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How much weed should I plan on smoking?
    #18826797 - 09/11/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dear shroomery,

It's recently come to my attention that I'm rather stressed and anxious. I mean for years. For decades. For most of my life, no doubt stemming from underlying stress and insecurities in my mother / father's lives, passed on through daily family life during childhood.

All manner of insecurities plague my psyche, and I tend to instinctively cling, agitate and buzz around excessively, which no doubt will take years off my life if continued at this pace.

This is a type of vibe that I haven't seen with weed smokers. There's a certain chill, a certain smooth flowing flow to them that I wish I had as well, but as of yet I don't. I've taken all manner of psychedelics and have only had mediocre results with weed before. However now I think on my next Holland trip I should perhaps make an effort to offer thc the proper attention it deserves, as a real green plant medicine.

How might I best go about this? I must mention I loathe tobacco, don't have a bong at the moment and have had a few weird experiences on weed, that came nowhere close to a good proper shroom or aya trip. Any advice on how to tackle this problem?


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18826803 - 09/11/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

bongs are very conservative on weed, consider getting one if you plan on using for a long time. It will save you money in the long run. I would recommend smoking only when you feel anxious at first. Then take it from there. Try to develop alternatives like going for walks as well. Exercise helps too.


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Labs4858]
    #18826856 - 09/11/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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bongs are very conservative on weed





???  Bongs pack a punch but in my experience it's less bang for your buck?


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18826862 - 09/11/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I find it to be more conservative than smoking a joint! :smile:


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Labs4858]
    #18826872 - 09/11/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I suppose that might be true.  I don't like rolling my weed, I prefer glass pieces.

A good old glass bowl will let you take small hits until you're just where you need to be, whereas with a bong the bowl tends to get burned through very quickly for an intense hit.  Or maybe I'm doing it wrong.


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Labs4858]
    #18826881 - 09/11/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I must mention that I'm not a pill popping meat eating alcohol drinking tv watching couch potato. I do know the value of exercise and good nutrition, and even meditation / breath awareness sometimes. That being said, even on my most active, sporty, fit and awesome times, I could still not shake this type of nervousness, that I see weed smokers have very well handled.

It's the rhythm with which one approaches life. I see myself approaching it too suddenly, rushed, as if I just need to be more mellow. Take my time. Smoooooooothly think things over, and then act nicely, deliberately, all in good time.

Dedicated weed smokers on this forum may find it hard to relate, as they've been living this lifestyle and are now like fish in the water, but you know that feeling when you just know this dude needs some herb to unwind?
That exact thing, I feel a lot of my life has had that exact vibe to it. Just chill for a minute, puff on this and then rethink your options, you'll feel much better  :jah:

Going to the Netherlands soon. I was planning on Ibogaine but that didn't work out yet. I think weed is the next molecule I should really look into, get some green flowing calm in my life, and paint my worries away :tongue2:


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18826900 - 09/11/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i stay high all day.. for yeaprs w/o a t-break..
i smoke out of a small glass pipe, take between 2-3,4 snaps, only pack about .1, and im good. ime/o bongs dont save weed. =] have fun


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Tonydanzawillpay]
    #18826943 - 09/11/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think smoking weed a few times on vacation is going to make you more chill.


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: grower182]
    #18826998 - 09/11/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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grower182 said:
I don't think smoking weed a few times on vacation is going to make you more chill.



How about a 3 weeks intensive course? :lol:


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18827136 - 09/11/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

From experience I never plan how much weed I need, I just keep stash so during trip I don't need to worry if it will last for whole experience. Also I like to smoke moderately throughout rather than take couple big hits and roll with it till the end.

In my opinion have as much as you can and smoke when you feel like it.


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: DoomSquirrel]
    #18827179 - 09/11/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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DoomSquirrel said:
From experience I never plan how much weed I need, I just keep stash so during trip I don't need to worry if it will last for whole experience. Also I like to smoke moderately throughout rather than take couple big hits and roll with it till the end.

In my opinion have as much as you can and smoke when you feel like it.



Sounds like a plan. I wonder if the rest of the world knows about Polish pipes, and how much they cost. I really liked the one I've seen at this random Polish guy, it seemed super effective and stealthy. If I can't find one in Holland, I'll prolly just spring for the cheapest pipe ever and use that instead. I hope pipes work without tobacco, I just need some thc.


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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18827209 - 09/11/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's funny because I'm polish and I was using polish pipes until I bought vaporizer couple days ago. They cost 1 euro each where I live, you can find them in every head shop. They are very efficient because you can control how fast you smoke it (close both side to keep smoke in pipe).


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18827223 - 09/11/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Get some edibles to be health conscious.

A vaporizer saves a lot of weed.  You can just vaporize your bowls in the sun using a magnifying glass, or hold a flame above it so only the heat is running through the green, turning it brown before you even touch flame to it.

I would start slowly, working up momentum throughout the month and maybe taking a tolerance break for a few days halfway through.


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4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18827571 - 09/11/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It took me about 3 years to learn this, but if I don't smoke I get stressed out.  I also learned the value of exercise, because I was in ROTC for 4 years, and when I just stopped doing everything this summer looking for a job, my body stopped working as well.  I had heart palpitations, which scared the shit out of me at first, but once I started exercising again, it went away like magic. 

I wouldn't recommend Ibogaine regardless of how serious your problem is, but thats just because I had a buddy in the first 3 years of college who was fighting depression after a massive dose of LSD one summer.  Without me realizing it at the time, he was approaching his psychedelic experiences with the intent of finding the answer to life, for lack of a better term.  You have to figure this shit out for yourself, IMHO, although I have no doubt psychedelics have helped many people through rough times.

THAT being said, don't use the herb as a crutch.  I've gotten to the point where I smoke for fun, after all my work is done, and not a second before (okay, maybe folding clothes and cleaning around the house is much more enjoyable stoned :jah:).  I definitely feel like it could help your problem, but I've also heard of many people who feel anxiety and paranoia while high.  Different strokes, so I'd recommend giving it a shot.  It could just exacerbate your problem, or it could be a welcome relief from it.

I'd also buy a good amount at a time (saves money in the long run).  I used to have an ounce last an entire semester, when I was smoking only on weekends, but now I think I could put away an ounce a month.  As for smoking apparati, if you're health conscious, get a vape (VOLCANOS FTFW).  If volcanoes weren't so damn expensive I'd have one, but I can't wait to get a bong!

You'll just have to play it by ear broseph, good luck!


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: pureenergy13]
    #18827710 - 09/11/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, come to think of it, I know this dude in Holland that has a pretty fly vape, I suspect I shall put it to good use when we meet :lol:

I think all my current problems are completely circumstantial. There's nothing wrong with my head per se, I'm just in the wrong context. By nature I'm a psy painter, I'd thrive to no end if I were in South America somewhere, working with other similar-minded artists, but as of yet I didn't manage to get my arse over there, so things are a bit meh for me. This leads to stress and nervousness. Moderate amounts of weed might be the temporary solution, to be able to push through this stuff. Will test and report how it goes.


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Spacerific] * 1
    #18827811 - 09/11/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hash oil, is a whole different high, wax love.  <--- opinion


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18827879 - 09/11/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

First, let me say I didn't read through every post, so this may of already gotten addressed.

In my experience, if you have chronic stress and anxiety, weed is the opposite of what you need. If you smoke it conservatively when you get bad panic attacks, it'll be fine and help you. But if you start habitually smoking it, it can worsen your anxiety a lot.

I've had chronic anxiety most of my life and after being an every day smoker for the past year, my anxiety is horrible. If I stop weed, I get panic attacks all day long, I can't eat any food, I get depressed, I can't sleep and I feel like dying. On top of this, weed has also introduced paranoia into my life, so I'm not just anxious, I'm paranoid.

I'm not trying to speak negatively to weed, I love it. But know that if you have bad anxiety, you may end up either having to become a daily smoker to deal with the negative side effects or you'll have to deal with worse anxiety than when you started.

Again, this doesn't happen to everybody; but I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the side effects that can happen when you combine weed+anxiety. This isn't an isolated case either, many of my smoker friends who had anxiety now have the same or similar daily effects as me.

If you just want anxiety relief, here's a few things that help me deal with daily anxiety: Two cups of green tea a day (it's healthy too!), burning incense, cutting down on caffeine and meditating. Obviously there's a lot more that you can do, but those are some simple things I try to do on a daily basis to keep control of my anxiety. I also try and hippie flip a few times a year. It helps me keep a fresh a clear outlook on life. No more than 4 times though, the negative side effects of MDMA overuse is chronic depression. Which is the opposite of what you want.


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: eMpire420]
    #18827927 - 09/11/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well there's more reasons to not smoke a whole lot of weed daily. Chief of them being the pothead effect :lol: I mean I'm ineffective enough as it is, if I become a dedicated pothead and then just chill all day watching Daffy Duck cartoons, then obviously that's a bit counterproductive.

I don't have serious chronic anxiety nor panic attacks, I just don't particularly like the speed I function at. Just seems slightly too nervous. I'd like my default setting perhaps a notch or two more towards mellow.

Surely some things other than weed help as well. Exercising. Socializing. Philosophy, reading and watching videos about it, and then taking time out to actually think things through. The analyzed life, that goes a long long way. That being said, in the same way that mushrooms make you dance and move a bit more free, it's my impression that weed makes you slow down, mellow out and sail a bit smoother around life's corners. I've dodged and avoided it for years, always preferring psychedelics, but I don't think they do the same thing.

Should definitely be an interesting stay in the Netherlands, that's for sure  :bigjoint:


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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18828375 - 09/11/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Go to your local headshop, and ask for something that looks like this:
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1097807227/New-Click-N-Vape-Portable-font-b-Herbal-b-font-Vaporizer-Wind-Proof-Torch-Lighter-Velvet.jpg

You put your weed (bud) in it, and then you click a button that activates a built in torch lighter - you then breathe in, and you will get some nice hits.

And then you should get a small bong too, something just for personal use. If you got these two things (probably for less than a total of $60), you will have a few good options for smoking.

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Re: How much weed should I plan on smoking? [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18828463 - 09/11/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Vapor Brothers vaporizer, or edibles. You're welcome


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