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abltsandwich
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Don't you usually post RR quotes all the time? As I recall he advocates consolidation for a week or more.
Can you elaborate?
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HypnotoadCroaked
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abltsandwich said: Don't you usually post RR quotes all the time? As I recall he advocates consolidation for a week or more.
Can you elaborate?
Bulk monotubs do not need a "consolidation" period. Period. Fruit at 100% colonization. BRF cakes benefit from consolidation. Hope If you need more elaboration, there are plenty of respected cultivators, Nothahacker420 included who advise and advocate exactly as I described. This has been brought up a number of times. Coir/verm/hpoo etc are not a solid mass of nutrition like brown rice flower.
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PussyFart
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abltsandwich said: Don't you usually post RR quotes all the time? As I recall he advocates consolidation for a week or more.
Can you elaborate?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18194095#18194095
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abltsandwich
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That quote says it's always a good idea to consolidate and to let it consolidate a few days and fruit for bulk. That's different than what you said, which is to fruit immediately at 100%. I'm just wondering why. It's been several years since I've even attempted a grow and when I was cultivating consolidation was always recommended for bulk. Searches turn up many different things. I see TCs mentioning to consolidate, and others saying not. Maybe my search syntax is wrong.
Edited by abltsandwich (09/12/13 03:11 PM)
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PussyFart
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There are a lot of TCs that fruit right at 100% without issue, and think it helps the first flush in yield...there are also a good number who believe that consolidating for a few days is the only way, and helps the first flush just the same....either way it all works, but you can fruit at 100% without issue, I can attest to this personally.
I agree, that was probably not the best quote i could have found, lol.....
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Stromrider
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Like is said before you're slipping hacker
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abltsandwich
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I really just want to further my knowledge of the how and why of things on this. The explanation of mycelia needing to "digest" what they've colonized, and it taking many days of consolidation for this to happen, makes sense to me. So if that's not the case, what's going on? Sorry to derail the thread but I've been searching MushCult for the last 30 minutes and I can't find any info that's up-to-date.
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PussyFart
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The higher the amount of nutrients in a substrate, the more consolidation time is needed.
BRF cakes are almost on the border of being too nutritious....so a week of consolidation is recommended at the minimum.
Bulk substrates are way less nutritious, so they require very little if any consolidation time. The grains are way more nutritious than the substrate, hence why the mycelium rips through it so fast.....mycellium will colonize a less nutritious substrate faster than one with a lot of nutrients....it stretches out in search of more food.
Hope that helps a little.
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Edited by PussyFart (09/12/13 04:04 PM)
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SpitballJedi
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Notahacker420 said: I agree, that was probably not the best quote i could have found, lol..... 
Really tho, it probably is the best one because it really does show how "unstrict a science" this is
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CitizenErased
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I know that I asked this briefly before, but wasn't really clear on the response. Should I expect a tub that has contaminated so early to bear any fruits at all?
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