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OfflineIT-IS-OUR-RIGHT
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Keep Trying
    #18826027 - 09/11/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I Feel Like The Shroom Movement is a lost cause should I keep trying or just accept the fact that shrooms are always gonna be illegal. Whats your opinion on the matter. If you don't know what I am talking about visit my other thread "The Shroom Movement".


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: IT-IS-OUR-RIGHT] * 1
    #18826038 - 09/11/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

We've got a long way to go before legal shrooms man, there isn't anything that you're going to be able to do besides inform as many people you can, especially when you hear or see bad misconceptions.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18826078 - 09/11/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i like this thread title a lot. so, yeah, go go go. legal shrooms would be quite a blessing.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18826280 - 09/11/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"Mush4Brains", If I get enough people at least in the U.S. and Canada to join The Shroom Movement and protest on the same day (November 9th 2013) then maybe it'll become legal much like how the legalization for medical use of marijuana has been spead up because of 420. Im just one person though. I don't think ill be able to get enough support. My efforts are probably pointless beyond extent.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: IT-IS-OUR-RIGHT] * 2
    #18826370 - 09/11/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There'd have to be a lot more than just one protest/rally/demonstration before they were legalised. Look at how many years and how much effort it took to get this far with marijuana.

I say if you can get enough people together over time, then your one man efforts would be the beginning of something much bigger.

But there's a hell of a lot more people that are pro-pot than people who know anything about psychedelics. People do need to be educated first. That's your first step.

Don't give up. These things take time.

And it's about time there was another wave in the psychedelic movement.



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Re: Keep Trying [Re: IT-IS-OUR-RIGHT]
    #18826391 - 09/11/13 03:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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IT-IS-OUR-RIGHT said:
I Feel Like The Shroom Movement is a lost cause should I keep trying or just accept the fact that shrooms are always gonna be illegal. Whats your opinion on the matter. If you don't know what I am talking about visit my other thread "The Shroom Movement".




I've been formulating the ideal way to start a mass-information, viral movement on this front over the last few months. When I figure out what to do about resources to get it going, you'll see me posting about it so stick around the boards bud.

Also, if you don't like something, don't resign yourself to disappointment; FIX THAT SHIT. You seem to be this kind of person though, if a safe assumption can be gotten from your name. Would you be interested in either working with me to develop this or to perhaps let me hand it off to you?

I think this is very important.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: IT-IS-OUR-RIGHT]
    #18826434 - 09/11/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm getting riled up and excited at the thought of this, myself.

Perhaps accumulating information on mushrooms and why they should be legal and making a series of flyers, printing out a huge amount and spreading them all around your city, parking lots, mailboxes, telegraph poles, stores, malls, throwing them out skyscraper windows and so on. Make the flyers available here on the shroomery and on other websites, gaining their support so other people can do the same would be a way to start.

Starting an official website of your own dedicated to the cause, perhaps paying a developer to do it for you professionally.

Keeping persistent, think up new ways to spread the word and the knowledge and more people will pick it up. Organise rallys in different areas, high population areas are likely to get more attention.

:peace:


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Into The Woods]
    #18826445 - 09/11/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Into The Woods said:
I'm getting riled up and excited at the thought of this, myself.

Perhaps accumulating information on mushrooms and why they should be legal and making a series of flyers, printing out a huge amount and spreading them all around your city, parking lots, mailboxes, telegraph poles, stores, malls, throwing them out skyscraper windows and so on. Make the flyers available here on the shroomery and on other websites, gaining their support so other people can do the same would be a way to start.

Starting an official website of your own dedicated to the cause, perhaps paying a developer to do it for you professionally.

Keeping persistent, think up new ways to spread the word and the knowledge and more people will pick it up. Organise rallys in different areas, high population areas are likely to get more attention.

:peace:




One of the first things I realized when I started thinking about solving this problem is that especially early on, BREADTH is the answer, not depth. We need MILLIONS of people to have a seed planted that imparts in them the notion that maybe shrooms aren't that bad, not a few thousand people learning to overcome their misconceptions.

I've already got a great idea, as concerns your propaganda propagation, for how this could be accomplished in a way that's enticing and perhaps even lends itself to being viral although my optimism at this latter possibility may be unwarranted.

If we get in depth about ideas, I'll go ahead and say what my strategy idea was. Else, I'll save it until it's ready to actually be put into effect.




A little off topic but intimately related: I wonder if we'll see "medical [psilocybe] mushrooms" as the baby step preceding legalization as a recreational drug. I could totally see them being loosened up on by positing them as a "therapeutic" drug of a more traditionally psychological type of "therapeutic" rather than the psychotropic and pharmaceutical kind of "therapeutic" that helped allow weed to gain traction in getting out from under tyrannical law.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: st1llnox] * 1
    #18826489 - 09/11/13 04:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think one of the main reasons for cannabis legalisation is the enormous commercial potential. Lots of different strains, lots of methods of ingestion. And there are lots of different sub-cultures (from rap to stonerdoom)where the sticky stuff plays a big role.

It's a shame, imo mushrooms (and most psychedelics) have in general much more to offer than cannabis...

The best you can do I think is to inform as many people around you as you can about psychedelics and all the lies about them.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Brambolinie]
    #18826530 - 09/11/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Start making pamphlets and handing them out on college campuses :shrug:

You'll need as much science as possible.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18826540 - 09/11/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It already is used in clinical trials.....st1llnox have you actually done mushrooms?


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: st1llnox]
    #18826592 - 09/11/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think one of the main reasons for cannabis legalisation is the enormous commercial potential. Lots of different strains, lots of methods of ingestion. And there are lots of different sub-cultures (from rap to stonerdoom)where the sticky stuff plays a big role.

It's a shame, imo mushrooms (and most psychedelics) have in general much more to offer than cannabis...

The best you can do I think is to inform as many people around you as you can about psychedelics and all the lies about them.




There's plenty of variations of mushroom species and methods of consumption too.  And you'll notice as you spend more time on these boards, there's people from all walks of life that share this interest, not limited to a bunch of hippies. :wink:

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One of the first things I realized when I started thinking about solving this problem is that especially early on, BREADTH is the answer, not depth. We need MILLIONS of people to have a seed planted that imparts in them the notion that maybe shrooms aren't that bad, not a few thousand people learning to overcome their misconceptions.

I've already got a great idea, as concerns your propaganda propagation, for how this could be accomplished in a way that's enticing and perhaps even lends itself to being viral although my optimism at this latter possibility may be unwarranted.

If we get in depth about ideas, I'll go ahead and say what my strategy idea was. Else, I'll save it until it's ready to actually be put into effect.




A little off topic but intimately related: I wonder if we'll see "medical [psilocybe] mushrooms" as the baby step preceding legalization as a recreational drug. I could totally see them being loosened up on by positing them as a "therapeutic" drug of a more traditionally psychological type of "therapeutic" rather than the psychotropic and pharmaceutical kind of "therapeutic" that helped allow weed to gain traction in getting out from under tyrannical law.




Absolutely! I can definitely see a lot of hope in that. :thumbup:

And I'm very intrigued to hear this idea of yours...


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Fire is Born] * 1
    #18826622 - 09/11/13 05:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It already is used in clinical trials.....st1llnox have you actually done mushrooms?




Yes it is, all the more to help further the cause!

If an organization such as MAPS could support this, it'd certainly lend credibility.

St1llnox's heart is in the right place with this, whether he's particularly experienced with mushrooms or not.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Into The Woods]
    #18826645 - 09/11/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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And you'll notice as you spend more time on these boards, there's people from all walks of life that share this interest, not limited to a bunch of hippies. :wink:




I know, thats why I like this forum so much :grin:.

A lot of people (stoners included) I meet are very uninformed and have all these misconceptions about psychedelics. So I think the best way for legislation is bringing the therapeutic properties to the public.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: st1llnox]
    #18827876 - 09/11/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"st1llnox", If you need help starting what your trying to do just let me know. I already got a blog trying to inform people and spread the word, an amateur website reverting to the blog and a amateur video on youtube and a facebook page for the event. I think its time I make a brochure and go public. I would be very interested in hearing your idea.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Fire is Born] * 1
    #18827958 - 09/11/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"Fire is Born", I am in no way trying to start an argument. I am merely stating that you don't need to have done shrooms even if you aren't planning on ever doing shrooms to be all for the legalization of a harmless substance that has many medicinal benefits.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: IT-IS-OUR-RIGHT]
    #18828230 - 09/11/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Keep trying man, building up momentum will be the hard part but once you've done that you just got to keep it rolling. Printing out pamphlets is a good idea maybe even print out some large posters and start wheat pasting them around you city and make contacts in other cities to do the same. It will take time to get this moving but don't give up. I might do some research tonight and see if I can figure out some way to help you out in getting the word out there


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: Brambolinie]
    #18828246 - 09/11/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think one of the main reasons for cannabis legalisation is the enormous commercial potential.




i think it works that way in the black market to, weed is just very profitable compared to shrooms

i remember when i first started smoking weed, my dealer would say shit like , you could fall asleep on mushrooms and never wake up, best to just stick to weed


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: IT-IS-OUR-RIGHT]
    #18828371 - 09/11/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Fire is Born said:
It already is used in clinical trials.....st1llnox have you actually done mushrooms?




Yes it is, all the more to help further the cause!

If an organization such as MAPS could support this, it'd certainly lend credibility.

St1llnox's heart is in the right place with this, whether he's particularly experienced with mushrooms or not.




Even if I try shrooms and it's the worst experience of my life, I cannot, as someone who considers himself to be scientifically-minded and socially-devoted, find any reason I shouldn't push alongside you all for this almost entirely harmless fungus to be decriminalized and then legalized.

Thanks for acknowledging that I don't need to have tried them to be able to see that something is wrong with how our current world is handling them. Whether shrooms are for me or not, I'll be fighting at you guys' side until this is taken care of.

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"st1llnox", If you need help starting what your trying to do just let me know. I already got a blog trying to inform people and spread the word, an amateur website reverting to the blog and a amateur video on youtube and a facebook page for the event. I think its time I make a brochure and go public. I would be very interested in hearing your idea.




I'll go ahead and spill the beans:

The first thing we need to do is get it on people's minds so they think about it and also so that as they're exposed to talk/mention of it more and more, they become less uncomfortable with the whole concept. This latter part is important to tear down the dirty mystique hallucinogens have with people.

Getting extremely broad, but admittedly shallow, exposure is therefore what I think needs to be the first step, although shooting for giving people depth in understanding as well is something we need to do and that there's no reason not to start on at the same time, especially if the more "shallow" efforts lead people to want to dig deeper.

Congruent with the need to pique people's interest broadly and give them a little exposure, my idea is a branding campaign, a la "LEGALIZE MAGIC.ORG" or "MAGIC IS NOT A CRIME.ORG" that is vague and interesting enough that it will get them interested and then when they check it out, BOOM, they just got their first bit of retraining and exposure to this misunderstood aspect of the human experience.

Furthermore, this circumvents the obstacle that practically NOBODY (knows that they) want[s] to learn more about psilocybin, but when they get to the site expecting some crazed Harry Potter fan or overzealous Long Island Medium fan, they instead are met with something they didn't even realize was an issue worth bringing up.

I think most people that are against shrooms probably don't think they're even something most drug users would seek out, as hallucinogens are particularly misunderstood drugs.


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Re: Keep Trying [Re: st1llnox]
    #18828396 - 09/11/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

420 is for pot

What number is for shrooms?


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