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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18858230 - 09/18/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Calls to several Presidential libraries reveal that President Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, was on vacation more — 1,020 days — than any U.S. President since Herbert Hoover and possibly more than any other President in history.

Some claim the cost of Bush’s frequent trips to Crawford, Texas cost taxpayers upwards of $20 million, but the numbers are hard to confirm.

A recession started in 2001 as Bush took office after 22 million jobs were created during the Clinton Administration from 1993 to 2000.  Bush began wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and presided over the loss of 4 million jobs.

In 2005, the Washington Post noted President Bush’s frequent vacations in a piece titled Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record as Bush took the longest single vacation — 5 weeks — of any President in 36 years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201703.html

President Bush spent 32% of his presidency on vacation.

Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days.

When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years.  At 1,020 days, Bush was close to being on vacation more days than President John F. Kennedy’s total days in office (1,036).

http://politic365.com/2012/05/08/obamas-vacations-of-any-president-bush-racked-up-the-most/

Zap by my calculation that makes it 42.5 "NONEs"




One Obama vacation to Africa cost more than all of Bush's combined.  Not being at the White House does not mean you are on vacation.  Your source is crap




This ^

just because bush was running the country from his ranch doesn't mean he was on vacation in even close to the same sense as obama.

Before some liberal moron like mush brains comes and says something, I absolutely borderline hate Bush

You trying to say bush is worse than obama lmfao stop copying and pasting crap you find off a yahoo search link

like one guy already said, obama did more damage on that ONE vacation to africa then bush did in probably the ENTIRETY of his presidency


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #18858346 - 09/18/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This is funny, zappa thinks the nyt is too liberal and others think its too conservative. The answer is yes. None of the major media is worth a crap, the nyt is better than most. The worst? the associated press.




I cannot imagine how anybody would think that NY Times is conservative unless they don't actually read it.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18858573 - 09/18/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you mean by "scale"?  That makes no sense.  Like most of your posts. 




You said each of his words must be weighed.  I said your scale is Breitbart and other right-wing garbage, as in, you repeat verbatim how they weigh in on subjects.

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I am not privy to the intelligence data available to the President.  I know what he is doing.  It's called nothing.




You're not privy to a lot of things, so you cannot factually say that nothing is being done, because you have no clue what is being done.

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What was the point?




Critical thinking is HARD.  I'm sorry that you might have to come up with your own logical deductions from seeing that map.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18858646 - 09/18/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What do you mean by "scale"?  That makes no sense.  Like most of your posts. 




You said each of his words must be weighed.  I said your scale is Breitbart and other right-wing garbage, as in, you repeat verbatim how they weigh in on subjects.


:facepalm:  Everything I say is original to me.  Just because I agree with somebody else doesn't mean I am parroting them.  I don't even read Breitbart that much.  They are not bookmarked but I might also point out that I am not a child and have been a conservative since high school.  My views on conservatism predate the internet by decades. 
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I am not privy to the intelligence data available to the President.  I know what he is doing.  It's called nothing.




You're not privy to a lot of things, so you cannot factually say that nothing is being done, because you have no clue what is being done.




So you say there is something being done?
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What was the point?




Critical thinking is HARD.  I'm sorry that you might have to come up with your own logical deductions from seeing that map.




Of course there are bases all around Iran.  Almost none of them are due to an encirclement of Iran policy.  We could have carriers there in a week or two that are far more than any of those bases.  The article even states as much.  Did you read it?  I'm curious about what YOUR deductions were.  That's why I asked for what YOUR point was.  Go ahead.  Stick your dick out.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18858763 - 09/18/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You really don't think it is part of the Iran policy to have military bases completely surrounding Iran?

Really?


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18858895 - 09/18/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You really don't think it is part of the Iran policy to have military bases completely surrounding Iran?

Really?




Do you think invading Iraq and Afghanistan 10 years ago had anything to do with Iran's nuclear program, which didn't exist?  Or protecting Saudi Arabia and Kuwait 20 years ago?


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18859010 - 09/18/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They didn't have a nuclear program when we orchestrated a coup in 1953, either :facepalm:

It isn't about the nuclear program.  Just like it wasn't about WMD's in Iraq in 2003.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18861067 - 09/18/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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News is news.  I get the NY Times delivered everyday and I read almost all of it that is relevant. 




does that mean you only read the comic strips in it?  :smirk:


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18868841 - 09/20/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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News is news.  I get the NY Times delivered everyday and I read almost all of it that is relevant. 




does that mean you only read the comic strips in it?  :smirk:



:rofl2:


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18877705 - 09/22/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

every once in awhile the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: cube talk]
    #18878180 - 09/22/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You have to be kidding me,
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like one guy already said, obama did more damage on that ONE vacation to africa then bush did in probably the ENTIRETY of his presidency




I loathe Obama, but this is pure absurdity, GWB made so many errors in foreign and domestic policy, I couldn't even name them all, I mean shit. Everything from the Dubai buying Ports in the US to thinking Saddam somehow funded Al Qaeda (even though saddam was secular and just as much an enemy to Al Qaeda) The mismanagement in trying to fight the wars on the cheap, inadequate plans to get Bin Laden allowing him to escape through the mountains in Tora Bora because Rumsfeld used Northern Alliance instead of our boys. I mean, the Insurgency in Iraq, I remember Rumsfeld saying, we will be out by july 2006, and by 2006 the country is almost in full scale civil war between Sunni and Shiite. GWB is Jihadi's dream, he played right into the hands of AL Qaeda for the most part, although Osama severely underestimated our fighting capability. The enhanced interrogation, CIA black prisons. GWB expanded the executive so much that jagoffs like Obama have more power then ever.

Obama may be a fucking tard, but he doesn't even compare to GWB and his rubber stamp congress and senate in his first term,


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: imachavel]
    #18879269 - 09/23/13 05:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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every once in awhile the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants





Bring it on we'll kick your ass again.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: sweeper54]
    #18879484 - 09/23/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: imachavel]
    #18879534 - 09/23/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, I even found a place that some share my political views!  I am far, far right some of you are too.  Nice!


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: girlfromga]
    #18880398 - 09/23/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you are a little bit moderate they call you right wing here. Even many people who are liberal on drugs and other things get tagged as neocon or something. The average is to the left of karl marx.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: girlfromga]
    #18880481 - 09/23/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow, I even found a place that some share my political views!  I am far, far right some of you are too.  Nice!



Stick around.  You're gonna like me a lot.:grin:


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18880831 - 09/23/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like you too, zappa. I just wish you would stick to discussing issues rather than ranting at the communists. I realize its tempting to do but then all the threads end up the same. Some do not deserve a thought out reply but some do.

girlfromga, you will be a welcome addition to the board.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #18880889 - 09/23/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Communists, socialists, bums of other stripes.  I rant at them all.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18886924 - 09/24/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Obama may be a fucking tard, but he doesn't even compare to GWB and his rubber stamp congress and senate in his first term,





You are right.  Obama is way fucking worse.  If you haven't figured it out Bush was a fucking Global Progressive, like Obama.  Their policies are fucking almost identical....its the bones and scraps they throw to the good little puppy dogs who support them that are a little different--the bones and scaps they throw to keep the sheeple believing that they are somehow different, when all the time they are supporting the big global business money tycoons. 

And I'd say not one fucking president in the last....oh, 50 years has got foreign policy right.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18888605 - 09/25/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Reagan and Poppy bush were alright


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