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my mates hate me using opiates
#18831836 - 09/12/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have to use opiates because my migraines get so bad that i cannot even function so i have lots of homemade opium derivatives but my mate found out and she hates it what do i tell her or do i just stop talking about drugs to my mates where she can here it from them???
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18831846 - 09/12/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you tried using mushrooms to help your migraines?
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: thedream]
#18831850 - 09/12/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah man they help i microdosed though because i didnt want to trip my fucking balls off and it stopped my migraines also but something about the opiate relief makes it so much better mainly because i think i know i wont trip. but my mates hate me using all drugs that the problem.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18831882 - 09/12/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just make sure you are very careful...how often do you dose/ get migraines? Do you feel as though you NEED the opiates? Try explaining to your mates your condition and that nothing else helps.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: ChinChiller]
#18831890 - 09/12/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I grow my own poppys and only dose when my migraines get so chronic that i physically NEED them like maybe once a month will i actually use the opiates and no she hates all drug use no matter what sort it is. I wont be able to ever make her change but i want advice as to keep it low profile and hopefully she'll think i stopped using drugs.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18831897 - 09/12/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stop talking about it. Not everyone talks about their morning medicine routine; it is a ho-hum sort of deal; and acting in this way about them may help legitimize their use in her eyes.
You may look into LSA; I hear it works great for cluster headaches and also you wouldn't have to worry about tripping balls (too much).
I would try a rotation of LSA, Opiates, and Mushroom microdoses to prevent tolerance to any one remedy.
Also you may want to look into NMDA antagonists so you can prevent opiate tolerance (ie: DXM; possibly Cat's Claw) and get good relief without having to up the dosage.
Oh once a month isn't much at all; you are being very responsible and now it is a matter of keeping quiet about it in respect to your mates phobia.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: flickedbic]
#18831909 - 09/12/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I figured i just needed to keep quite about it from now on but she made a tweet about me attention seeking the other day which pissed me off because im not attention seeking i just wanted her to know but now ill just never speak of it again.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: flickedbic]
#18831917 - 09/12/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you telling me if I chug some fucking robotussin my opiate tolerance will go down?
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18831928 - 09/12/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hate opiate users too. Not because their bad people but simply because opiates is an incredibly bad decision they willingly made. Once they stop using opiates, I like them again because they aren't hooked anymore.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Patlal]
#18831933 - 09/12/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: I hate opiate users too. Not because their bad people but simply because opiates is an incredibly bad decision they willingly made. Once they stop using opiates, I like them again because they aren't hooked anymore.
Opiate users aren't too bad unless they can't afford their habit. Then they will steal the shoes off your feet, the difference between a user and a junkie. IMO.
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Im sorry i grow my own pods and dry them and when i need to use them i make a tea. It lastes for about 4 hours and then i subsides (for me) because again i microdose the pods maybe 5-7 per tea brew and that stops the migraines. Its like my medication. It will never become a habit EVER i will not let that happen. and i only use when i NEED the pain relief not because i want to. i actually hate the high after its happened.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18831949 - 09/12/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So what, she doesn't understand pain relief?
Or is she just ignorant about all drug use?
Either way, I would never stay with someone ignorant about drugs who wanted me to cease my usage.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18831958 - 09/12/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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nah she just blanks me when i ever i tell someone ive used drugs in the past couple of days. I think its she doesnt understand why o use drugs i also use psychedelics to help with my depression problems. But she still doesnt accept that. I think she hates all drugs in general except booze which i hate now after so many times of me being drunk and disorderly i now hate the booze high.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18831982 - 09/12/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: Its like my medication. It will never become a habit EVER i will not let that happen. and i only use when i NEED the pain relief not because i want to. i actually hate the high after its happened.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18831991 - 09/12/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: Its like my medication. It will never become a habit EVER i will not let that happen. and i only use when i NEED the pain relief not because i want to. i actually hate the high after its happened.

you saying its not possible?
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832011 - 09/12/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The day you think something is NEVER capable of happening is the day soon find out it can. Although, its still good to think I suppose
Goodluck with the strong willpower! Shorty
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832030 - 09/12/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: Its like my medication. It will never become a habit EVER i will not let that happen. and i only use when i NEED the pain relief not because i want to. i actually hate the high after its happened.

you saying its not possible?
im sorry, ive just heard these words so many times before. be careful
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18832046 - 09/12/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: Its like my medication. It will never become a habit EVER i will not let that happen. and i only use when i NEED the pain relief not because i want to. i actually hate the high after its happened.

you saying its not possible?
im sorry, ive just heard these words so many times before. be careful
Has a point. ^^
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i know he has a point and opiates are sooooo addictive i need to be careful but its the only way i can deal with my migraines other than growing shrooms which is more complicated than poppys (but i will do one day) and also im only using once a month minimun mainly becuasei only get migraines this bad once a month.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18832105 - 09/12/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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And it pairs nicely, also. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dxm+opiate+tolerance
I like using a low dose of Polisterix with my Kratm.
OP: Don't use multiple days in a row, ever. Leave a few days in between at least and alternating medicines (mush, LSA) might also be good if it ever got down to the wire.
The OP is a once/month medicinal user, who respects the danger of addiction. There is a reason these plants are here with us. Co-evolution breeds truth and that applies here. It's a remedy.
For anyone to say they hate all opiate users: Quote:
Endorphins ("endogenous morphine") are endogenous opioid peptides that function as neurotransmitters. They are produced by the pituitary(...)
-en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EndorphinsQuote:
naturally occurring peptides, e.g. enkephalins, that exert opiate-like effects by interacting with opiate receptors of cell membranes.
-http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/endogenous+opioid
Maybe try removing your pituitary?
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: EdibleStereos] 1
#18832110 - 09/12/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah just keep it to a minimum with the drug talk. She seems like the type that just doesn't get it and doesn't want to?
People using plants as medicine doesn't make sense to some people who think you need to go to the doctor or drug store to get their medicatioins
Anyhow just be easy with those pods, there is a fine line between medication and addiction that gets crossed all to easily in the name of medication.
Any idea on what could be potentially causing the migraines? Perhaps unhealthy lifestyle choices like poor diet, lack of exercise, SMOKING cigarettes, or lack of sleep are a few examples of causes.
In any event set a side a day where you have nothing to do and take a solid 2-3g of mushrooms and after that you may only need a 0.5-1g maintenace dose every month or two which should illicit very minimal psychoactive effects and stave off any future migraine attacks.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: thedream]
#18832125 - 09/12/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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if i had a legitimate medical concern that required medication, & my "mate" had a problem with me using said medication to LEGITIMATELY treat my condition, i would set her ass on the curb so fast it would make her head spin...
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832131 - 09/12/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does your mate use tobacco or alcohol? Just curious...
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: vinsue]
#18832210 - 09/12/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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she drinks booze and doesnt smoke at all.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832217 - 09/12/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: she hates all drug use no matter what sort it is
Disgusting, what are you doing with someone so ignorant? I'd drop the square
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Repertoire89]
#18832221 - 09/12/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: she hates all drug use no matter what sort it is
Disgusting, what are you doing with someone so ignorant? I'd drop the square
Because without her i might of killed myself at least twice i just hate how she can be 2 faced when it comes to my meds
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832228 - 09/12/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: she drinks booze and doesnt smoke at all.
Well, not for nothing, but booze is a pretty fucked up drug. Mate needs to realize this.
If I were you, I'd just keep my business to my self, and don't get the 'died'. ... . . .
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832232 - 09/12/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because without her i might of killed myself at least twice i just hate how she can be 2 faced when it comes to my meds
Sorry to hear that, it doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me though. Someone you rely on so much who tries to control you.
Some quick questions if you don't mind What is your diet and exercise routine like? How much sunlight do you get? How many friends do you have? How long have your headaches been recurring? How old are you? How long have you been depressed? Have you seen a doctor or therapist?
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832254 - 09/12/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Idk man, if you're true friends, she should accept you as you are.
It's not fair for either one of you like this, you keep using your meds without telling her(=lying), and she 's being judgemental and not even trying to understand(=not being a true friend)
I've been down that road dude, nothing good came out of it
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Repertoire89]
#18832257 - 09/12/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because without her i might of killed myself at least twice i just hate how she can be 2 faced when it comes to my meds
Sorry to hear that, it doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me though. Someone you rely on so much who tries to control you.
Some quick questions if you don't mind What is your diet and exercise routine like? How much sunlight do you get? How many friends do you have? How long have your headaches been recurring? How old are you? How long have you been depressed? Have you seen a doctor or therapist?
I mainly eat healthy organic meals like tonight im having salmon with potatoes and salad. I eat mainly meat based meals really but with carbs and vegetables to go with it.
I get a lot of sunlight because i go to College uk (like the last 2 years of high school for america)
I have a close group of about 5 close friends and i get on with most other people
Headaches for about 3 years getting worse as the years go on.
Im 18
About 5 years on and off (i mean its not nearly as bas as it used to be but still bad)
I did see a therapist but she stopped it after she figured i was stable enough again which i feel like i am as well.
Im much happier these days but have had a dark past.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832265 - 09/12/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because without her i might of killed myself at least twice i just hate how she can be 2 faced when it comes to my meds
Sorry to hear that, it doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me though. Someone you rely on so much who tries to control you.
Some quick questions if you don't mind What is your diet and exercise routine like? How much sunlight do you get? How many friends do you have? How long have your headaches been recurring? How old are you? How long have you been depressed? Have you seen a doctor or therapist?
I mainly eat healthy organic meals like tonight im having salmon with potatoes and salad. I eat mainly meat based meals really but with carbs and vegetables to go with it.
I get a lot of sunlight because i go to College uk (like the last 2 years of high school for america)
I have a close group of about 5 close friends and i get on with most other people
Headaches for about 3 years getting worse as the years go on.
Im 18
About 5 years on and off (i mean its not nearly as bas as it used to be but still bad)
I did see a therapist but she stopped it after she figured i was stable enough again which i feel like i am as well.
Im much happier these days but have had a dark past.
Ever try an elimination diet? It tries to pinpoint if there is a dietary source for common ailments.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832269 - 09/12/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I drink tea and coffee a lot it could be the caffeine but its never after i have a massive coffee it happens maybe 5 hours after i drink the tea or coffee.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832296 - 09/12/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just had a big argument with my partner. Who told me never to use cannabis again. Said it was worse than tobacco. Said if I eat it once a month its really bad for me. Said im stupid if I think otherwise. Refused to tell me why it was bad and then said alcohol was ok. Refused to talk about it or accept my propositions for stability. I have never asked anything of her. Time for her to go because although weed is just weed....I don't need to waste my time with someone so closed and angry. Offer your friend the chance to legitimately discuss her views and back them up. Although she will probably get all defensive and insult you l, tell you you're stupid and have problems. ......damn
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Fire is Born]
#18832327 - 09/12/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tell her you have crippling migraines and need relief from time to time. I doubt she wants u to suffer
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Fire is Born]
#18832349 - 09/12/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fire is Born said: I just had a big argument with my partner. Who told me never to use cannabis again. Said it was worse than tobacco. Said if I eat it once a month its really bad for me. Said im stupid if I think otherwise. Refused to tell me why it was bad and then said alcohol was ok. Refused to talk about it or accept my propositions for stability. I have never asked anything of her. Time for her to go because although weed is just weed....I don't need to waste my time with someone so closed and angry. Offer your friend the chance to legitimately discuss her views and back them up. Although she will probably get all defensive and insult you l, tell you you're stupid and have problems. ......damn
Already happened mate
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832362 - 09/12/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
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Im much happier these days but have had a dark past.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#18832391 - 09/12/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im english hahaha deep south west
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Fire is Born]
#18832395 - 09/12/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fire is Born said: I just had a big argument with my partner. Who told me never to use cannabis again. Said it was worse than tobacco. Said if I eat it once a month its really bad for me. Said im stupid if I think otherwise. Refused to tell me why it was bad and then said alcohol was ok. Refused to talk about it or accept my propositions for stability. I have never asked anything of her. Time for her to go because although weed is just weed....I don't need to waste my time with someone so closed and angry.
Yeah I make an effort not to have sober people around me for this reason, they typically annoy me to no end. Not that using drugs makes you a better person but they're a pretty big part of my life (around a lot) and generally speaking sober people are buzz-kills / boring.
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Re: my mates hate me using opiates [Re: Repertoire89]
#18832407 - 09/12/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrdbrewer said: Im english hahaha deep south west
Me too. I'm in cornwallQuote:
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Fire is Born said: I just had a big argument with my partner. Who told me never to use cannabis again. Said it was worse than tobacco. Said if I eat it once a month its really bad for me. Said im stupid if I think otherwise. Refused to tell me why it was bad and then said alcohol was ok. Refused to talk about it or accept my propositions for stability. I have never asked anything of her. Time for her to go because although weed is just weed....I don't need to waste my time with someone so closed and angry.
Yeah I make an effort not to have sober people around me for this reason, they typically annoy me to no end. Not that using drugs makes you a better person but they're a pretty big part of my life (around a lot) and generally speaking sober people are buzz-kills / boring.
Fucking A
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