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Invisiblestuckinwonderland
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rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience?
    #18827337 - 09/11/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so I am very aware and slightly sad that psycadelic rcs are not allowed in the psycadelic experience however despite the no exceptions thing it looks like 4 aco dmt posts are popping up and aren't being locked or moved. comments????


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #18827345 - 09/11/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard 4 aco dmt is converted to psilocin when it gets into our body

that could be why


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: stuckinwonderland] * 1
    #18827355 - 09/11/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This is the Pub where virtually no one cares about your issues, although advice will be offered. Under no circumstances should you regard the advice as trustworthy, sound, responsible, serious or otherwise useful. Terms and conditions apply. Your results may vary. If Jimmies are rustled, shortness of breath, outbursts of cursing, sweating, vomiting, nausea or diarrhea please consult your physician before using these forums. There is a no money back guarantee on all advice.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: 11nova]
    #18827372 - 09/11/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the statement on Pub Liability SoreSpore haha.

OP; I think some of the Mods think the general safety profile and mechanics/pharmacology of 4-AcO(as 11nova said; psilocin precursor) make it acceptable enough to overlook at times; if the discussion is responsible. 

The threads will still be shut down more often than not IMO; just 4-AcO is the only one whose threads are sometimes allowed to survive.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18827381 - 09/11/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No, the mods are pretty strict on what belongs and what doesn't. I've talked to cervantes and he's not okay with discussing 4-aco-dmt in that forum. I just honestly think they got tired of locking all the threads because no body was paying any attention. I've been seeing posts on ketamine, 2c'x, nbome, etc popping up more and more.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: JacksonMetaller] * 1
    #18827390 - 09/11/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

RC's belong in other drug discussion.

i've got to say though, i think any psychedelic conversation should be allowed in PE.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: Legend]
    #18827401 - 09/11/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

RC's aren't psychedelic, man. Or shroomy :snub:


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: Legend] * 2
    #18827432 - 09/11/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SoreSpore said:
RC's aren't psychedelic, man. Or shroomy :snub:




Take some 2c-e and tell me it isn't psychedelic.

Anyone think that all classical psychs, RC or otherwise, should be allowed in the PE


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18827445 - 09/11/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SoreSpore said:
RC's aren't psychedelic, man. Or shroomy :snub:



Yeah a lot of them are.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18827465 - 09/11/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SoreSpore said:
RC's aren't psychedelic, man. Or shroomy :snub:




alexander shulgin would probably disagree with ya there buddy.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: themusicofzann]
    #18827475 - 09/11/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

im really not bitching or anything I was just wondering if exceptions were clearly outlined. I wish they were allowed even if it was only safer or well known ones like 4 aco dmt :frown:. and to whomever says rcs aren't psycadelic I also must disagree which is why I wish their discussion was allowed


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18827564 - 09/11/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SoreSpore said:
RC's aren't psychedelic, man. Or shroomy :snub:




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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: stuckinwonderland] * 1
    #18827582 - 09/11/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This has always struck me as narrow-minded, drug-snobbery. Oh, you had a psychedelic experience using something other than the handful of classic psychedelics? Too bad, can't discuss it here. Take it to ODD so it can get buried amongst the discussion of stimulants, depressants, dissociatives, etc.

A psychedelic experience is just that, an EXPERIENCE. It's not about how you get there, but what you get out of it.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: mytehdogizflying]
    #18827681 - 09/11/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

PE forum allows dosage advice, ODD doesn't. It's probably safer for everyone this way.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #18827690 - 09/11/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you've got a point, dosage advice for mushrooms, or LSD isn't going to kill. but RC's well that's
another story entirely. also now that im thinking of it, i dont think we need the kind of publicity
that would come with RC talk in an open forum like the PE.


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Re: rcs allowed tn psycadelic experience? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #18827730 - 09/11/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

AlmostAsCoolAs said:
PE forum allows dosage advice, ODD doesn't. It's probably safer for everyone this way.




Agree and disagree. For newer compounds like nbome it's probably best not to allow dosage advice as we don't know a whole lot about reactions to individuals. Some take 5mg and are fine. Others take 1 and have a seizure.

For older ones, or ones presumed safe I think it's safer to allow dosage advice as it can stop people from taking too much. I think where banning dosage advice is more relevant is with drugs like opiates where many users build tolerances and have to use different amounts to achieve the same effect as others


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