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2Experimental said: You win what?
Think about it brah
nothing, i was just being pedantic.

you think i am trolling, buttmunch? then face me!!!11

you will die! you're soul is mine! save your pity for the weak!!1
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st1llnox
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: pcplease]
#18835247 - 09/13/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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pcplease said: Alcohol will cancel out a lot of the "mind-expanding" (NMDA) effects being as it releases GABA.
Like I said before I don't think you've done all of your homework.
You like to do DXM. Its a drug you find fun. Whether or not you're an "addict" depends on your definition only.
And also, Your troubles with spice could have so easily be in your head. Most cannabinoids are some of the most panic-inducing psychoactives known. Combined with the fact that you have a presumption that the cannabinoids are possibly toxic sounds like a recipe for horror on your psyche to me.
When you don't have the presumption (and it helps to be working with the pure chemical and make your own blend x1000) you only have to worry about issues with addiction. Which can be caused to a similar, but less extent with weed too. And much easier with strong concentrates like oil. Some are stronger agonists than the naturals but we don't know the effects yet. But negative thoughts perpetuate themselves. As should negative presumptions.
I said that exact thing literally today. Alcohol is actually NMDA-ergic too, you know... I also did note I think in the DXM thread that I'm going to have to repeat the Zofran/DXM thing without Alcohols influence as alcohol dampens the trip (but can enhance it too... some claim it enhances it, although I suspect those are the ones in it for the high instead of the mind things, ya know?).
You seem to be on to two good points but aren't relating them well, but nor is my cognition where it should be right now (did alcohol and DXM tonight).
I know if I bought spice to smoke, I'd probably smoke some and just throw it away when I remember it's not that great, but I just CANT risk getting a super good one that could addict me again. It's possible that the addiction's totally gone and that I wouldn't pick up where I left off with spice, but the thing is it always gets back to that point quickly.
Not that I'm a glimmering example of responsibility, but for me, the responsible thing to do is to simply categorically rule out all synthetic cannabinoids for myself. My lungs are lighting up as I type this and I'm having trouble not thinking about Cloud 10 Storm brand spice, so I think there's still a dormant addiction after all (interpret this as stream-of-consciousness, given this).
I don't actually think the synth cannibs are necessarily toxic, but they're certainly acutely bad for the brain. Now that I've been mostly off drugs for about a week, I'm back to the point where tonight my mom couldn't understand my sentence structure it got so complex.
I've put THOUSANDS of dollars of K2-type stuff through my body so I think if it was that toxic, there would have been a noticeable long-term dampening in my cognitive faculties.
I really like the flavor of your post. It's positive and encourages personal responsibility, which is how I'm going to manage my DXM addictive tendencies if I do find that it still can offer me benefit.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox] 1
#18835268 - 09/13/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Masked, think I can do my 3 months of DXM?
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I think I've committed to 3 months of no DXM, or at least 2.
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although don't lie if you don't think I can do it.
Fair enough. I think ANY human can do it. Throughout the century we used words for excessive use of substances, like habit, obsession, addiction, disease. In that order no less.
"Habit. Obsession. Addiction. These words are signposts along a path of ever-decreasing free will. Denial of the power of free will is implicit in the notion of addiction, and in our culture, addictions are viewed seriously--especially exotic or unfamiliar addictions. In the nineteenth century the opium addict was the "opium fiend," a description that harkened back to the idea of a demonic possession by a controlling force from without. In the twentieth century, the addict as a person possessed has been replaced with the notion of addiction as disease. And, with the notion of addiction as disease, the role of free will is finally reduced to the vanishing point. After all, we are not responsible for the diseases we may inherit or develop." - Terrence Mckenna
I strongly believe in some of these ideas. So yes, I do believe you, or any person CAN.
However, if my cheeky beginning to this ramble didn't clue you in , I do not believe you WILL

I wish you the best of luck either way though
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835269 - 09/13/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you're less a document for the properties of a addiction and more a doctrine for being a ...
ok, i was going to be an asshole here. but i thought, "you know what. it's time for me not to be an asshole here"
then a failed at that, and called you a pre-pubescent, scholar of scripts. BUT... BUT but then i... saw the folly of my ways, and took back what i said... and i aim to get a vote of confidence from you... which i will aim to do by saying... you're... just... passing through. what more can i say? you're doing everything right for your time and place. young, in school (the horrid life) potentially abusing drugs from one point to the next... betlittling every authority from doctor to teacher to McDonalds manager... confused about his place in life, and why his potential is being squandered.
there is nothing really much fucking to it.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835291 - 09/13/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, yea, cannabinoids (the panic inducing ones) have a very psychedelic headspace.
&GABA blocks NMDA antagonism and alcohol dampens all dissociative experiences. It makes them much more anaestethic.
And again, Store bought blends are shit. You don't know the dosage and they are often laid unevenly (creating hotspots). A gram of a potent cannabinoid can make a few ounces of blend potent enough to get high with a single ~100mg toke. You also get consistent effects from the same cannabinoids, obviously.. some aren't very panicky at all.
And they are much cheaper than weed unless you're paying ~125$ an ounce for very high grade (imo).
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#18835293 - 09/13/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP should have all his threads redirected to a user created forum designed exclusively to host your threads.
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st1llnox
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: Masked]
#18835308 - 09/13/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: OP should have all his threads redirected to a user created forum designed exclusively to host your threads.
What a jerk, bro...
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pcplease said: Well, yea, cannabinoids (the panic inducing ones) have a very psychedelic headspace.
&GABA blocks NMDA antagonism and alcohol dampens all dissociative experiences. It makes them much more anaestethic.
And again, Store bought blends are shit. You don't know the dosage and they are often laid unevenly (creating hotspots). A gram of a potent cannabinoid can make a few ounces of blend potent enough to get high with a single ~100mg toke. You also get consistent effects from the same cannabinoids, obviously.. some aren't very panicky at all.
And they are much cheaper than weed unless you're paying ~125$ an ounce for very high grade (imo).
This is good information, especially about GABA necessarily affecting NMDA antagonism... do you have a source for further reading on this?
And also, good to know on spice and it makes sense, but again: the responsible thing for me to do for myself and others is to NOT TOUCH SPICe. I crashed my car on that shit, have gotten psychotic... it's not for me.
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Masked, think I can do my 3 months of DXM?
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I think I've committed to 3 months of no DXM, or at least 2.
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although don't lie if you don't think I can do it.
Fair enough. I think ANY human can do it. Throughout the century we used words for excessive use of substances, like habit, obsession, addiction, disease. In that order no less.
"Habit. Obsession. Addiction. These words are signposts along a path of ever-decreasing free will. Denial of the power of free will is implicit in the notion of addiction, and in our culture, addictions are viewed seriously--especially exotic or unfamiliar addictions. In the nineteenth century the opium addict was the "opium fiend," a description that harkened back to the idea of a demonic possession by a controlling force from without. In the twentieth century, the addict as a person possessed has been replaced with the notion of addiction as disease. And, with the notion of addiction as disease, the role of free will is finally reduced to the vanishing point. After all, we are not responsible for the diseases we may inherit or develop." - Terrence Mckenna
I strongly believe in some of these ideas. So yes, I do believe you, or any person CAN.
However, if my cheeky beginning to this ramble didn't clue you in , I do not believe you WILL

I wish you the best of luck either way though 
Good point on the 2 month thing. I'll suck it up and definitely do 3. Normally I'd agree with you, but the fact that DXM seems to be a ghost town regarding the psychedelic aspects I liked so much makes it so I've lost interest in it to such an extent that it's not going to take much in the way of avoidance on my part to stay off the stuff for 3 months. Just saying.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835312 - 09/13/13 01:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: OP should have all his threads redirected to a user created forum designed exclusively to host your threads.
What a jerk, bro...
Wat? Dude I'm saying you deserve a forum especially for you, isn't that what you're ranting for anyways?
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835316 - 09/13/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just saying.
doesn't = doing
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: mellowparty]
#18835322 - 09/13/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: OP should have all his threads redirected to a user created forum designed exclusively to host your threads.
What a jerk, bro...
Wat? Dude I'm saying you deserve a forum especially for you, isn't that what you're ranting for anyways?
I actually agree with this. You're not trying to stop, you're looking for attention. I was heavily addicted to DXM for over 4 or so years; posting in here is doing nothing but giving you the attention you're seeking. You aren't trying to quit, you're looking for sympathy. You seem like a good guy, but honestly, just drop it or don't. Posting here is doing nothing but prolonging the issue you're supposedly trying to avoid.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835326 - 09/13/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's "not for you" because you overinduldge in improper situations.. I've seen people pass out and go into a tetany seizure (lock-jaw for the entire body) simply from cashing out a ~.3 bowl in a 2 foot nice (2 tree) bong. Several times from taking a giant dab after a 2 week break. Its overindulging.
And I've seen people pass out out of nowhere an hour or two after smoking just weed.
And more-so on spice.
As for furthur reading, google it or use the search engine
And you do post way too many threads on dxm. Mention it in the WCA thread in ODD where people treat you like the drug user that you are, if you feel necessary, or even in the EMC/LNC chatter thread here. Or, your one DXM megadiary.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: pcplease]
#18835331 - 09/13/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just saying.
doesn't = doing
You'll see. 3 months from today will likely be my last DXM thread... 
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mellowparty said: OP should have all his threads redirected to a user created forum designed exclusively to host your threads.
What a jerk, bro...
Wat? Dude I'm saying you deserve a forum especially for you, isn't that what you're ranting for anyways?
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mellowparty said: OP should have all his threads redirected to a user created forum designed exclusively to host your threads.
What a jerk, bro...
Wat? Dude I'm saying you deserve a forum especially for you, isn't that what you're ranting for anyways?
I actually agree with this. You're not trying to stop, you're looking for attention. I was heavily addicted to DXM for over 4 or so years; posting in here is doing nothing but giving you the attention you're seeking. You aren't trying to quit, you're looking for sympathy. You seem like a good guy, but honestly, just drop it or don't. Posting here is doing nothing but prolonging the issue you're supposedly trying to avoid.
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pcplease said: where people treat you like the drug user that you are
WTF, really? And spice isn't for me... deal with it.
If that snipped I quoted is 10% saying what I think it is, I'm having trouble finding a reason not to make you one of my very few ignores.
Yes I use drugs. It's a motherfucking drug forum...
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835353 - 09/13/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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not sub-consciously seeking attention, no?
then stop posting. you've got a lot on your plate, so to speak; and you ARE stating from time to time, that posting on the shroomery is like a distraction for you. i can find the post, if you want...
just saying... maybe he's got a point. nothing personal. I've just seen it before. i bet, so has he.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835357 - 09/13/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most of my posts are in the WCA thread  Nothing wrong with using drugs; my point being its not something to "write home about" and make a new topic
Sticking to your one thread is probably best IMO. You can monitor your progress. Yes, drugs/psychedelics (DXM included) definitely CAN help open your mind tod some crazy occurrences. Psychological/theoretical and even physical: you beating your high score on tetris being one example and Dock Ellis pitching a no-hitter on LSD. Could either of you repeat it?? Probably not when put on the spot. Or relying on it for positive effects 100% of the time.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: pcplease]
#18835377 - 09/13/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you beating your high score on tetris being one example and Dock Ellis pitching a no-hitter on LSD. Could either of you repeat it?? Probably not when put on the spot. Or relying on it for positive effects 100% of the time.
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: pcplease]
#18835379 - 09/13/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: not sub-consciously seeking attention, no?
then stop posting. you've got a lot on your plate, so to speak; and you ARE stating from time to time, that posting on the shroomery is like a distraction for you. i can find the post, if you want...
just saying... maybe he's got a point. nothing personal. I've just seen it before. i bet, so has he.
I'll scale that back... this thread in particular, it's hard to see how it is anything beyond just "let's talk about what *I* am doing tonight," so I will keep an open mind. This was productive!
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pcplease said: Most of my posts are in the WCA thread  Nothing wrong with using drugs; my point being its not something to "write home about" and make a new topic
Sticking to your one thread is probably best IMO. You can monitor your progress. Yes, drugs/psychedelics (DXM included) definitely CAN help open your mind tod some crazy occurrences. Psychological/theoretical and even physical: you beating your high score on tetris being one example and Dock Ellis pitching a no-hitter on LSD. Could either of you repeat it?? Probably not when put on the spot. Or relying on it for positive effects 100% of the time.
As the Greeks would say: You speak well.
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IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here
  
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835388 - 09/13/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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no, no, the what am I doing tonight, is the same BS that people do to get attention. it's the same fucking thing dude. 
either you have some list of awesome shit that you ascribe to have being done by you, or you have dick all. in the case of the latter, you should try posting about some other shit, like what someone else is doing tonight, and just leaving the new DXM thread off the boards. trust me. you aren't the first person to have done this. in my own fucked up way... I am trying to free you from bondage. no one wants to read this shit, except for the same fucked up individuals who'll do this shit all the live long day until they die or melt so hard that their bridge between the shroomery and the internet breaks down. since you seem to take things so personally; again, i'll have to opt for the latter happening.
and it's really not anything personal. I really don't know how to say this without becoming some pretentious jerk wad. but... I feel the same way about myself, and a lot of people. I really like people here who show me what my ideals and personality can become... not people who are just like me. no, that'd just piss me off... and they do. 
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: akira_akuma]
#18835391 - 09/13/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats all I'm trying to say.
All his posts seem to be too "Life or Death" If you know what I mean?? Like its either fantastic, or terrible if he feels he enjoys and wants to use it frequently. I dont think using DXM once a week would be harmful in the slightest. I strongly recommend getting pure HBr for many reasons. Its much more thought-provoking and likely what you want by my guess.
Or smoking spice if you are dosing appropriately which cannot be done with store bought blends They're fun. Stronger than weed but this is not the thread.
I'm not gonna "deal with" the fact that anyone can use any drug if they are in control of his/her self (mainly the psyche). Its a strong conviction of mine. And IMO/IME it helps to overcome "addiction"
But I'm out Night all

Thanks for the comp St1l
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#18835406 - 09/13/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im sorry stillnox, but saying your gonna quit something like DXM (which is already very misunderstood and underrated) because you have an addiction to it
...and then posting a thread about relapsing on it (im sorry thats what it is ) is gonna give DXM and its users a much worse reputation
get it together man
 ...DXM is a powerful drug, stop fucking abusing it
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Re: Booooom, Bitch! DXM TONIGHT!!! [Re: SeattleBlue]
#18835420 - 09/13/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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also, shrooms. how an educated, well off (working at mick Ds ) kinda person, can't find mushrooms, is beyond me.
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