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Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects
    #18826427 - 09/11/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I was reading this article and it pointed out to me something, which had been obvious yet I had been afraid of acknowledging: http://www.greatgenius.com/cwmhs-higher-self-and-illness

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Yes, but I remember the time I got the flu in the middle of summer. How could my body become infected unless there was a source of it floating around somewhere?

This ‘flu’ you received was a disconnect from source energy. If you recall what was in your experience at that time, you will remember there were many self–critical thoughts, among them, an unworthy feeling connected with money and work. The ‘flu’ was the dominant thought stream in your consciousness regarding illness at the time, and so the ‘flu’ manifested that way in the cells of your body because it was a match to how you were feeling and thinking at the time. You will recall that your symptoms were mild and did not last long, because the activated vibration was not so powerful.

Well I don’t remember that, I’ll take your word on it. But I don’t accept that there is no such thing as a virus. They magnify them in microscopes and when they are injected into lab animals, all sorts of horrible effects occur.

We are not saying that that there is no such thing as the cellular mass which manifests and is called ‘virus.’ But the manifestation of that virus is brought about solely by the consciousness directing the cellular mass of the virus, and the thought stream of all of those exposed to the virus. The harmful effects caused by the virus are a perfect match to the thought stream of the virus and to the thoughts of those who are vibrationally resonating to the virus.






At one point in history as we wind back, there was no such thing as a virus. A virus was total fiction, and would be subject to the same ridicule as Russel's Teapot.

No, I am not talking about the last 200 years, nor of the last 400 years. I am talking about the point before Earth even existed, before biological life even existed. To put this into context, once-upon-a-time gravity and Strong-ElectroWeak were both fictitious forces operating on a Real Unity.


Somewhere further along the time-stream, the notion of a virus was held in some form of consciousness, whether animated biological life or inanimate matter life. Thus the virus was engineered; of course self-replicating code is something one would come to expect as being a basic function in a particular adaptive system.


The important thing is that all viruses onwards are inherently designed, drawn, laid out by our Self. The collective bullshit of mankind would have the ripple effect of setting a particular genetic switch somewhere or other, so as to induce destruction upon destruction.


Just some fruit for thought :levitate:


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: crkhd]
    #18826444 - 09/11/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't agree. I think you can actually get sick and die and that's it. It doesn't matter whether you recognize an illness as a supernatural phenomenon or not. You can get the illness and it'll make you ill and that's it.


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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: LittleDipster]
    #18826498 - 09/11/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I found that whole article really interesting, and it's actually something that has been on my mind for a while now. 

I got sick, really quite sick almost 2 years ago now.  And it coincided with a really negative point in my life.  The doctor couldn't figure out what was wrong with me and I pretty much had to self-diagnose.  After hours searching the internet I realised I had systemic candidiasis and began to treat myself naturally with herbs  and eventually a whole lifestyle change.  About a month before I really realised I was sick I had started meditating regularly, and I just had this nagging feeling that my illness wasn't just physical, and was in fact down to my negative attitude. 

For a while I alternated between believing it was purely physical and believing it was spiritual and energy related.  I did a lot of things wrong to start with and things actually got worse, I just couldn't drag myself out of this negative hole.  I wasn't getting any better so I carried on searching for things that could be causing the candida.

It eventually transpired I had a serious case of ascaris (a large parasitic roundworm) that had spread throughout my body, including into my head/sinuses.  One of my main symptoms has been continuous head pressure located right in the centre of my head, a few inches behind my eyes and nose.  I began treating them with some medication I bought on the internet, and instantly my energy levels start to return to normal and the pressure in my head improved (but still remains to some extent). 

The trouble is, they are really hard to get rid of.  You can feel them moving around your body and it's really quite disturbing, and people become (as I did) obsessed with trying to get rid of them.  However, what I found really interesting is that whenever I start thinking about the worms, they suddenly start moving.  Also, numerous other people online have noted that when they are researching, looking at pictures of them online, trying to find cures etc, the worms react!!  I mean, how could they possibly know?? It's crazy. 

And then I start thinking about the concept of a parasite.  A parasite steals your energy.  I once looked up the dream interpretation for a worm, and it's symbolic for negativity.

But they are here, and it's very very difficult to stop thinking about them.  I have to eat a very restrictive diet and cannot eat 95% of things sold in a supermarket (this is no exaggeration).  I have given up so many things that I used to rely on, smoking, drinking etc.  And I've known all along it is just a massive lesson.  My whole life I taken everything for granted. I have not appreciated what I have, so the universe has taken it away from me until I really start being thankful for what I have.

I've had the suspicion for months and months that the only way I am going to beat these worms and candida is to STOP FOCUSING ON THEM, and focus on all the good things.  And wow, from when I started this bit of my journey 2 years ago, I really have come a long way.  But I'm still not sure I can get over this final hurdle.  I'm scared to try to be honest because what if it is all bullshit?  What if the only way is to treat it with meds and I end up making it worse?  But I don't think that's the case, at least I hope not.

I've always wondered how the worms will just go "poof" and vanish when I start getting it right.    Here's hoping that the article is telling the truth.  Thanks for posting it, I have a feeling it's exactly what I needed to hear right now. 

(Sorry for the ramble!)


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The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
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The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: crkhd]
    #18826748 - 09/11/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like you OP, but the flu is around all year.. :ohwell:


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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: Yogi1]
    #18827166 - 09/11/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you should see a dr about the worms man. im pretty sure they can do more then thinking positively about it :shrug:


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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: PocketLady]
    #18827172 - 09/11/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To the other guys: Sorry for your loss, these are bittersweet words to read

PocketLady:

You have a few options:

Dr Hulda Clark: http://www.scribd.com/doc/21977520/SHEMA-555-Hulda-Regehr-Clark-The-Cure-for-All-Diseases
(zap them out electrically)

In this text she goes into meticulous detail regarding the origin of these issues and how to deal with them. These parasites are mind-controlling agents. Of course, all the bacteria inhabiting the body are mind-controlling us anyway! It's very important to be good friends with the creatures living in your body because if they are your enemies it probably is not going to be helping your Self.
The worms are neither friends nor enemies... they are soldiers. Be warned.



Humaworm parasite detox: a formulation of 40+ herbs which will expel all of them, look it up


Spiritual celibacy/abstinence: (Brahmacharya)
Ultimately this is the true Safeguard and you are on here to seek enlightenment I hope.

The good thing is that this is the age of mass-enlightenment, all human beings can reach Nirvikalpa if the words of prior gurus such as Sri Mataji are anything to go by.


In an enlightened body the environment would intrinsically be hostile to such parasitic creatures. They like to feast on the filthy and as limited human beings we do have a tendency to dive into filth every now and then. An enlightened being presents vibrations of total clarity: you would expel these parasites by bombarding their senses with negativity. Right now the negative energy you feel is what they themselves feel as positive vibes. Flip it around!


Ultimately this points in the direction of a single book encompassing all such teachings which explains the intricacies in pure depth. Please PM me if you feel ready to discuss as such.


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: crkhd]
    #18827184 - 09/11/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Excuse me for being skeptical but that article mentions uri geller as someone with legimitate psychic powers and yet he was unable to perform when on the johnny carson show when johnny supplied all the props.

I am not saying miracles are impossible but what credibility does this source have if they are using suspected frauds as examples for us to aspire toward?


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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: Deviate]
    #18827655 - 09/11/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Deviate said:
Excuse me for being skeptical but that article mentions uri geller as someone with legimitate psychic powers and yet he was unable to perform when on the johnny carson show when johnny supplied all the props.

I am not saying miracles are impossible but what credibility does this source have if they are using suspected frauds as examples for us to aspire toward?




I don't know about Uri Geller but from my experience of similar powers, it is all about Intention. We can use our mouths to talk but simply put, there is a big fuck off smorgasbord of EM wave exchange floating right above our heads leaking out from our neurons. The matter is decided in this smorgasbord long before Uri Geller transfers his boner energy to the spoon.


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Collective hallucination: How sufficient agreement results in physically REAL tangible objects [Re: crkhd]
    #18831125 - 09/12/13 03:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

crkhd said:
PocketLady:

You have a few options:

Dr Hulda Clark: http://www.scribd.com/doc/21977520/SHEMA-555-Hulda-Regehr-Clark-The-Cure-for-All-Diseases
(zap them out electrically)

In this text she goes into meticulous detail regarding the origin of these issues and how to deal with them. These parasites are mind-controlling agents. Of course, all the bacteria inhabiting the body are mind-controlling us anyway! It's very important to be good friends with the creatures living in your body because if they are your enemies it probably is not going to be helping your Self.
The worms are neither friends nor enemies... they are soldiers. Be warned.

Humaworm parasite detox: a formulation of 40+ herbs which will expel all of them, look it up

Spiritual celibacy/abstinence: (Brahmacharya)
Ultimately this is the true Safeguard and you are on here to seek enlightenment I hope.

The good thing is that this is the age of mass-enlightenment, all human beings can reach Nirvikalpa if the words of prior gurus such as Sri Mataji are anything to go by.

In an enlightened body the environment would intrinsically be hostile to such parasitic creatures. They like to feast on the filthy and as limited human beings we do have a tendency to dive into filth every now and then. An enlightened being presents vibrations of total clarity: you would expel these parasites by bombarding their senses with negativity. Right now the negative energy you feel is what they themselves feel as positive vibes. Flip it around!

Ultimately this points in the direction of a single book encompassing all such teachings which explains the intricacies in pure depth. Please PM me if you feel ready to discuss as such.




Yeah I'm fairly familiar with Dr Hulda Clark and her work.  I've considered getting a zapper, not sure what's stopping me really. And unfortunately I'm in the UK, and Humaworm won't send their products here.  I've already been down the herb route to be honest, but because my parasites are scattered over the body it's hard to reach them with herbs.  Herbs only tend to be strong enough to work in the gut. 

I've played with the ideas you talk about a few times. Not treating them as the enemy so that I stop creating a battle within myself.  And yeah, I'm sure the key to this is just getting to the point where I am content and happy even though they are present, and I really am getting there. It's just a slow process.  I know that by focusing my attention on them I am somehow keeping them here. 

Thanks for the info though, very interesting.


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Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity.
The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
The heart that is not in love will fail the test.

~ Rumi



The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir


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