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MichMushie
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ID Request from Michigan
#18825664 - 09/10/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found these last saturday after a few good days of much needed rain. The caps were between 1.5 and 4 inches. Any info is very appreciated.
Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
It was groing in soil near a small river in SE Michigan. Temp was around 75 with high humidity.
Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Gills looked pink in color.
Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Spore print color: Very important!
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.





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Ganzig
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: MichMushie]
#18825674 - 09/10/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, they are an agaricus sp. They look friggin tasty. Did they bruise yellow?
What is their smell at the base of the stem when you crush it?
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paracelsus



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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: MichMushie]
#18825690 - 09/10/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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maybe Leucocoprinus
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Ganzig
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: paracelsus]
#18825699 - 09/10/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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paracelsus said: maybe Leucocoprinus
No way. Good guess though
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: paracelsus]
#18825701 - 09/10/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They are definitely an Agaricus of some kind. Leucocoprinus don't have pink gills.
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Edited by maynardjameskeenan (09/10/13 10:44 PM)
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paracelsus



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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: paracelsus]
#18825724 - 09/10/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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paracelsus said: maybe Leucocoprinus
I meant Leucoagaricus
Yeah!
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paracelsus



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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: paracelsus]
#18825726 - 09/10/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Americana
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paracelsus



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maynardjameskeenan said: Leucocoprinus don't have pink gills.
Pink hues with age.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: paracelsus]
#18825765 - 09/10/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What color are the gills of Leucoagaricus americanus?
"Free from the stem; close; white when young; staining pinkish to reddish brown."
"Lamellae Gills free, close to crowded, broad, up to 1.0 cm wide, white to cream, the edges bruising pinkish-orange, becoming tawny-brown; lamellulae up to four-seried."
Show me a source that says they turn pink with age. To me a pink "hue" and "staining" pink is different then full pink/purple gills. I bet if those mushrooms were older the gills would look almost black.
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Ganzig
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: paracelsus]
#18825809 - 09/10/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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paracelsus said:
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paracelsus said: maybe Leucocoprinus
I meant Leucoagaricus
Yeah!

Even better guess but still wrong.
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loco801
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: Ganzig]
#18826090 - 09/11/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agaricus campestris is my guess. The sandy soils kinda throw me off though
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: loco801]
#18826268 - 09/11/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some kind of agaricus for sure, they look exactly like the a. subrufescens I've grown in the past, but I don't think those grow in your area. What do they smell like? Do you notice any yellow staining on the base of the stem or on the cap? They're some meaty bastards, that's for sure.
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fry day


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I am calling definitely agaricus - look at the blocky shape of the buttons, etc.
How large are they? Perhaps they are Agaricus augustus (The Prince), and if so, they are mighty freakin' tasty. Those caps look pretty large to me. And prime. If the gills are pinkish, that's young and super prime. Darker chocolate gills mean older shrooms.
OP - sniff the top of the caps - any almond odor? Now, crush the bottom of a stipe - sniff again - almond? Note any yellow staining/bruising on the bottom of the stipe after you've mashed it. Lotsa bright yellow? Just a little?
Slice one in half - note odor and yellow bruising/staining again, particularly at the base of the stipe.
If they are LARGE > 8" or so, with a little hollow in the center of the sliced stipe, and IF the yellow bruising is not severe, and IF you get an almond odor...
EAT 'EM!!! Y'know the drill - take a smaller open one and saute it up and munch it. If in a few hours your tummy is good, harvest all open/almost open caps - let the buttons grow up. You could saute and freeze or dry.
I would have already grabbed all that were ready. 
Caveat - I'm in oregon, you'll have to check the species for your area...
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Edited by fry day (09/11/13 05:57 PM)
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Byrain

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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: MichMushie]
#18829062 - 09/11/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MichMushie said: Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
It was groing in soil near a small river in SE Michigan. Temp was around 75 with high humidity.
Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Gills looked pink in color.
Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Spore print color: Very important!
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
Very important please complete the id template to the best of your abilities. I'll give you an hint, the last two sections are especially important in this case. Also try staining it with KOH if you have it.
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Ganzig said: Well, they are an agaricus sp.
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They look friggin tasty. Did they bruise yellow?
They kind of look like the phenolic yellow stainers to me, but its hard to tell from a picture like that.
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MichMushie
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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: Byrain]
#18830374 - 09/11/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, sorry for the little info regarding the defining characteristics. I did not bring any home with me. Hopefully there are more when I go back Saturday or Sunday. It is close by and could maybe check tomorrow morning. I did not notice any bruising or strong odor when I ran into them walking my dog. I just saw them there and thought to check them out. Good thing I did. Hopefully I will find some more and get some prints and accurate measurements. Will keep updated.
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fry day


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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: MichMushie]
#18830429 - 09/11/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They'll be no good by Sat/Sun. If you want 'em you should grab the ready ones in the am and put 'em on ice...
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B H O



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Re: ID Request from Michigan [Re: MichMushie]
#18869119 - 09/20/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What river if you don't mind me asking?
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