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Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly
    #18832056 - 09/12/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dealers’ deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly
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New York club kids who use the party drug Molly because they think it’s pure ecstasy are often being peddled deadly “bath salts” by ruthless dealers, the DEA told The Post.

The dangerous narcotic — which causes a violent, meth-like high — has killed at least one reveler this year and is being eyed in the deaths of two partiers at the Electric Zoo festival on Randall’s Island two weeks ago.

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe ecstasy, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even ecstasy.”

Known to drug regulators as methylone — and exported in bulk from China — the salts caused the agonizing death of Matthew Rybarczyk, 20, of Staten Island, after a June 15 rave on Governors Island.

“There were bags and bags pumping things into him, and the blood was coming out of his mouth, his nose,” Peggy Rybarczyk remembered yesterday of watching her grandson die slowly in his hospital bed.

The two young people who died at the Electric Zoo music fest — recent Syracuse University grad Jeffrey Russ, 23, and University of New Hampshire student Olivia Rotondo, 20 — may have also ingested the salts, though toxicology results are pending, sources told The Post.

Two others who were stricken at the festival admitted to drug use — also believed to be a substance resembling bath salts, sources told The Post.

Bath salts, which can be swallowed, snorted, injected or dissolved in water, has a similarly euphoric effect as ecstasy — but can also cause psychotic symptoms like agitation, paranoia and hallucinations. The drug is federally banned from sale in stores but is widely available on the Internet.

It has yet to be declared a controlled substance under state law, which has greatly hampered prosecution efforts.

“We’re seeing a proliferation of it,” citywide Special Narcotics Prosecutor Bridget Brennan told The Post. “We urgently need a law that would allow us to prosecute the sale of this deadly substance.”

A bill criminalizing the drug has sat since June 19 in the state Senate majority office, awaiting forwarding to the desk of Gov. Cuomo, who has said he’ll sign it.

“I think it’s absolutely horrible,” Rybarczyk said. “These drugs are killing our children.”

Since the Electric Zoo overdoses, the NYPD has made club drugs a priority.

In a recent Harlem bust, cops seized 40 grams of ecstasy and four firearms — including a submachine gun.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Ythan]
    #18832184 - 09/12/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Ythan said:
Dealers’ deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly
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New York club kids who use the party drug Molly because they think it’s pure ecstasy are often being peddled deadly “bath salts” by ruthless dealers, the DEA told The Post.

The dangerous narcotic — which causes a violent, meth-like high — has killed at least one reveler this year and is being eyed in the deaths of two partiers at the Electric Zoo festival on Randall’s Island two weeks ago.

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe ecstasy, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even ecstasy.”

Known to drug regulators as methylone — and exported in bulk from China — the salts caused the agonizing death of Matthew Rybarczyk, 20, of Staten Island, after a June 15 rave on Governors Island.

“There were bags and bags pumping things into him, and the blood was coming out of his mouth, his nose,” Peggy Rybarczyk remembered yesterday of watching her grandson die slowly in his hospital bed.

The two young people who died at the Electric Zoo music fest — recent Syracuse University grad Jeffrey Russ, 23, and University of New Hampshire student Olivia Rotondo, 20 — may have also ingested the salts, though toxicology results are pending, sources told The Post.

Two others who were stricken at the festival admitted to drug use — also believed to be a substance resembling bath salts, sources told The Post.

Bath salts, which can be swallowed, snorted, injected or dissolved in water, has a similarly euphoric effect as ecstasy — but can also cause psychotic symptoms like agitation, paranoia and hallucinations. The drug is federally banned from sale in stores but is widely available on the Internet.

It has yet to be declared a controlled substance under state law, which has greatly hampered prosecution efforts.


“We’re seeing a proliferation of it,” citywide Special Narcotics Prosecutor Bridget Brennan told The Post. “We urgently need a law that would allow us to prosecute the sale of this deadly substance.”

A bill criminalizing the drug has sat since June 19 in the state Senate majority office, awaiting forwarding to the desk of Gov. Cuomo, who has said he’ll sign it.

“I think it’s absolutely horrible,” Rybarczyk said. “These drugs are killing our children.”

Since the Electric Zoo overdoses, the NYPD has made club drugs a priority.

In a recent Harlem bust, cops seized 40 grams of ecstasy and four firearms — including a submachine gun.




What?! It's already federally illegal. Also, methylone isn't bad, and I would not consider it a "bath salt".


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Ythan]
    #18832187 - 09/12/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe ecstasy, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even ecstasy.”





the title of the article gave me some hope that it might not just be 100% bullshit, but I should've known better.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #18832199 - 09/12/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sounds close enough to me, i think what they meant was

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe mdma, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even mdma.”


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight] * 2
    #18832203 - 09/12/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What I cant stand is that these articles are doing the same thing they are warning against. DONT DO MOLLY ITS NOT PURE, but then they talk about BATHSALTS as if its some compound. Lets throw words around like they mean something.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18832214 - 09/12/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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sounds close enough to me, i think what they meant was

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe mdma, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even mdma.”



Well, what I was getting at is that people may try to sell things as molly when it isn't, but it doesn't mean molly isn't molly.

it would be like people selling hamburgers as hotdogs and the news saying that hotdogs weren't really hotdogs anymore :lol:


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight]
    #18832247 - 09/12/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just as bathsalts doesnt mean its necessairly whatever the fuck bathsalts equates to. Only someone foolish would buy 'molly', idk bout you guys but I buy drugs, not a fairy tale, gimme some MDMA, or MDA.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: snoot]
    #18832388 - 09/12/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I found 8 caps of white powder on the ground at a music festival and threw them away in a portable toilet, my friends all got  pissed off at me because they wanted to take them instead. :lol:

I was like there's no way in hell I'm letting you take these, we didn't even have test kits with us.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: snoot]
    #18832390 - 09/12/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Didn't they sell these analogs as "Molly" way before it was bath salts? Maybe not before it was "plant food"? Of course the casting DEA gives this friendly warning *cough* scare tactic *cough*. Stupid DEA


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight]
    #18832774 - 09/12/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I found 8 caps of white powder on the ground at a music festival and threw them away in a portable toilet, my friends all got  pissed off at me because they wanted to take them instead. :lol:

I was like there's no way in hell I'm letting you take these, we didn't even have test kits with us.




you could have at least saved them and tested them later. i mean, people with real drugs lose shit too...


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight]
    #18832813 - 09/12/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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sounds close enough to me, i think what they meant was

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe mdma, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even mdma.”



Well, what I was getting at is that people may try to sell things as molly when it isn't, but it doesn't mean molly isn't molly.

it would be like people selling hamburgers as hotdogs and the news saying that hotdogs weren't really hotdogs anymore :lol:



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sounds close enough to me, i think what they meant was

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe mdma, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even mdma.”



Well, what I was getting at is that people may try to sell things as molly when it isn't, but it doesn't mean molly isn't molly.

it would be like people selling hamburgers as hotdogs and the news saying that hotdogs weren't really hotdogs anymore :lol:




Exactly. Saying "These ruthless evil dealers are pushing (slang term 1) as (slang term 2)" is just stupid. That's like saying, "These murderous potheads who sell your kids what they claim is pot is actually weed".


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Ythan]
    #18833287 - 09/12/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, they just caught onto this crap? Around here the pink rocks being called molly is methylone, as far as I know. They say its "M1" which I've never heard referenced before, but they sell it as "Molly", MDMA. Just gets you speeded out and up forever doses they're taking it in. They'll usually call them moonrocks, since its a pink crystally formation. I got to listen to a few people selling it as such laugh about these kids at Electric Zoo. Its a fucking shame, weed dealers, tell you theyre selling you weed, and you get weed. And you can't OD on weed. And alot of these RCs turn black on a test kit. People don't know what Molly on a test kit is supposed to look like. *SMFH*


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #18833310 - 09/12/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i think they are pushing for a blanket legislation that makes everything illegal...  any unknown substance used as an intoxicant is a "bath salt"

welcome to the police state... man.



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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: travelleler]
    #18833328 - 09/12/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I hate how every unknown substance is dubbed "bath salts"... it's even worse that the general public may actually idiotically believe these are the same bath salts that you use to scent your bath.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight]
    #18833413 - 09/12/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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sounds close enough to me, i think what they meant was

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe mdma, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even mdma.”



Well, what I was getting at is that people may try to sell things as molly when it isn't, but it doesn't mean molly isn't molly.

it would be like people selling hamburgers as hotdogs and the news saying that hotdogs weren't really hotdogs anymore :lol:



You do not see that they put "Molly" in quotes? They are not talking about Molly but rather "Molly" which is what those kids bought.
Like the waiter will bring you out a "hamburger", with a wink, which means he is really bringing you a hot-dog.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: pmoseman]
    #18833676 - 09/12/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Seems it's the same drug education we got in school.  It  only takes one drop off bullshit and every belief is thrown out the window.  Seems everyone needs some truthful books and a mass spec at home these days.........but the man would probably call that some sort of lab?


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Morel Guy]
    #18833692 - 09/12/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Seems it's the same drug education we got in school.  It  only takes one drop off bullshit and every belief is thrown out the window.  Seems everyone needs some truthful books and a mass spec at home these days.........but the man would probably call that some sort of lab?




http://www.advion.com/products/expression/high-performance-compact-mass-spectrometer/

BOOM!  What now?

owning a library and a few pieces of test equipment is hardly illegal.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: travelleler]
    #18833803 - 09/12/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How much does one of those cost?  Used ones are usually at least a couple thousand on ebay.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: pmoseman]
    #18834786 - 09/12/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol good point :grin:

they either have a very careful editor or they got lucky


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight]
    #18834820 - 09/12/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hahaha
Aww man.... "ingested the salts"  ha!
"Bath salts" uh....so...any one of 10,000 chems? ok

I get my "molly" as a big ass rock. Its awesome

Yeah its around but not because of some chinese import...
  Burn a little...the impurities smell like ROOTBEER. sass

Propaganda for deterrence


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18834835 - 09/12/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, Sass cooks reek of rootbeer once you get more than a few grams in one place.  this mdma is typically on a light brown shade.


However there is at least one other very common cook that results in white crystals that smell a bit like fish


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight]
    #18834927 - 09/12/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mine has a yellowish tinge and breaks into salt like crystals.
Whatever it is. its TOO GOOD ... Too good


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Synthe]
    #18836207 - 09/13/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NWlight said:
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hidenseek1 said:
sounds close enough to me, i think what they meant was

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe mdma, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even mdma.”



Well, what I was getting at is that people may try to sell things as molly when it isn't, but it doesn't mean molly isn't molly.

it would be like people selling hamburgers as hotdogs and the news saying that hotdogs weren't really hotdogs anymore :lol:



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NWlight said:
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hidenseek1 said:
sounds close enough to me, i think what they meant was

“Kids think ‘Molly’ is a pure, safe mdma, but it’s not,” said DEA Special Agent Erin Mulvey. “It’s not pure, it’s not safe and it’s not even mdma.”



Well, what I was getting at is that people may try to sell things as molly when it isn't, but it doesn't mean molly isn't molly.

it would be like people selling hamburgers as hotdogs and the news saying that hotdogs weren't really hotdogs anymore :lol:




Exactly. Saying "These ruthless evil dealers are pushing (slang term 1) as (slang term 2)" is just stupid. That's like saying, "These murderous potheads who sell your kids what they claim is pot is actually weed".




its not at all like saying that.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: snoot] * 1
    #18838433 - 09/13/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone on the street knows molly is mdma, but they also know people lie about what they sell.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #18838718 - 09/13/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh, they just caught onto this crap? Around here the pink rocks being called molly is ethylone, as far as I know. They say its "M1" which I've never heard referenced before, but they sell it as "Molly", MDMA. Just gets you speeded out and up forever doses they're taking it in. They'll usually call them moonrocks, since its a pink crystally formation. I got to listen to a few people selling it as such laugh about these kids at Electric Zoo. Its a fucking shame, weed dealers, tell you theyre selling you weed, and you get weed. And you can't OD on weed. And alot of these RCs turn black on a test kit. People don't know what Molly on a test kit is supposed to look like. *SMFH*




That pink "molly" is M1, or Methylone, not Ethylone. It all comes from the same vendor in China.


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Re: <nobr><a id="FALINK_2_0_1" class="FAtxtL" href="#">Dealers</a></nobr>' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: PsYcHoDoUgHbOy]
    #18839069 - 09/13/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh, they just caught onto this crap? Around here the pink rocks being called molly is ethylone, as far as I know. They say its "M1" which I've never heard referenced before, but they sell it as "Molly", MDMA. Just gets you speeded out and up forever doses they're taking it in. They'll usually call them moonrocks, since its a pink crystally formation. I got to listen to a few people selling it as such laugh about these kids at Electric Zoo. Its a fucking shame, weed dealers, tell you theyre selling you weed, and you get weed. And you can't OD on weed. And alot of these RCs turn black on a test kit. People don't know what Molly on a test kit is supposed to look like. *SMFH*




That pink "molly" is M1, or Methylone, not Ethylone. It all comes from the same vendor in China.



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Re: <nobr><a id="FALINK_2_0_1" class="FAtxtL" href="#">Dealers</a></nobr>' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #18839349 - 09/13/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh, they just caught onto this crap? Around here the pink rocks being called molly is ethylone, as far as I know. They say its "M1" which I've never heard referenced before, but they sell it as "Molly", MDMA. Just gets you speeded out and up forever doses they're taking it in. They'll usually call them moonrocks, since its a pink crystally formation. I got to listen to a few people selling it as such laugh about these kids at Electric Zoo. Its a fucking shame, weed dealers, tell you theyre selling you weed, and you get weed. And you can't OD on weed. And alot of these RCs turn black on a test kit. People don't know what Molly on a test kit is supposed to look like. *SMFH*




That pink "molly" is M1, or Methylone, not Ethylone. It all comes from the same vendor in China.



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Re: <nobr><a id="FALINK_2_0_1" class="FAtxtL" href="#">Dealers</a></nobr>' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: NWlight]
    #18839614 - 09/14/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yea people have been getting riped off on that bull shit for years now. it seems like as soon as you started hearing the rappers rap about taking it everything went to shit lol. best advice ever don't trust anyone and allways test your shit.


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Re: Dealers' deadly trick: selling bath salts as Molly [Re: 2bakednate]
    #18840810 - 09/14/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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2bakednate said:
Anyone on the street knows molly is mdma, but they also know people lie about what they sell.





Molly used to be MDMA, comparing pot to sketchy white powders is just silly. :facepalm: This is why I ask people to sell me MDMA not some fairy tale. 


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Edited by snoot (09/14/13 11:38 AM)


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