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muistrue
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#18828328 - 09/11/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Are college degrees a waste of time and money these days?
So much so that I'd go so far as to say it's a scam.
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Gilgamesh18
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: muistrue]
#18828333 - 09/11/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: People who start there own business usually work by themselves for nothing 
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Bitter Cactus said: Are college degrees a waste of time and money these days?
So much so that I'd go so far as to say it's a scam.
yep its just a way to get people to take out loans and shit the real money is in starting your own business
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Patlal]
#18828334 - 09/11/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The problem is that 95% of the population think as employees. To them, the only viable way to make money is to get a job. If they can't find a job, they can't think of anything else except crime.
They seem to forget that business is the best way to go. But either they don't know what kind of business to start or they don't have the knowledge or money needed to do it.
If they can't find a job, they likely don't have relative skills. If they can't think of a business to start, they'd likely not do well if they did
I saw this national fast food worker strike recently. People all over the country demanding $15/hr for flipping burgers and running cash registers. Motherfuckers, I make $22.50/hr after taxes. That's with a lifetime of school effort, free and horribly underpaid internships, and a masters degree. To think that I've put in all that effort, and that burger flippers are literally not going to work in hopes of increasing their wage up to $15 (before tax).... it makes me sick.
So yeah, fuck that bullshit.
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muistrue
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Gilgamesh18] 2
#18828335 - 09/11/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: muistrue]
#18828346 - 09/11/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: It's 12.50 to see a movie, that's like two hours of work min. wage
Minimum wage is ten bucks in Alberta lol.
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Bitter Cactus said: Are college degrees a waste of time and money these days?
So much so that I'd go so far as to say it's a scam.
An associates degree is a fucking waste of money, they export those jobs overseas for 5 dollars (?)
Any other highly skilled/sought after job will have like 200 people turning in applications for one job.
If I get a BS at MY college I'll be alright, I'll have an o.k. wage and I can move up after a few years to make big bucks(for something that only handfuls of people graduate with every year)
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Konyap]
#18828355 - 09/11/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I get a BS at MY college I'll be alright, I'll have an o.k. wage and I can move up after a few years to make big bucks(for something that only handfuls of people graduate with every year)
GL. put in work.
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Schmendrick
Last of the Red Hot Swamis



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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: zappaisgod]
#18828385 - 09/11/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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flickedbic said: Grow your food.
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Schmendrick said: Firstly, I guess I am pretty lucky.. I am not wealthy, but I am self employed (Android app developer), own my home, land and vehicle outright and have a deep water well on my property so I have no monthly bills except electricity and trash (and I am thinking about putting in solar/wind and making burn and compost piles, so.... then there will only be taxes)... I do not feel the need to have a larger home or to compete with the joneses.. pretty happy with things actually.
I 'deserve' almost none of this... I really have been quite lucky in life. It would take too long to list all of the ways which luck has played a part in me having what I have.
Secondly, if you have a computer, internet access, and can read and understand this post, you are pretty lucky too. And you likely have no idea what real poverty is.
You deserve all of it. My parents gave me a useless college degree and 2K when I graduated. I have not been lucky. I have, however, been broke. I muddled through.
How do you figure? I am quite lazy. Yes, I am self employed, but I make nowhere near enough money to justify having the sorts of things that I have. If you put all of the honest "work" I have ever done in my life and added it all together at $25 per hour, the sum total would come out to about 10% of the value of what I own at this moment through inheritance, friends, and sheer lucky breaks.
However, I am also quite happy with it, so don't expect me to give it all away
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zappaisgod
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Schmendrick]
#18828398 - 09/11/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You don't deserve what your parents gave you? Of course you do.
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: muistrue]
#18828437 - 09/11/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Patlal]
#18828443 - 09/11/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re rate in Canada is about 60%.... so its basically the same as America minus the super ghetto inner-city people who I don't really like to include in my own statistics
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Patlal
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: zappaisgod]
#18828449 - 09/11/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dunno, I've been really fucking lucky man. When I was born, my family wasn't rich, but they are becoming really wealthy now. The luck I have been given is not that my parents have money, it's the knowledge the teach me from their experience. It's one hell of a head start in life. Soon I'll buy into my parents business and I'll follow their lead and provide whatever skill they might need.
I never understood jobs and working for a wage. I can't stand knowing that for every dollar the boss gives, he makes 10. I'm too selfish for that. I want the 10 and I'll pay you 1, that's how I work.
It's a damm shame that people with potential don't have anyone to teach them how to build a business. Personally, if I succeed in business like my parents it's going to be my duty to find a kid to take under my wings.
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Patlal
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: twighead]
#18828450 - 09/11/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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twighead said: Re rate in Canada is about 60%.... so its basically the same as America minus the super ghetto inner-city people who I don't really like to include in my own statistics 
It's actually 42%
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Patlal]
#18828469 - 09/11/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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medical 
help people, get paid. amazing quality of life and job satisfaction
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Schmendrick
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: zappaisgod]
#18828477 - 09/11/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You don't deserve what your parents gave you? Of course you do.
Why? What did I do to get it besides being born? If someone with my work ethic had been born into poor circumstances, they would likely die homeless under a bridge by the age of 25.
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twighead
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Patlal]
#18828497 - 09/11/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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twighead said: Re rate in Canada is about 60%.... so its basically the same as America minus the super ghetto inner-city people who I don't really like to include in my own statistics 
It's actually 42%
Must be a super accurate statistic because I'm reading everything from 33-66%.
Of course this survey/study just came out so its the 'official' stat for america lolol.
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zappaisgod
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Schmendrick]
#18828561 - 09/11/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You don't deserve what your parents gave you? Of course you do.
Why? What did I do to get it besides being born? If someone with my work ethic had been born into poor circumstances, they would likely die homeless under a bridge by the age of 25.
Because they are your parents. They love you. If you were a piece of shit they might tell you to fuck off.
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: twighead] 1
#18828563 - 09/11/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you do realize that if minimum wage were increased, the price of things would just go up?
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: blackglass6219]
#18828570 - 09/11/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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blackglass6219 said: you do realize that if minimum wage were increased, the price of things would just go up?
no, people completely forget this shit when they decide just giving poor people more money would fix anything.
then they go into other threads and complain about inflation.
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Gilgamesh18
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: blackglass6219]
#18828626 - 09/11/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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blackglass6219 said: you do realize that if minimum wage were increased, the price of things would just go up?
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Patlal
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: blackglass6219]
#18828639 - 09/11/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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blackglass6219 said: you do realize that if minimum wage were increased, the price of things would just go up?
Nope. Some item aren't elastic. Therefore if the price go up, the sale goes down. You have to take elasticity in account before stating that the price will go up if wages go up.
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