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OfflineHrethic
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Can you change yourself? * 1
    #18829240 - 09/11/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I don't like who i am, i don't think i've ever liked who i am.

I've tried psychedelics and i think they can give a better/different perspective on the current situation. I've tried antidepressants and benzo's, and the latter helps when i'm on them (specifically klonopin).

But can you, at the heart of who you are, change that? I want to be more driven, more like a marine, someone who doesn't quit, someone who puts in the extra miles because they know it's what they have to do. I know what i have to do, and i can't ever seem to do it.

Depression is a key issue i know, and maybe all of this will go away in two weeks when i'm at a job i've had an interview for and it went great, but that's not enough. I need a hardwire reboot, new OS, upgraded motivational software, whatever analogy you choose to use. And i can't find it within myself.

Have any of you ever found ways to truly change the core of your being? Personally i don't think it's possible, using the above methods, like i said help, but i think i am who i am, and no matter what i do that's not going to change. And i hate that, because i'm not a very good person when it comes down to it.

Has anyone ever done this?


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OfflineForest.dweller
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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Hrethic] * 6
    #18829277 - 09/11/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hrethic said:
I've tried antidepressants




biggest mistake of your life.


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Hrethic] * 3
    #18829281 - 09/11/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You are the one who controls what direction your life takes. Saying you can't change anything is just you falling victim to your "I'm not driven and never will be" attitude.


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Hrethic]
    #18829295 - 09/11/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You need to find what it is that will give you that drive that you seek.
I know exactly what it is like. I can never keep myself motivated on something unless it actually GIVES me that fire.

Growing mushrooms gave me that. And I dont mean psychadelics. I discovered that I love the whole process. It's fun. It requires focus. And it makes me driven to do more and more and more. I feel it has given my life focus and direction.

You need to find something that will make you focused and driven and give you the sense of moving forward. It isn't so much a matter of CHANGING the core of yourself. It is more a matter of finding what it is that turns the core of you on. What it is that unlocks the REAL you. Rather than the YOU that you feel you are due to society.

Do some soul seeking. A lot of it. And you will understand yourself to a whole new level and discover your drive.

Thats my 2 cents :smile:


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Ace1928]
    #18829326 - 09/11/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think you can change certain aspects and perspectives by working at it, but it doesn't happen overnight. I do think it's possible to change one's self to a certain degree.

But the majority of people will live the duration of their lives who they are whether they like themselves or not.


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OfflineEnvix
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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Niffla]
    #18829477 - 09/11/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

you are infinity, and you can not change infinity. what you can change, is which aspects of infinity you focus on

which aspects of yourself do you wish to pay attention to? which do you wish to avoid?



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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Envix]
    #18829566 - 09/11/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ive been interested in a mental health group i heard of called staying motivated

maybe they have something like that around you?

next monday im gonna ask the guy who i heard about it from more about it because i cant find any info via google

this guy was apart of all these groups,and it helped him back on track, so you may have to attend more than one, on a daily basis, to get where you want to be

metabolic syndrome group

staying motivated

AA

NA

dialectical behavioral therapy

acceptance and commitment therapy

emotional rescue

i personaly didnt last long in the na/aa stuff, as i find harm reduction a much more practical approach although that can take some learning when not to do drugs,

eg

mushrooms make me more depressed when im depressed, but they can be fun when im not

or

i cant mix booze and drugs, because it causes me to drink to a stupor

so i only drink if thats all i plan on doing, and havnt touched drugs in a while


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: hidenseek1] * 1
    #18829588 - 09/11/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't go to AA/NA unless you're interested in joining a bizarre-o cult.


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18829613 - 09/11/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OP i can empathize.  I tried drugs and mediation for many many years and nothing came of it.  Surely, i've seen people go through magical transformations, but i've never figured out how to go about it.

As time goes on it gets boring not liking yourself and u'll chill about it though.  Its pretty hard to think that something else would be better anyways. everybody is pretty darn close to equal.


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Offlinehidenseek1
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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18829615 - 09/11/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:shrug: it works for some people

edit: and some of the stories you hear are awesome in n.a., too bad you cant go stoned


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18829619 - 09/11/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No doubt. I just can't imagine that being the sort of help that I'd need.


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: something super extreme] * 1
    #18829629 - 09/11/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think you can change yourself to a certain degree but genes also play a role. 

but on motivation, I don't think anyone is 100% pushing themselves all day to accomplish their goals.  It's all about balance, motivation, inspiration, and discipline imo


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18829641 - 09/11/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

sVs said:
I wouldn't go to AA/NA unless you're interested in joining a bizarre-o cult.




It doesn't have to be that, it depends on what you get out of it.  Its group therapy, you just can't take everything everyone says as fact.  Just talk about your problems, listen to others and try and figure out what can help you. Its not for everyone, but it can help give people with no one that loves them a group of people that really do care about them.


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #18829654 - 09/11/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

More specifically, the outlined "12 Steps" are a little too far-out for my liking.
Group therapy in and of itself can absolutely be a useful tool for those who need it.


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Offlinehidenseek1
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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18829669 - 09/11/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ya, i dont even get the first 3 steps

i feel bad though cause some guy bought me the 30$ book and i dropped out less than a month later


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18829690 - 09/11/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

sVs said:
More specifically, the outlined "12 Steps" are a little too far-out for my liking.
Group therapy in and of itself can absolutely be a useful tool for those who need it.



The politics, and the "scripture" the lingo, and the mindset of a lot of the people is cult like, but you just need to use your common sense.


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: fapjack]
    #18829700 - 09/11/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You can't change because you are constantly changing and molded by things, but you can learn acceptance


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Hrethic] * 1
    #18829710 - 09/11/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

make peace with your monsters. answer yourself,  why the self hatred. be specific. and make peace...


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Offlinejonnymushroom
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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: Hrethic]
    #18829723 - 09/11/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I can take a long time but it can happen when you have found reasons to be truly happy and do some soul searching .


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Re: Can you change yourself? [Re: jonnymushroom]
    #18829810 - 09/11/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Find your passion and this will change, OP.


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