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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Stromrider]
    #18836734 - 09/13/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:werd:  I don't know how many of us have tried to explain this to him. Must have a thick skull or something :shrug:




I don't get it. Here we are, offering advice from the fucking forefront of modern cubensis cultivation.

And this guy is reading to us snippets from google searches and telling us we don't know what we're talking about :facepalm:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18836736 - 09/13/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lmafo:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18836745 - 09/13/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This is what shrooms like in brf, Carbohydrates, Riboflavin, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Magnesium, Phosphorus, Sodium, Zinc, Copper, Selenium. So what dosen't make sense about increasing these nutrients?





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Highly nutritious substrate will just make everything more likely to contam as well as slowing your colonization and fruiting times significantly.




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Shahal Rainrix said:I could probably use capsule supplements and virm and it'd work out.




You mean like crushing up some Flintstones Chewables?


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Shahal Rainrix said:
Note: that virm adds no nutrients




The way fungi use materials as nutrients is different than than the way plants and animals do. You need to research the value of vermiculite to fungi and stop talking shit


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Stromrider]
    #18836753 - 09/13/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I smell the next anne h


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18836765 - 09/13/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

At least Anne has actually grown a mushroom before


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Stromrider]
    #18836768 - 09/13/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psillyshroomer said:
a mushroom



:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: PussyFart]
    #18836772 - 09/13/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
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a mushroom



:nodofunderstanding:




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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Stromrider]
    #18836773 - 09/13/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psillyshroomer said:
A mushroom




:smilingpuppy:

Don't say his name too many times, he'll come by and start word-barfing all over this thread.

edit: beat me to it :wink:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18836777 - 09/13/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey without Anne who would we rip on for kicks? Oh wait we got shah now nevermind :rofl:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Stromrider]
    #18836781 - 09/13/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That was mean I am sorry


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Stromrider]
    #18836785 - 09/13/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's ok. I was thinking it.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18836797 - 09/13/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quality responses, to be sure :lmafo:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Stromrider]
    #18836799 - 09/13/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well I am sorry I don't have a masters in mycology. Any I'm sorry that I rather try something new before giving up. Nothing ventured is nothing gained.

And I have grown mushrooms before, but not shrooms.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18836802 - 09/13/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Then what is with the attitude man?

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I don't get it. Here we are, offering advice from the fucking forefront of modern cubensis cultivation.

And this guy is reading to us snippets from google searches and telling us we don't know what we're talking about :facepalm:




No one here has said they have a masters in mycology, I actually said that we are a collective of hobby cultivators. You have been the condescending one in your threads.

We are trying to help. You seem to have something to say back every time.

We don't want to argue with you. We are speaking from experience, not from a google search.

If you want to get all crazy with your substrate, go for it.

You've gotten our opinion though.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18836814 - 09/13/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Any I'm sorry that I rather try something new before giving up.




If you want to try something new, try following the advice of others


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18836835 - 09/13/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The one thing these folks offer to you is experience, and they tried to share the benefits of their work with you. Seems like a good place to start. Take a look at some of Frank's and other folks grows. Maybe that could be your baseline, if you can get to that level of success. Uh, 8 oz dry from a $3 brick of coir and couple quarts of verm? Don't think it gets much better, try it.

Then maybe you move up from there.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: budkatz]
    #18836862 - 09/13/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The one thing these folks offer to you is experience, and they tried to share the benefits of their work with you. Seems like a good place to start. Take a look at some of Frank's and other folks grows. Maybe that could be your baseline, if you can get to that level of success. Uh, 8 oz dry from a $3 brick of coir and couple quarts of verm? Don't think it gets much better, try it.

Then maybe you move up from there.




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Re: Substrate Question [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18836893 - 09/13/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

But hasn't most of the advice been stick with what works? Or to not bother with it at all? That's how I see it. It doesn't matter if it wasn't intended, because that is how I am taking it.

Experience is fine, but I haven't heard anyone's experience with what I'm doing. So if you are offering experience in growing and not creating new substrate. I have looked into what makes the substrate you all use so great and compared it to the nutrients that is in the fungi already. It all makes sense to me. But I admit that I am bad at explaining.

So, everyone, I am sorry. You don't have to forgive me. My meds make me unbalanced. I am on 9 uppers and 4 downers at all times, so I am unbalanced. Some days are better then others for me. If I get set off, I go.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18836906 - 09/13/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm ditching everything I have learnt on here. I've thrown away all my equip, cakes, mono etc. I've already un-bookmarked Franks teks.

I wait in in eager anticipation of shal's revolutionary cheese-tek :uhoh:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18836939 - 09/13/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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But hasn't most of the advice been stick with what works? Or to not bother with it at all? That's how I see it. It doesn't matter if it wasn't intended, because that is how I am taking it.

Experience is fine, but I haven't heard anyone's experience with what I'm doing. So if you are offering experience in growing and not creating new substrate. I have looked into what makes the substrate you all use so great and compared it to the nutrients that is in the fungi already. It all makes sense to me. But I admit that I am bad at explaining.

So, everyone, I am sorry. You don't have to forgive me. My meds make me unbalanced. I am on 9 uppers and 4 downers at all times, so I am unbalanced. Some days are better then others for me. If I get set off, I go.




It's ok man.

We haven't told you our experience with what you are doing because we have no experience with using ingredients such as the ones you listed here.

Having never grown a cube before, you should probably get your feet wet before you get all crazy.

Not only that but if you have successfully grown gourmets or medicinals, you should be able to grasp that simpler is better sometimes.

Extremely nutritious substrate is not used very often because it causes more problems than solutions.

It does not directly relate to your yield in the way you think.

We're not discouraging you from trying, we are giving you an honest opinion that we don't think it will work.  You can have great success without trying to reinvent the wheel on your first magic mushroom grow.

We don't want you to grow a bunch of mold :thumbup:


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