high but its mellowed out by now. And I usually get tracers if I have a small light and it moves, like an Xbox controller Leigh for example. As for the snow. When I smoke it gets Much more noticeable , like I can see white dots on anything


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: bmxitrip]
    #18834320 - 09/12/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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bmxitrip said:
Hey everybody I'm new to this site but I want to talk about an experience I had a few months ago. I took two hits of LSD with my good friend and we tripped pretty good. On the come down I started smoking some res from my pipe and I noticed I was slightly coming up. But not too much at all. Then I decided to start zoning out and imagine patterns in my head on the floor. I did this for quite some time. So basically I made a trip again mainly using the power of my mind by imagining my floor making patterns . The patterns were more vivd the more I zoned out. I did it to the point that everything was colors and the air in my room was a color. I was tripping pretty hard and I kept entering new dimensions as I zoned out. It was pretty hard to not to zone out at the time.  My surroundings were the same but crazy geometric patterns lining every wall of my room. The trip was way more harder then the trip I just had with 2 hits of acid. It lasted around 9 hours of full tripping. I tripped twice in one night.  And I didn't even go to sleep after the trip ended because I was still amazed at what I just did. Now I notice things trail normally and I have visual snow a lot and tracers. Also when I get high it doesn't feel like a normal weed high, It feels like I'm on LSD. And if I think about my trips or imagine something in my head like if I was tripping I can almost trip if I thought about it and zoned out. I am wondering if anybody else has this ability to do that ? I don't have hppd just the effects I explained earlier. I forgot to add that the reality I see is a lot faker then it used to be but it doesn't bother me anymore. I pretty much have to not think about tripping in order to not too. Its not as bad as it used to be where if I had one thought I couldn't get my mind off of it. Would I be OK if I took any hallucinogens again?




Would I be OK if I took any hallucinogens again?

I think you'd be alright man if your comfortable with it then whats the problem? you already know how it is. From personal experience I've had bad trips before and it would sorta fuck me up to where i would become disassociative with people and just have this crappy attitude and weirdness about things then i would say nah im not tripping again, BUT I DID and I've found that if the wheel ends on a bad note or to where u feel like a bummer after the trip or during the trip, if you trip again it'll just place your wheel in a different position perhaps an optimistic one !


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18834352 - 09/12/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Have you ever had a dream you were so sure was real, what if you were unable to wake from that dream, would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

that's a good matrix quote ;-)

what is the most real, the reality that lsd shows us, or the reality we see when we are living as our thoughts/desires/emotions (the old reality before doing lsd) ?
I don't doubt which one is more real.. its obvious

it is interesting that the reality shroom and other psychedelics show us is the same as with lsd

and that the reality in lucid dreams feels more real than ordinary reality often

it's a good thing to question reality sometimes, because else it is easy to get attached i.e.

if you question everything you likely don't need anything to be happy, you will probably know that the day you die is not the end of it all
which means you can appreciate what you have now, without the fear of dying, without the fear of not getting what you always wanted(without taking anything for granted)

your mind is breaking free of its previous illusions likely

it's natural for everything to be fake looking for a while after... because everything you valued probably was fake (at least in my own experience)

that's the only way I can write it, it's not anything personal, I think the experience is not unique to anybody, but most people get there sooner or later
then they find themselves, what they were missing

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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18834387 - 09/12/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have had many lucid dreams since the experiences I wrote in this post. And I noticed in my dreams it does seem real so to me its like living another life, except its a different thing every night. And I Also noticed I can make decisions in my dreams from my actual conscious that effect the dream.  Ive also had dreams where I wake up ( but still asleep) and I'm tripping hells hard. Its pretty interesting when those dreams happen because it feels real hehe


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18834545 - 09/12/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say take the red pill, thats where  everything starts to fall into pieces (egodeath with lsd/shrooms)

It's no more mindblowing than a good lucid dream

both blow minds

but it will probably change your life if you go there
ego gets rebuilt after it, so nothing to fear
the experience is very valuable, a must do for any psychonaut IMO
it's like combining all trips into one, everything started to come into one big piece

if you make it there will be no fear left in your mind, and no worries


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18834651 - 09/12/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe stick with natural medicine? ex. Mushrooms, DMT


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #18834723 - 09/12/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Don't think it matters much which psychedelic you do, only how you do it

LSD,salvia,dmt,lsa(hbwr,morning glory),ayahuasca,magic mushrooms,mescaline

chose one yourself, they can all teach basically the same from what I've seen with people

take them as the sacred medicine they are, that's why I prefer to eat healthily and abstain from other drugs before taking them + always remember set/setting/dose(turn phone off,be alone)

they can all give egodeath, or teach the same things

I prefer a psychedelic that gives me the most time with nature, because nature is what teaches me in trips and in daily life
LSD is perfect for that... long trip time, no bodyload, never freakout on it


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: bmxitrip]
    #18834743 - 09/12/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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bmxitrip said:
Hey everybody I'm new to this site but I want to talk about an experience I had a few months ago. I took two hits of LSD with my good friend and we tripped pretty good. On the come down I started smoking some res from my pipe and I noticed I was slightly coming up. But not too much at all. Then I decided to start zoning out and imagine patterns in my head on the floor. I did this for quite some time. So basically I made a trip again mainly using the power of my mind by imagining my floor making patterns . The patterns were more vivd the more I zoned out. I did it to the point that everything was colors and the air in my room was a color. I was tripping pretty hard and I kept entering new dimensions as I zoned out. It was pretty hard to not to zone out at the time.  My surroundings were the same but crazy geometric patterns lining every wall of my room. The trip was way more harder then the trip I just had with 2 hits of acid. It lasted around 9 hours of full tripping. I tripped twice in one night.  And I didn't even go to sleep after the trip ended because I was still amazed at what I just did. Now I notice things trail normally and I have visual snow a lot and tracers. Also when I get high it doesn't feel like a normal weed high, It feels like I'm on LSD. And if I think about my trips or imagine something in my head like if I was tripping I can almost trip if I thought about it and zoned out. I am wondering if anybody else has this ability to do that ? I don't have hppd just the effects I explained earlier. I forgot to add that the reality I see is a lot faker then it used to be but it doesn't bother me anymore. I pretty much have to not think about tripping in order to not too. Its not as bad as it used to be where if I had one thought I couldn't get my mind off of it. Would I be OK if I took any hallucinogens again?




I'm surprised you're experiencing this after only one trip. I also have the visual snow and tracers, but after tripping roughly 10 times in a month and a half, mainly on shrooms, but didn't experience the symptoms till after my 3rd acid trip. It has been nearly two weeks since my last trip and the symptoms are dying down now, the snow isn't as intense and the trails are pretty mild. When I smoke weed it intensifys the symptoms and it's like I'm slightly tripping again. The visual snow/static gets strong and if I focus on my stucco walls, the designs start to crawl. Plain white walls have the most static/snow during the day, and nighttime is a trip. Really hard to navigate through darkness with all the colorful static.


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: bmxitrip]
    #18835266 - 09/13/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How much LSD have you done?

This seems weird if you haven't done it before and it is happening already.

Either way though I can do this all the time now. Some kind green definitely makes me trip every time now but I've LSD like a 100 times.

Weed always makes my trip last longer... but another 9 hours? Were you smoking throughout those 9 hours? If so that makes sense but if not it is kinda weird. Either way it all depends if it bothers you or not man. Personally for me it sounds like you hit the lottery to me like one dude said.

I know what you mean with the zoning out and focusing on visuals making the trip stronger. You should try that next time while in the peak and smoking some weed and see what happens. I guarantee it will be more intense then the comedown :wink:


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: lessismore]
    #18835536 - 09/13/13 03:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mio said:
Have you ever had a dream you were so sure was real, what if you were unable to wake from that dream, would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

that's a good matrix quote ;-)

what is the most real, the reality that lsd shows us, or the reality we see when we are living as our thoughts/desires/emotions (the old reality before doing lsd) ?
I don't doubt which one is more real.. its obvious

it is interesting that the reality shroom and other psychedelics show us is the same as with lsd

and that the reality in lucid dreams feels more real than ordinary reality often

it's a good thing to question reality sometimes, because else it is easy to get attached i.e.

if you question everything you likely don't need anything to be happy, you will probably know that the day you die is not the end of it all
which means you can appreciate what you have now, without the fear of dying, without the fear of not getting what you always wanted(without taking anything for granted)

your mind is breaking free of its previous illusions likely

it's natural for everything to be fake looking for a while after... because everything you valued probably was fake (at least in my own experience)

that's the only way I can write it, it's not anything personal, I think the experience is not unique to anybody, but most people get there sooner or later
then they find themselves, what they were missing

peace




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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: ILikeACID]
    #18835771 - 09/13/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've done acid once before that. And I only smoked like 30 minutes and then the other 8 and a half hours I tripped. I didnt have a bad trip either with the two hits I took. The way I put it is I zoned out and imagined a trip and I made my mind play tricks on itself therefore triggering another trip.


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Re: lsd trips and the mind. [Re: bmxitrip]
    #18835850 - 09/13/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

the soul is equally great in every living creature

god is great :-)

no coincidences, no matter how much we doubt

if only we could be grateful...


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