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Potential for unperceivable reality.
    #18831614 - 09/12/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If there is the possibility that parts of reality are impossible to perceive, then does that not make all our beliefs about our perception either presuppositions? Or at best only objective relative to our perceptions, making all our beliefs subjective? I mean we can say that certain things are vastly more likely than others, but at the same time it seems like this idea in a way evens out the likelihood of all possibility into a random crap shoot.


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Re: Potential for unperceivable reality. [Re: vladtepes]
    #18831636 - 09/12/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

everything is relative i suppose

cant be a positive without a negative. No known without an unknown :shrug:


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Re: Potential for unperceivable reality. [Re: vladtepes]
    #18831661 - 09/12/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the world that we perceive is a tiny fraction of the world that we CAN perceive, which is a tiny fraction of the PERCEIVABLE world....  thats my 2 cents

with our nervous system we are limited in perception, i.e. we can't see certain wavelengths, hear certain sound waves, or smell certain things, so we certainly have a limit on the amount of reality we are able to base our worldview on. now in terms of going beyond that, we can use inductive reasoning to suppose that if there are things beyond our nervous system we cannot sense that make up our reality and can only be measured by the emergence of modern technology, we have to arrive at the point where we say that the same modern technology that helped us see our own nervous system limitations, has itself the same kind of limitations...which roundabout explains the "tiny fraction of the PERCEIVABLE world" 
I love thinking about this kind of thing.
look into Hegel, he thought that the entire process of history (note this is early Hegel "Phenomenology of Spirit") all our individual histories, family history, art history, religion, the struggles on mankind as a whole and as individual, was itself God so to speak.  When we are going through a struggle or tough time, we look back and see its place and how it helped us grow as a person, and in the same way, war, famine, the evolution of all things, is a process that is trying to better itself.  History is Gods autobiography.  not a religious god though, but God as an Absolute.
Super interesting stuff to me, hopefully for you too.  I'm a bit hungover eggghhh so I may not have explained that as poetically as I understand it in my head..


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