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make your own bulk steamer from a pc?
    #18833830 - 09/12/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I'm thinking of making a bulk steam pasteurizer using one of my pc's. (pc full of water, top on, weight removed, hose attached to the steam nipple) I know frank had made one a while back using a Wagner steamer and am curious as to why he abandoned it.

The problem I will run into is the whole thing will obviously run too hot. Any ideas on getting temps in the right range while not spending a butt load of cash?

Could you essentially just find the right setting on the stove?

Link to where RR first suggested it. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6696490#6696490


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: maddchef]
    #18833858 - 09/12/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Posting here to bookmark for my curiosity. I would like an easier way to pasteurize


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18833977 - 09/12/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There are multiple builds using wallpaper steamers but I can't find where someone actually made a steamer from a pc. It'd be easy enough to do, it'd just be controlling the temp that would pose the problem.

I'm not real sure even after reading through the other threads how they maintain correct temps from the 212f steamer.

As far as I can gather the idea is as the steam travels to the tub it loses heat. But that seems to be totally full of guesswork.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18833988 - 09/12/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5316983#5316983

This is what I have used in the past. Works well.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: MHbound]
    #18834030 - 09/12/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's essentially the bucket tek used for coir is it not?


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: maddchef]
    #18834071 - 09/12/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea but I just can't imagine why you would want to use a PC since there are easy ways to do it.

Anyway, if you got a thermometer and played with it maybe with different weighted rockers leaving the top cracked, using different tops, just playing with different ways to control the temp you could probably find the right temp but it seems a lot of work when there are easy enough ways already was the reason I posted that.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: MHbound]
    #18834086 - 09/12/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If only you could use the PC to bring steam to a monotub with the substrate already in it. Pasteurize in there and let it cool then add the spawn and mix it up.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: MHbound]
    #18834115 - 09/12/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well everyone bashes the bucket tek so I was looking at alternatives. And the pc idea is easy enough. A separate tub with a rack in it, and a hose clamped on your steam vent of your pc leading to it.

Just as I said, temp control would be an issue. I think the reason the bucket tek doesn't work for many is the fact that most use coir bricks and it takes a while for them to expand and hydrate. So maybe just bring to field capacity, then go this route, then strain back to field capacity.

Seems feasible in my line of thought and pretty much just as easy.


And steaming a filled monotub would be rough getting it to heat evenly and then getting it back down to field capacity.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: maddchef]
    #18834145 - 09/12/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The Styrofoam cooler helps insulate it and keep it heated long enough to allow for this.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: MHbound]
    #18834165 - 09/12/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah a few years back RR suggested to me to pour water in a cooler. I reckon I will just go the route of hydration, pillowcase, cooler, then wring to capacity.

I wonder if doing coir in this way might benefit from some diluted coffee for the added N? Not grounds, just liquid.

My only concern with this method is the leaching off of bytes.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: maddchef]
    #18834246 - 09/12/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't have any answers for that..Off the top of my head I want to say no simply because from what I know you don't want any nutrients in it because it promotes contams. Don't quote me on that though.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: MHbound]
    #18834257 - 09/12/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well it already has nutes in the coir. And if its proper pasteurization, it shouldn't make too much of a difference what you add to it.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: maddchef]
    #18834275 - 09/12/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well that's true but keeping it to a minimum is what I should have said. But you are right after your pasteurization it shouldn't matter.

If you get the chance post back with some results whenever you try it. :thumbup:


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: MHbound]
    #18850401 - 09/16/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can check my profile for my bulk pasteurization box, all u need is a; PC,3/8"rubber brake line,stovetop and a stand up freezer. With this setup, Ive pasteurized over 200 lbs in one run,hope this helps...


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: dutchfunkle]
    #18851227 - 09/16/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That is awesome. Good to know brake line is usable. Kudos good sir.


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Re: make your own bulk steamer from a pc? [Re: maddchef]
    #18851894 - 09/16/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I built a bulk pastuerizung unit with a Wagner steamer and put a temp controller on it too if u wanna check it out its somewhere in this old log I think there is a link for the temp controller and it's fairly simple to wire.


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