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Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety?
    #18829293 - 09/11/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To make a long story short, I've been progressively smoking/vaping more and more over the past 2-3years. I've also tried methylone about 4 times in the past 20 months but thats sort of beside the point. For some reason, my social anxiety has been getting worse and worse. I think it started at a point where it was sort of hard to notice but its gotten to the point where I walk around my college campus in a nervous state. I walk into a lecture hall and I just feel worried and nervous, and I feel like people are looking at me. I haven't always been this way, I use to be really out going and positive. I'm actually started to become seriously worried about this anxiety, its inhibiting me from meeting new people and taking care of my work. Really my only question is, do you guys think this anxiety is stemming from my weed use? If so, I think I may just stop altogether despite the fact that I thoroughly enjoy the substance. Not trying to bash weed or anything, I love the substance, but I think it may just not be for me. Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer, I really appreciate it


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18829320 - 09/11/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Weed definitely can exacerbate your social anxiety. I suggest you take a long break and see how thing are going for you then.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18829327 - 09/11/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's definitely possible yeah. I also vape, and I get like that sometimes just simply walking down the street, but I was also like this before I used weed, probably worse, very introverted. The fact that you said you WERE outgoing but now not, I would say weed is a contributor yes.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: HostDisorder] * 1
    #18829465 - 09/11/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, thanks guys. I haven't smoked now for 5 days now, I'm gonna go for 30 and see if I see any improvement. I love to smoke on weekends so its gonna be a bit tough stopping, guess I'll replace it with a few beers


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18829529 - 09/11/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It definatly brings out social anxiety in me. I feel like everyones looking at me, like i can never say the right thing, and i get super quiet and awkward to be around.. Why i normally just smoke by myself when chillin at the crib if i even do at all. But it has no effect one me while sober. Honestly i think that part of it is all in your head. If you THINK its making you more anxious when not high then it will.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18829537 - 09/11/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ya it definitly can, but its up to you to BE that contrast in your non cannabis consciousness life. Go for it! Be who you are. :peace:


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: weshroom]
    #18829711 - 09/11/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe one day take a hefty does of edibles, or just smoke a lot, and try to work through it.  I used to get really tense when I smoked, but I think by doing this every so often I can kind of assure myself that a regular toking high isn't anything to worry about.  Puts your highs in perspective at the very least.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18829768 - 09/11/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think I may dose some mushrooms instead, in the past a good mushroom dose has really helped my anxiety and it sort of relives me of any urge to smoke. The thing is, I dont really ever get anxious while high. This is something that I've noticed specifically when not using cannabis. It's just the sense of uneasiness around strangers and in public places. I don't know what else could be causing this, I never had this problem in the past which is why its really worrying me. Like I said, I think I'm gonna take a 20-30 days off, and if I see no benefit, then maybe I'll just go back considering its probably not the problem. I don't think this problem is really something I can just fight off, I've been trying that the past 2 months. I ordered some phenibut and I think I may start dosing that 2-3 times a week to help me manage this anxiety. Feeling anxious in class really hurts my focus in class


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18829828 - 09/11/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I smoked daily for 5 years 1-3.5 grams a day hence the name Doobie Dude, ill roll joints that'll knock your socks off lol.  Anyway I noticed my anxiety got so bad I couldn't hang out with friends and talking to women my god I had to be smashed.  I am on week 5 of no herb and my anxiety is all but gone and I feel clear headed and happier about life.  I suggest a T break to anyone with anxiety.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18829831 - 09/11/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, it gives me social anxiety in certain situations. I hate it because I love cannabis. I only smoke it now when I'm either alone or I'm doing something active with people. Lazing about and chilling like most stoners love to do is the opposite of what I like to do while stoned cause it gives me huge anxiety. However I can get fried and walk around in a public setting and meet new people there just fine but put me in a private setting that I'm not familiar with and other people are and I get nervous and anxious, it fucking blows. I quit smoking and I probably won't smoke again until late next year. I smoked dabs a few times at some dudes house and I just couldn't hang with them. They could out smoke me x100, I mean they smoked dabs constantly. They'd get me stoned to the point that I felt like dying. It was bad, I mean I kept my cool but DAMN. But then again, I'd smoke some dabs by myself then jump on a four wheeler and HAUL ASS with no anxiety. It's weird. Some psychedelics give me anxiety but no where near as bad as tr weed, and stims have never given me anxiety. I've gotten social anxiety a few times sober though, I don't know why. I never used to get it. When I do it just makes me angry so I usually just start talking to get over it quick but when I'm stoned I get paralyzed by it. So it was fun, Mary Jane...maybe one day we will meet again.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18829930 - 09/11/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I smoked before giving presentations in speech class :shrug: made me feel confident. Got an A. Only 1-2 pen dabs though.

Then again I smoke all the time. If I stopped for a month and started again, it would be too strong for easing social anxiety


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18829983 - 09/11/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think I may dose some mushrooms instead, in the past a good mushroom dose has really helped my anxiety and it sort of relives me of any urge to smoke. The thing is, I dont really ever get anxious while high. This is something that I've noticed specifically when not using cannabis. It's just the sense of uneasiness around strangers and in public places. I don't know what else could be causing this, I never had this problem in the past which is why its really worrying me. Like I said, I think I'm gonna take a 20-30 days off, and if I see no benefit, then maybe I'll just go back considering its probably not the problem. I don't think this problem is really something I can just fight off, I've been trying that the past 2 months. I ordered some phenibut and I think I may start dosing that 2-3 times a week to help me manage this anxiety. Feeling anxious in class really hurts my focus in class




yeah mushrooms would work best.  After my first mushroom trip I felt at peace with everything, and for a good time after, smoking didn't affect me the same way.  Actually, it's never been the same.  Smoking now is a bit less powerful then I remember (that trip was over a year ago now)but there's very little negative effects I get now which greatly makes up for it,


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18830050 - 09/11/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, I think that's definitely what's happening to me as well. I use to only smoke on weekends when I first started, but this summer I went real ham. I went to a few festivals where me and two dudes went through an ounce or so in 3 days, which is more than I ever usually smoke. I was also smoking days in a row with only a day or two off. I think I'm gonna take a nice long T-break. Definitely gonna try to get a mush trip in maybe this weekend or next weekend, I've got about 2gs which I think I'm gonna turn into tea.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18830053 - 09/11/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know that weed directly makes my social skills worse. When I toke I definitely fall into the loner stoner camp. I'd imagine that smoking constantly could effect social anxiety if you are prone towards it anyway. Cutting back would at least show you if it has a positive effect or not and help get to the root of the cause.

Best of luck in sorting it out.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18830088 - 09/11/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Weed can definitely cause anxiety. it creates that weird focus tube, which is great if your immersed in nature or video games or whatever, terrible if its all your self doubt on an amplification loop. A trip could definitely bring clarity, but obviously take care when and where and with who.  Dealing with everything sober (or whatever not hating on my medicated friends)  is a good starting point.

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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: therealtoad]
    #18830110 - 09/11/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18830139 - 09/11/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's gross. :/ I wouldn't even drink dxm syrup.

Why do they like syrup? I don't know. :shrug: maybe the opiates are blindly addicting? Lol


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18830155 - 09/11/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hahaha. I've never done this before but I'm thinking about doing a solo trip in the dark with some music. I've yet to try it but I've heard they can be incredibly therapeutic


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18830164 - 09/11/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've noticed the more time I spend alone, and the more time I would spend smoking weed alone, I would become more anxious when I would smoke around other people. I would go into hyper-awareness mode, noticing way more about a social setting than I should. It made things really strange. As a (nearly) daily toker of the past 2 or so years, I've finally decided to take an indefinite break from the bud. It's been 23 days so far and I already can feel a subtle clarity returning.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: CatchThirtythr33]
    #18830180 - 09/11/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah after about 4 weeks my clear head returned I suggest eating blueberries it cleaned out my system so well


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18830478 - 09/11/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm a big fan of blueberries so I'll give it a go. Thanks for all the advice guys, I really do appreciate it  :peace: . I never imagined that the anxiety would get this bad so I think its about time I see how long I can really go without it. I'm at 5 days now, gonna go for at least 30, I don't think itll be too difficult. Just gonna have to change the way I spend my time on Friday and Saturday


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18830605 - 09/11/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've dealt with minor to major social anxiety for the last few years of my life. I smoke a few times a week and honestly its tough for me to make any  connection between smoking and my anxiety. While supremely stoned there's no doubt it makes me more anxious and self-conscious but it's hard to make a connection to my sober state. I have taken 2 month long breaks without any change in my confidence and social awkwardness. My suggestion is to give quitting a try but more than likely there's a deeper cause for your problems than pot.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: BirdsIView]
    #18831925 - 09/12/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you get this anxiety only for the duration of the high or is it persistent even when sober?

I've been a daily smoker for nearly 10 years. Been through all sorts of situations high. I avoid being high in social situations where I do not know people like going out to the bar or going to college classes and labs. Its just uncomfortable and not places where I can just chill and be my baked self. Anxiety from being high in these situations undoubtedly stem from the social stigma surrounding marijuana not to mention being high on marijuana kind of puts me at least in a rather vulnerable head space which can easily stray to paranoia.

A lot of anxieties come from irregular breathing and the accumulation of CO2 in the body. After I smoked and am fully baked I tend to take shallow breaths. One must consciously remember to forcefully exhale all that dead air in your lungs that is just simply taking up space. Also remember to take deep breaths every so often and maintain a good breathing tempo. People also tend to forget or are not aware that smoking in it of itself produces CO2 which is taken up by the lungs where it binds to red blood cells at a higher affinity than does oxygen. Simply put your body is not getting enough oxygen.

In addition to that marijuana has a strong effect on glucose metabolism and insulin sensitivity. With that being said make sure you do not smoke on an empty stomach and to have a sugary beverage near by. A lot of times I feel that, that anxious feeling could also be due to hypoglycemia(low blood sugar) which users may confuse with anxiety and lethargy.

Also I can't count how helpful having a nice cold glass of water has helped ease any anxious feelings coming on.

On a side note I think for users prone to anxiety and paranoia it would be best for them to steer clear of strains of marijuana that are sativa dominant and would stick to the calmer indicas. If you are not lucky enough to be able to take your pick so to speak than I would suggest growing your own this way you can choose genetics that better suit your needs.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: thedream]
    #18831963 - 09/12/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

^good post.

also I think strains with high cbd are good for anxiety.  A tolerance break will probably do you good though.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: el_barto]
    #18832817 - 09/12/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Id try the tolerance break without phenibut, so you can really assess how you feel. Phenibut effects you throughout most of the day and often there are next day feelings (afterglow or crash). Also it is pretty dang addictive and is supposed to have some harsh WD's. I say keep the phenibut for special occasions, like interviews or occasional high arousal situations. And if you wanna make it a regular thing start once every 2 weeks. That way you can show yourself you can go 2 weeks without it first before gettin hooked on it before you know it.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: weshroom]
    #18833454 - 09/12/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I understand what your saying, I have heard that phenibut can be very addictive. The problem is, I'm an engineer major and my workload really stresses me out, especially this semester. I've got three very busy days throughout the week, and I planned on taking 1g in the morning to help push off any anxiety and stress I have pent up so I can sit in class and focus. I've heard that as long as you don't dose continuously without any breaks, tolerance does not really build up. I know by taking phenibut, it will be hard to gauge how much the tolerance break is helping, but I feel like I don't really have much of a choice, this semester is already taking on a tole on my mental health. I do plan to start mediating though, maybe that will end up helping me just as much as phenibut :shrug: I appreciate your concern though, I do not have an addictive personality. I have always kept my weed usage strictly to the weekends, this summer was the first time that I broke that rule and I think I may be suffering the consequences now


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: OliverJames]
    #18833586 - 09/12/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it's different for everyone. there's definitely no rule like "everyone who smokes often will get social anxiety" but it can happen.

just try quitting and see how you feel.

I myself go through phases, sometimes the pot starts to take over a bit too much so I just quit and once the mental fog dissipates I blaze again and I love everything like the first time I smoked.

also you absolutely dont need to worry about permanent effects as far as social anxiety goes. if you quit it'll go away


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: GEncore]
    #18834271 - 09/12/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ya man, well just be careful. I dont have an addictive personality and I can use it once a week fine. I personally wouldnt push it more then that. I took 1g on tuesday, and just had 1 beer in the afternoon on wednesday and had the worst headache ive had in years. On top of that I was having muscle twitches all day. Cant say for sure it was from the phenibut but I have my suspicions.

I guess you'll find out once you try it if that regimen will work out for you or not.

You might also want to look into aniracetam, its a nootropic but also suppose to be anxiolytic. Check into all the racetams, you might find they will help you all that you need. Different ones are better for different people, I think I prefer plain old piracetam.


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Re: Can weed seriously bring out social anxiety? [Re: weshroom]
    #18834394 - 09/12/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had lots of social anxiety for awhile it all started from a trip on shrooms. I tripped bad on shrooms and ever since then, a high from weed can bring out deep mental thought causing me to become depressed and very self concious. Took me a year to get over it and now that shroom trip isn't even in my head.

My advice is to stop smoking and limit the shroom trips a little. That's just what helped me though


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