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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: jvm] * 1
    #18827743 - 09/11/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I believe there is probably a fairly high correlation between societal wealth and rejection of nebulous nonsense such as "spirit" and "soul".

Competition is the mother of innovation.  Get over it.  I don't want to be your pal and work with you for some nonsensical goal of unicorn oneness.  Get busy and make something other people want.  Sweat lodges and their ilk, though lucrative for some scam artists, are just that.  Scams for shmucks.


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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: jvm]
    #18827748 - 09/11/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So are any of you actually content with this type of systematic structure? Do you find yourselves not really paying much attention to it as a whole and only focus on your nuclear surroundings?

I personally see this type of system flawed when it comes to any type of spiritual or cultural evolution. I look to the past events of specific types of ideals in various societies and can kind of foresee that ultimately this type of system isn't going to last into the future due to its unstable structure. It doesn't really benefit or provide any means of overall growth for anyone personally or as a whole. It's like a system of existing outside of the natural laws of life that is more destructive as a whole rather than balanced.

I guess my expectations for people are high due to what i see as roadblocks of personal and universal potential. I've come to personally understand that there is no such thing as a pinnacle to potential energy. The ups and downs seem to be due to a cyclical nature of all things, yet i don't see this as a barrier. It's kind of like learning from the past to presently constructively create for the future in balance with natural law. I don't believe that life is intended to work for another person for money, for technological items or anything of the sort. I think collectively if we all had a similar ideal of worldwide growth by working with each other as equals instead of working against each other for superficial titles or what someone believes to be "success". I don't know if i'm in a current timeline of history that will ultimately push these current types of ideals that potentially will lead to universal growth. I personally would like to see everyone living in a vibrational state of unconditional love with each other instead of what i feel like is a game of hell for many.

No one human truly rules over another or has dominance over another, naturally. Fear of death and fear of life and its 'security' has pushed these fundamental ideals onto humanity. It's a fucking illusion and i hope one day, myself or another will discover death as  something similar to going to sleep, dreaming and waking up to prove that life itself is a gift. I think the fear of death or imprisonment truly prevents this type of potential growth. That it is scaled and reflective on all levels and that we as an individual earth is just a flash of truly everything that exists.



Thats a nice sentiment you have however the current system we have is the best we can do. It is the most fair and equitable way of providing a high standard of living.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18827885 - 09/11/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
You live in a small rural area and you think 30-40K is low? .... It's quite enough.





All I'm saying is that money is a powerful motivator. Plus, they rarely have a say in what they are able to teach. So, it's probably beyond their control - even if they were being paid more than "enough," they'd still have to follow (what I guess are federal) guidelines. Soft skills, like financial responsibility, aren't required by the guidelines and teachers already have a full plate when it comes to what they have to make sure kids can parrot back on a test. So it gets left out.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18827922 - 09/11/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:
It makes me sick hearing that an actor or actress made 30+ million dollars last year or make that each year.

Ya really need that much? Lol




Floyd Mayweather (boxer) will make a record setting 41.5 million dollars this Saturday night when he steps into the ring. Doesn't matter if he wins or loses. 12 three minute rounds (if it goes that far). 36 minutes total and by the time the final bell rings or someone gets knocked out he'll have an additional 41 and a half million dollars sitting in his bank account. Let that sink in for a second.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9662239/floyd-mayweather-record-415m-purse-finalized


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Niffla]
    #18827928 - 09/11/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Niffla said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
It makes me sick hearing that an actor or actress made 30+ million dollars last year or make that each year.

Ya really need that much? Lol




Floyd Mayweather (boxer) will make a record setting 41.5 million dollars this Saturday night when he steps into the ring. Doesn't matter if he wins or loses. 12 three minute rounds (if it goes that far). 36 minutes total and by the time the final bell rings or someone gets knocked out he'll have an additional 41 and a half million dollars sitting in his bank account. Let that sink in for a second.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9662239/floyd-mayweather-record-415m-purse-finalized



Fuck me man if I could have a measly 5 million Id be set for life


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Niffla]
    #18827934 - 09/11/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Niffla said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
It makes me sick hearing that an actor or actress made 30+ million dollars last year or make that each year.

Ya really need that much? Lol




Floyd Mayweather (boxer) will make a record setting 41.5 million dollars this Saturday night when he steps into the ring. Doesn't matter if he wins or loses. 12 three minute rounds (if it goes that far). 36 minutes total and by the time the final bell rings or someone gets knocked out he'll have an additional 41 and a half million dollars sitting in his bank account. Let that sink in for a second.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9662239/floyd-mayweather-record-415m-purse-finalized




I see nothing wrong with this. That money is only a fraction of what he made for other people. As long as people keep watching movies and sporting events that money is well deserved.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: muistrue]
    #18827938 - 09/11/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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muistrue said:
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Niffla said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
It makes me sick hearing that an actor or actress made 30+ million dollars last year or make that each year.

Ya really need that much? Lol




Floyd Mayweather (boxer) will make a record setting 41.5 million dollars this Saturday night when he steps into the ring. Doesn't matter if he wins or loses. 12 three minute rounds (if it goes that far). 36 minutes total and by the time the final bell rings or someone gets knocked out he'll have an additional 41 and a half million dollars sitting in his bank account. Let that sink in for a second.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9662239/floyd-mayweather-record-415m-purse-finalized




I see nothing wrong with this. That money is only a fraction of what he made other people. As long as people keep watching movies and sporting events that money is well deserved.




Never said there was anything wrong with it. Just saying that 41 and a half million dollars for a single night's performance is pretty fucking mind blowing.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Niffla]
    #18827944 - 09/11/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was referring to the other comment saying it made them sick that entertainers earn that much money.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: muistrue]
    #18827950 - 09/11/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I was referring to the other comment saying it made them sick that entertainers earn that much money.




:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Niffla]
    #18827985 - 09/11/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think if you spend more then half on a months rent there's something wrong with this country.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Konyap]
    #18828010 - 09/11/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
I think if you spend more then half on a months rent there's something wrong with this country.




Let's assume the average rate in the US is 7.25 per hour. Average week 40 hours. That's an average of 1256$ per month. Half of that would be 628$.

So as soon as a minimum wage worker has to pay 628$ per month, there's something wrong.

I charge 525$ per room in my house. There's no way you can get a decent apartment for under 800$ here. I dunno for you guys, but that doesn't give a lot of breathing space


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Patlal]
    #18828023 - 09/11/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't but I think you should be able to live no matter how shitty the job and I hate seeing people in my area charge so much for rent and I wonder why? If you have a son and you're a single mother there will be like 700$ small houses available but for everyone else it's bull crap. I did the math, I'd have to be working full time making 12-14 bucks an hour before I moved out. None of this dependent on other humans bullcrap...


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Patlal]
    #18828026 - 09/11/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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aiyobro said:
I think if you spend more then half on a months rent there's something wrong with this country.




Let's assume the average rate in the US is 7.25 per hour. Average week 40 hours. That's an average of 1256$ per month. Half of that would be 628$.

So as soon as a minimum wage worker has to pay 628$ per month, there's something wrong.

I charge 525$ per room in my house. There's no way you can get a decent apartment for under 800$ here. I dunno for you guys, but that doesn't give a lot of breathing space



Who cares man if you are dumb enough to squander your measly pay you deserve to be poor. Life is not fair you are supposed to work for what you have nowhere in nature does it say you deserve free housing and food! Without darwininan competion we shall fail as a species.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18828036 - 09/11/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My state charges property taxes and such, we pay health unsurance for nimrods, car insurance for people that drive their cars dangerously etc.

No where in nature do I have to pay to squat somewhere or buy food lol.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Konyap]
    #18828041 - 09/11/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's 12.50 to see a movie, that's like two hours of work min. wage


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Konyap]
    #18828044 - 09/11/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
My state charges property taxes and such, we pay health unsurance for nimrods, car insurance for people that drive their cars dangerously etc.

No where in nature do I have to pay to squat somewhere or buy food lol.



LOL all animals work for their food if you don't you starve that is a fact!


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Konyap]
    #18828049 - 09/11/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
It's 12.50 to see a movie, that's like two hours of work min. wage



Then don't go to the movies!!


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18828056 - 09/11/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
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aiyobro said:
My state charges property taxes and such, we pay health unsurance for nimrods, car insurance for people that drive their cars dangerously etc.

No where in nature do I have to pay to squat somewhere or buy food lol.



LOL all animals work for their food if you don't you starve that is a fact!



yeah, they walk around and eat plants, hunt pack animals or live in fucking trees and eat fruits.

since the dawn of civilization everybody has worked but now if you're rich you exist in a place outside of this


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Konyap]
    #18828060 - 09/11/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
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Gilgamesh18 said:
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aiyobro said:
My state charges property taxes and such, we pay health unsurance for nimrods, car insurance for people that drive their cars dangerously etc.

No where in nature do I have to pay to squat somewhere or buy food lol.



LOL all animals work for their food if you don't you starve that is a fact!



yeah, they walk around and eat plants, hunt pack animals or live in fucking trees and eat fruits.

since the dawn of civilization everybody has worked but now if you're rich you exist in a place outside of this



So what! Who cares what the rich go through. If you are hungry in a western nation you are wasting your cash on drugs or other worthless frivolities.


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Re: 76% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [Re: Konyap]
    #18828063 - 09/11/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
It's 12.50 to see a movie, that's like two hours of work min. wage




Make sure the movie is at least 2 hours long


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