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InvisibleCounterCulturest
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Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. * 1
    #18829022 - 09/11/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



Look who posted it lol. "ShroomerysLearyFan". Leave it to that guy to always post some good shit. LearyFan always delivers !

But anyways. This is very interesting.


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Re: Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #18829086 - 09/11/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I worked in live sound and pro audio manufacturing back in the day and I did a lot of work for the Grateful Dead, mostly their mixing consoles and their power amplifiers. I can say beyond any doubt that what he is saying is simply not true. Maybe he thought it was at the time. Smoking DMT or taking other drugs never changed anything in their equipment. But they did blow up their share of amps and speakers and it was because they pushed them too hard.


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Re: Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. [Re: Universe]
    #18829165 - 09/11/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Universe said:
I worked in live sound and pro audio manufacturing back in the day and I did a lot of work for the Grateful Dead, mostly their mixing consoles and their power amplifiers. I can say beyond any doubt that what he is saying is simply not true. Maybe he thought it was at the time. Smoking DMT or taking other drugs never changed anything in their equipment. But they did blow up their share of amps and speakers and it was because they pushed them too hard.




Why do I completely believe that hehe. 
:ohyou: 
I watched that vid about 6 months ago, and I didn't believe it then, and I don't believe it now.  Makes no logical sense, but that's kinda why I'm still surprised Bear himself said it.  Then again, I never met the guy, but I'd always figured that he was a pretty logical dude.


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Re: Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. [Re: pureenergy13] * 1
    #18829245 - 09/11/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

^^^ exactly. I couldn't choke it down but Its kinda shocking that he The Bear did say it. He was not stupid by any stretch.

Have you heard the interview where he talks about one of his tripping partners and how she would insists that you never have the attitude of "don't worry, it's just an illusion created by a drug" Instead they would choose to believe that everything was real. Drug induced or not. That would be loony. Interesting thought though. I have never heard anyone recommend that way of handling the effects of hallucinogens.


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Re: Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #18829394 - 09/11/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't we all experience strange effects with electronics while tripping?

Malfunctioning electronics is (in my mind) one of the most common reports from the psychedelic experience.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. [Re: flickedbic]
    #18829434 - 09/11/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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CounterCulturest said:
^^^ exactly. I couldn't choke it down but Its kinda shocking that he The Bear did say it. He was not stupid by any stretch.

Have you heard the interview where he talks about one of his tripping partners and how she would insists that you never have the attitude of "don't worry, it's just an illusion created by a drug" Instead they would choose to believe that everything was real. Drug induced or not. That would be loony. Interesting thought though. I have never heard anyone recommend that way of handling the effects of hallucinogens.




Yeah, I definitely have, I believe they were in the same clip back then.  I don't approach the experience that way.  I certainly believe my thoughts are real, which is where the value of the experience lies, but I also haven't ever dosed to the point where I've truly forgotten that I've even ingested a drug to be fair.

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Don't we all experience strange effects with electronics while tripping?

Malfunctioning electronics is (in my mind) one of the most common reports from the psychedelic experience.




Of course, but Owsley said that he experienced greater amplification from their gear even while he was sober, while someone else smoked near it.


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Re: Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. [Re: pureenergy13]
    #18829458 - 09/11/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Right.

I don't think everyone is hallucinating malfunctioning electronics.

I think they actually malfunction; and I don't think everyone in the room needs to be tripping for it to happen.


His experiment seems completely reproducible.  Anyone with the technology up for some science?


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (09/11/13 07:25 PM)


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Re: Very interesting. Owsley says DMT makes volume louder. Check this out. [Re: pureenergy13]
    #18829843 - 09/11/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Why do I completely believe that hehe. 
 
I watched that vid about 6 months ago, and I didn't believe it then, and I don't believe it now.  Makes no logical sense, but that's kinda why I'm still surprised Bear himself said it.  Then again, I never met the guy, but I'd always figured that he was a pretty logical dude.




I met Bear once but didn't know it was him at the time, someone told me after. He was selling jewelry at a Dead Show. But I did spend a lot of time with the Dead's live sound crew and those guys loved getting into involved discussions of things, stuff so far out there it was hard to follow. Audio, electronics, physics, metaphysics, drugs. Some really brilliant people. They spent a lot of time on the road, in buses, at the shows talking and talking and I'm sure much of it was nicely crafted BS just to keep each other entertained. You don't call their bluff, you just enjoy it as the truth with some fiction mixed in.


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