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First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D
#18829191 - 09/11/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok - hello everyone, going to try and keep this short and simple. Thank you everyone who has given me advice on this site I learn something new everyday! *I will have updated pics everyday(I hope)* I've grown bags before with great success with 3+ flushes out of both my bags using b+. I'll post pics of one of the last flushes I took pics of.
this is the last flush I got out of themadseasons grow bag

this is another tiny experiment using wet paper towel as the bottom, I just threw in the cut off pieces of stem where I twisted from substrate. and surprisingly it took off.
  I'm starting this grow log, it will be my first - so there will be numerous edits & picture posts. I've already have been conversating with some moderators on this site as well as trusted cultivators about what I'm doing.
Which is: brf+verm cakes crumpled into bulk brf+verm in a aluminum 2lb trays (2) one has the lid with holes with polyfill and tape over it till fruiting time, the other just has aluminum foil covering the top. I did the transfer in pretty damn still air in my room, closed vents & sprayed Lysol. Waited awhile to settle then went at it.
*now they all said to do the right thing and do coir/verm/gypsum, and the other forsure work ways. But im doing this as sterile as possible so it MIGHT work. Again my post title says *experimental* it looks good so far, its been in my closet since 9/9/13.
Let me tell you how freaking great those cakes smelt when I popped em out of the cup and into the mixing bag :') Thank anyone in advance for helpful criticism and advice, will be posting pics.
this is tray1 w/ lid w/ polyfil in holes with tape over them for now till fruiting. -
       
this is tray2 along with tray1 in closet colonizing with a blanket under and over (still with space available for g.e.)
  
this is a pint jar I will be using to noc up some other brf jars once its done colonizing.
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: 09/12/13 : 6:50AM - I just looked at the tray1 and might I say it looks great. very healthy. pics are VERY hard to take because theres moisture inside and I REALLY do not want to take lid of till 100% it looks to be anywere from 40-65% colonized right now. (QUESTION to the people who think it might contam. - how long does it usually take for that to happen? 8:00PM : here are some pics, there is a lot of moistre inside, shold I take one or two of the pieces of tape from top? there like 3-4cm holes up there.. still no signs of contam(knock on wood)
      
EDIT 9/13/13 1:10AM - tray 1  
tray 2 w/ alum. foil. I think the lid is better on tray 1, because it shows more growth then #2 
9/13/13 : 4:30AM : this is tray 2 with some fuzzy lookin myc- can anyone tell me if its okay or not? 
UPDATE 9/13/14 : 11PM - tray 1 lookin good!

tray 2, not so good, it dosnt look that grey-ish in real life... I took peroxide on a qtip to see if it would melt but it didn't... I still took as much of it off as I could after I took the pics,under the fuzz it looked like a whole bunch of black tiny dots.-what is that? and SHOULD I TRY AND CUT THAT PART OFF THE SUB?
 
took pics couple mins ago 4:30pm 8/15/13 hows the myc lookin on both? **and is it ok for it to run up the sides like that? - what out lie the ice sycle looking things coming up? is that the forming pins?**
tray 1:
 
tray 2:

UPDATE 4:00AM Tray 1

Tray 2

EVERYTHING SMELLS LIKE IT SHOULD, IM STILL SPRAYING H2O2 EVERY 12HRS OR SO.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18829207 - 09/11/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you've got BRF in your tray there is a huge chance that they will fail. I don't know why people refuse to take advice, especially on something so basic.
But at any rate, good luck.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18829428 - 09/11/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea brf as a substrate is way to nutritious it's going to contaminate all over the place on you. Use coir+verm and pasteurize it if you want to spawn a PF cake to bulk in a tray.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18829448 - 09/11/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know, im doing it because its all I have and as an experiment under the right sanitary precautions.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18829489 - 09/11/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: I know, im doing it because its all I have and as an experiment under the right sanitary precautions.
You have the sanitary conditions birth your cake without it ever touching air then crumble without touching air then mix with the substrate that has been sterilized and transferred to your sterile environment without becoming not sterile? and then it colonizes in sterility as well? But you don't have the 4$ it takes for a brick of coir at any pet store?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18829498 - 09/11/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes and no.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18831220 - 09/12/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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edit was posted 9/12 located @ bottom
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18832437 - 09/12/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bump, info anyone?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18832565 - 09/12/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: If you've got BRF in your tray there is a huge chance that they will fail. I don't know why people refuse to take advice, especially on something so basic.
But at any rate, good luck.
I think that's the only info any one around here will ever give you
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18833768 - 09/12/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No info for ya but I'm definitely interested in seeing the results. Best of luck. Unrelated question, were the B+ you grew potent for the most part? Or did it vary?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: OneiricOutlier] 1
#18833795 - 09/12/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The potency of B+ will vary if it's a multispore inoculation. I'm sure I've grown more B+ than the op and sometimes they're great sometimes not.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18834002 - 09/12/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I see, so isolation is the way to go for B+, huh? Don't mean to hijack the thread, but thanks for replying, bodhisatta.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: OneiricOutlier]
#18834247 - 09/12/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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for the most part lol, im still using b+
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18834255 - 09/12/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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so for all the moisture in there, should I open 1 or 2 of the holes on top? or just leave it? I think im going to fruit either tomorrow or saterday, I looked at the tray a min ago and it was pretty damn white!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18834285 - 09/12/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey buddy just a friendly heads up, might wanna watch out with leaving identifiable tattoos in your pics.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: LTSwoomz]
#18834292 - 09/12/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeaa. just thought abt that wile clicking on "threads"
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: LTSwoomz]
#18834330 - 09/12/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fixed. can you anser the question of shold I take the tape off of either 1 or 2 of the small holes on top? there is a lotta moisture inside... or is this ok?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18834407 - 09/12/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't have a direct answer for you, save to say that if the moisture in there creates pools of water on top of the substrate, it's bad news bears.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: OneiricOutlier]
#18834495 - 09/12/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OneiricOutlier said: I see, so isolation is the way to go for B+, huh?
Not just for B+, but for all cubes....
B+ is no different than any other variety.....
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: LTSwoomz]
#18834496 - 09/12/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive figured that much, thank you though..
can ANYONE else tell mewhat I should do??
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: PussyFart]
#18834750 - 09/12/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey hacker , I have lots of moisture in my tray, should I take a tape of anyholes if you see in the pics at the bottom??
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18834754 - 09/12/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only if you are trying to fruit it....
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: PussyFart]
#18834768 - 09/12/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok, I thought this, I just didn't wqnt any water to pool up on the sub..
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18834779 - 09/12/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Worry about the pooling water once you fruit it....
Or you could just tilt the tray and watch the water flow over the edge....
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: PussyFart]
#18834796 - 09/12/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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true that also works. again, great info. me love you long time.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: PussyFart]
#18834802 - 09/12/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18834811 - 09/12/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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whats that face about?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18834856 - 09/12/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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When its done colonizing, fruit it. Enjoy.
Why are people saying brf cakes as spawn will fail?? That's just not true. Sure there's a bit more handling and the dry layer must be removed but clean spawn is clean spawn. No fancy advice needed.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18834862 - 09/12/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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its not that, you've read wrong, im using brf & verm as my substrate aswell haha.. its good so far.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18834907 - 09/12/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh shit. I am quite stupid... yeah all that exposure to high nutrient sub is a gamble. Lets hope your air is super clean and the mush gods love you
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18834962 - 09/12/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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your not stupid lol. just prolly either skimmed thru or didn't read the original post lol.
I just posted 3more pics, 2 of tray 1, 1 of tray one at the bottom.
take a look, info on!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835171 - 09/13/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It looks healthy as pie to me Looks like she's about to explode into pin city
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18835224 - 09/13/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wont be home sat so im thinking of fruiting it before I leave that day
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835488 - 09/13/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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can anyone tell me if the white fuzz is ok? the 4:30am update at the bottom, thanks!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835493 - 09/13/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely does not look ok to me
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18835498 - 09/13/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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its only in one of the corners amd its like 1/2 - 3 in. in diameter, what could it be?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835513 - 09/13/13 02:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tray 2 looks like it might turn green pretty soon.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18835514 - 09/13/13 02:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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there was a teeny tiny dot of green, but I pulled that shit out.
but the fuzzy patch.... what the hell is it? it dosnt look to be bad but ive never had it before.. what to do what to do...
if it is bad, should I cut the corner that has it and just keep the rest the the colonized block? or just wait and fruit and see what happens?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835538 - 09/13/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is it more grey in real life than in the pictures? The flash throws off the white balance.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18835686 - 09/13/13 05:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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no everything is healthy looking white, im just worried abt the patch of fuzz.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835699 - 09/13/13 05:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuzz like that is almost always some kind of mold.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18835709 - 09/13/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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so should I
fruit it & try my luck
cut it out and proceed
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835757 - 09/13/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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anyone???
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835802 - 09/13/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no input of any value, but I wanted to wish you luck!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: hidyn]
#18835822 - 09/13/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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well hey, its appreciated. ive actually found out something.. that I NEED to confirm, ill read all possible answers but if a trusted cultivator could post the answer that would be fantastic..
ive read about 2 hrs ago that - if there is cobweb mold, to take a qtip with 3% peroxide on it and touch the cobweb, and IF it melts to the touch it IS mold.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835827 - 09/13/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: no everything is healthy looking white, im just worried abt the patch of fuzz.
Looks like cobweb to me? Is it spreading very rapidly?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Skinty]
#18835842 - 09/13/13 07:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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no not realy I noticed it around 4am this morning but it looks to be around the same size, but look at my post above yours to see if you could possibly answer it
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18835931 - 09/13/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: there was a teeny tiny dot of green, but I pulled that shit out.
Good luck now, You should have just thrown the whole thing out. Green is only the sporulating part of trich.. Trich mycellium is probably all over the place waiting to turn green elsewhere
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18835949 - 09/13/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well see, I'm goin to bed now been up all night.. I'll post pics again when I'm up!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18838816 - 09/13/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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posted pics o tray 1&2 at the bottom 11pm update, what should I do with tray 2?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18839068 - 09/13/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Leave it and go to bed
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18839146 - 09/13/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Definitely does not look ok to me
I agree, I posted in your other thread. Your mycelium looks a little thick, it could be due to what you're using for your sub. Also since you're using verm and BRF for your sub how did you prep it for use?
Im guessing bacteria issue was the start of the mold and that's because of the overly dense mycelium.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: tbagtag]
#18840096 - 09/14/13 04:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I prepped everything as cleanly as possible..
ill be fruiting tomorrow, will keep updated
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18840198 - 09/14/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is kinda like the question, why do we only use the 2-1-1 rule for cakes. Having to many nutrients can always create situations for other contaminants to breed and take over. You have a ton of nutrient rich surface area, and they are right it contaminated the minuet you made your casing layer. Your just now seeing it pop up.
To answer your question on what to do...
Check out this post. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1617012
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18840226 - 09/14/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: I prepped everything as cleanly as possible..
ill be fruiting tomorrow, will keep updated
You would have had to do your "special" sub recipe in completely sterile conditions. Ie your birthing crumbling mixing colonizing of substrate all in a glove box, still air box, flow hood
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18844864 - 09/15/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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hows the myc lookin on both? **and is it ok for it to run up the sides like that? - what out lie the ice sycle looking things coming up? is that the forming pins?**
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18844957 - 09/15/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That is rhizomorphic mushroom mycelium climbing the sides.
Those big puffy balls of white in your tray are not a good sign. Looks unhealthy and contaminated but I am just judging that from the healthy myc I am used to seeing. Fortuately I don't have much experience with contams
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18845019 - 09/15/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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theres no pffy balls, only on tray 2 but I did get done sparyin h2o2 for the cobweb I have
it mitehave been the flash
but the rhyzo is good riht? or wrong?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18845053 - 09/15/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rhizo is good yes
All I am saying is the healthy myc in my trays and tubs have never looked like what I see in tray 1. The myc looks really thick and puffed up in places. Some of it even looks like a different color but that can be hard to discern in a photograph
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18845348 - 09/15/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Rhizo is good yes
All I am saying is the healthy myc in my trays and tubs have never looked like what I see in tray 1. The myc looks really thick and puffed up in places. Some of it even looks like a different color but that can be hard to discern in a photograph
Rhizo growth can also be a sign of bacterial infection of the substrate. With the mold issue and the denseness of the mycelium I'm guessing op has bacteria.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: tbagtag]
#18846017 - 09/15/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here you go op. This is what healthy fully colonized bulk sub should look like
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18846451 - 09/15/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So have you got past your contamination denial yet?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18847642 - 09/16/13 04:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It might look bulky in tray one because those couple big looking spots is cake I guess I didn't get to crumble all the way so that's what that is
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18847653 - 09/16/13 04:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18852226 - 09/17/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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POSTED 2 new pics 8/17/13 4AM
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18852559 - 09/17/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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EVERYTHING SMELLS LIKE IT SHOULD, IM STILL SPRAYING H2O2 EVERY 12HRS OR SO.
why? It's not going to help you and it's only going to slow down the good myc by forcing it to use peroxidase making it more suitable to become a hotbed for contamination.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18856859 - 09/18/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Both trays look like they have spikes coming up almost every were what is that?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18856863 - 09/18/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pics?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18856913 - 09/18/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: tbagtag]
#18857015 - 09/18/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I cant!, we had to pawn our laptop and that's how I was transferring my pics from my phone
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18857471 - 09/18/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: I cant!, we had to pawn our laptop and that's how I was transferring my pics from my phone
lol what... You're trying to grow mushrooms but are so poor you have to pawn a laptop. How does that work. Spend your time finding a job then grow mushrooms with the money.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18857485 - 09/18/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: I cant!, we had to pawn our laptop and that's how I was transferring my pics from my phone
lol what... You're trying to grow mushrooms but are so poor you have to pawn a laptop. How does that work. Spend your time finding a job then grow mushrooms with the money.
To be fair for all we know OP could have had a major emergency.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: tbagtag]
#18857507 - 09/18/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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For real way to jump to conclusions. Hes starving his son to pay for BRF!!!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Magicman69]
#18857528 - 09/18/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Magicman69 said: For real way to jump to conclusions. Hes starving his son to pay for BRF!!!
I would really hope thats not the case. I try to think the best of people in bad situations. I have been homeless twice in my adult life due to situations beyond my control.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: tbagtag]
#18857662 - 09/18/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Emergency selling of a laptop to continue his "money-for-nothing monotub TEK"
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18857932 - 09/18/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Il be doing trays in a closet asap. I got nothing to add here, just that a better start mite have been a good plan. Im just a newby tho so waddafukk. I did REAL good with pf tek back 04-07 tho. I liked it alot. I think I did real good cause I did everything just like I read it. Maybe a better plan was in order?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Hairlesscaveape]
#18858296 - 09/18/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well judging from the pics in the op I'd say that tray is probably fucked anyway
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18862974 - 09/19/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck yalls bad comments. whats this^^^
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18863173 - 09/19/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I keep trying to tell you dude that tray is fucked.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18864434 - 09/19/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know wtf that is...but because it's an "experimental" tray, you should keep it going, for science
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18864602 - 09/19/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck yalls bad comments. whats this^^^
This is not what redemption looks like.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: bodhisatta]
#18864624 - 09/19/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck yalls bad comments. whats this^^^
This is not what redemption looks like.
I believe that would be aerial mycelium coming off of a severely bacterial infected mycelium. We are not trying to be negative, but for the love of God don't be the black knight from Monty Python.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: tbagtag]
#18864778 - 09/19/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18865856 - 09/20/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tray 1 is showing a tiny forming pin Lol
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: OneiricOutlier]
#18865859 - 09/20/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That'swhat iI'm doingbut iI do see a forming pin
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18866017 - 09/20/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well good i hope you get some fruits off of it but that thing is definitely infected with bacteria pretty bad. That doesn't mean you won't possibly still get some fruit though
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18873195 - 09/21/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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UPDATE: 9/21/13 7:50PM
ok guys, ive got many pins forming on both but 1 has slightly more here you go along with an invitro jar ive got goin tray 1

tray 2

invitro jar
 its been in my closet for probally about a month or month and a half and i just put it in sunlight the other day its lookin decent.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18873611 - 09/21/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man that tray is scary looking 
Glad you're getting some fruits popping up though
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18878723 - 09/23/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is it bad to eat the mushys even though there grown on contaminated substrate? Also Wb making syringes with them?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18879243 - 09/23/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can always clone the center of the fruits to a LC, or Agar. This will allow you to isolate out the bad shit if there is any. I am slowly learning Agar, and my only advise is to buy really good petri's or a lot of disposable ones. Glad your getting fruits man.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Sockadin]
#18883125 - 09/24/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dosnt answer my question by aloot, and i dont have the resourses or space to go into agar atm mabey in years in future. somepne answer my questions please and thxx
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#18883138 - 09/24/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is it bad to eat the mushys even though there grown on contaminated substrate? Also Wb making syringes with them?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18883198 - 09/24/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its perfectly fine to eat the mushrooms as long as they themselves aren't all slimy with bacteria or rotted. Being grown in the presence of mold is fine. Yes you can use the caps for spores. maybe just as they're opening so you don't get mold spores inside your gills. A great way to make spores clean enough or grain use: adhere a fish hook or piece of wire under a jar lid using silicone Fill the jar half way with clean tap water Pressure cook the jar with water in, lid on When cool, inside a still air box/flowhood, Quickly and carefully unscrew the lid and place your mushroom cap, gill side down, on the hook. The spores drop ono sterile water. When finished, ( in still air box ect) remove cap & suck up spore water into syringes
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18884790 - 09/24/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^^^^ thank you. i was guessing asmuch but im just being sure.
uploading pics soon
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18884795 - 09/24/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update 9/24/13
Tray 1:

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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18885460 - 09/24/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well they don't look like they are trying to abort Man cubes are a tough species! Congrats on the good looking fruits Udntsay! 
Now I am going to give you a "real" 5 shroom rating
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18886207 - 09/24/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great .gif Appreciate it. Will continue to post pics every couple days, keep the words typin!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18890644 - 09/25/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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UPDATE 9/25/13 8:30PM
TRAY 1:

TRAY 2:

INVITRO JAR:
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18894474 - 09/26/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Going to be posting more pics in x amt of hours so let me know what yall think. Also go a question for why are the stems and caps not being longer andwider than the ones iI had in a bag a couple months ago? Its it just a petite mutation and the second flush should be bigger? Let me no thanks.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18895782 - 09/26/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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UPDATE 9/26/13 10:20PM
TRAY 1:

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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18898088 - 09/27/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's looking great! I'm glad you kept the experiment going, I can't wait to start my grow.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: OneiricOutlier]
#18898512 - 09/27/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you! Its very fun and calming I would have to say I love it! Good luck and happy cultivating! Keep us updated!
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#18993770 - 10/18/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok so I've had 3 or 4 flushes being like 200-450 g wet I'll write stuff down next time if the bulk with let me I'm dunking for a 3rd time and re putting them in there fruiting chambers today around 5pm. I'll try to get some pics up, and my invitro jar is making huge ass fruits aswel. That's on it's like 2nd or 3rd mini flush too. All in all I'd have to say this was a pretty damn good tek for me but that'sjjust me.
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#19014133 - 10/22/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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heres the last flush i had from the invitro, it was around 35-40g wet

This was a tri-shroom lol just thought it was neat. never experienced this before.

10/22/13 Tray 1 / this is after like 3 flushes i think and this will be the 4th

Tray 2 / same thing ^^

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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#19014139 - 10/22/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: Stromrider]
#19014404 - 10/22/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice job dude those guys look like they'll be ready sometime tonight or in the morning. 
next time try using a coir/verm to spawn to and you'll have alot better odds of keeping it clean
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#19014548 - 10/22/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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udntsay said: heres the last flush i had from the invitro, it was around 35-40g wet

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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: PussyFart]
#19015237 - 10/22/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Teh fuhh?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: PirateSwazey]
#19015247 - 10/22/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Definitely. Just didn't have the resources at the time.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: udntsay]
#19015273 - 10/22/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good grows man! What did you use as your casing layer?
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I don't see a casing layer.
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: PussyFart]
#19015358 - 10/22/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like they could use a little bit less water?
Those caps all look very wet, more then likely you just misted, but they're also beginning to wrinkle pretty good there. Someone else just made a post about the same sorta thing. I'm thinking too much H2O?
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Re: First, [Experimental] Trays -Growlog :D [Re: FunnyLight]
#19017202 - 10/23/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nahjust misted before pic and no casing layer
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