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magnesium
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Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub
#18825245 - 09/10/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I followed Hawks 50/50 casing tek and made a mini monotub. I am new to this hobby but it appears people colonize their tub for at least 10 days or until the top layer is completely white.
However with a 50/50 casing (verm/peat/lime) there is no nutritious layer on top, so should I fruit it right after I mix the spawn and put the top casing layer?
I let it colonize for 3-4 days until a few bits of white poked through and then I started fruiting it.
Another question::: How can I raise humidity level in my minitub. I followed Doc_T's tek, with 1/4" holes every 2 inches. There is no condensation on the side of the tub and it seems like it is going to dry out with all the holes.
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: magnesium]
#18825270 - 09/10/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think it would have been ready for fruiting after such a short period. I just did my first tub and even with a 1:1 spawn ratio I'm giving it 2 weeks. It's completely white on top and throughout, but I see one or two spots through the sides that aren't yet colonized. I might be wrong, but isn't peat nutritive?
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: refried]
#18825310 - 09/10/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm new to this but here my observations...
I ended up casing some grains before my cakes had finally consolidated and I did one fundamental thing wrong with the casings. I put them out to fruit WAY to early and I followed the same thing you did as "once a few pockets come through it'll be fine." Well it ended up becoming a trich farm and I once again cased two more trays, this time allowing them to fully colonize. One tray is already a week through and it's only broken about 60% of the surface. It's the same with a brf cake. you need the mycelium to have a grab on the surface material or else contams will beat it to the surface and not allow the mycelium to fruit. Fruiting requires the mycelium to want to reproduce. It won't do it until a)it doesn't have anything else to puts its energy to or b) it's just not in the right conditions to fruit.
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: magnesium]
#18825382 - 09/10/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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magnesium said: I followed Hawks 50/50 casing tek and made a mini monotub. I am new to this hobby but it appears people colonize their tub for at least 10 days or until the top layer is completely white.
However with a 50/50 casing (verm/peat/lime) there is no nutritious layer on top, so should I fruit it right after I mix the spawn and put the top casing layer?
I let it colonize for 3-4 days until a few bits of white poked through and then I started fruiting it.
What is the substrate?
What did you apply the casing layer too?
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magnesium said: Another question::: How can I raise humidity level in my minitub. I followed Doc_T's tek, with 1/4" holes every 2 inches. There is no condensation on the side of the tub and it seems like it is going to dry out with all the holes.
Mist/fan the substrate or it will dry out.
Mist it directly with a fine mist until it glistens, then fan out the chamber.
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: PussyFart]
#18825422 - 09/10/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I layered 1.5 quarts of spawn with 2 quarts of verm/peat.
I also placed wax paper over the top to bring up the humidity, but I'll take that out and try to mist/fan it to a more proper humidity...
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: magnesium]
#18825478 - 09/10/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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magnesium said: I layered 1.5 quarts of spawn with 2 quarts of verm/peat.
What was the spawn? Grains or cakes?
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magnesium said: I also placed wax paper over the top to bring up the humidity, but I'll take that out and try to mist/fan it to a more proper humidity...
So you applied a wax paper casing to cased spawn in a monotub.....ok.....
Remove the wax paper and leave it off.
Mist/fan the substrate multiple times a day....Monotubs are meant to be set and forget only when you have bulk substrate material in them, not just cased spawn...
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: PussyFart]
#18825517 - 09/10/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spawn was WBS. Wax paper was put on a few hours ago just to try it. I guess experimentation is the only way I learn to cultivate better. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: magnesium]
#18825554 - 09/10/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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magnesium said: Spawn was WBS. Wax paper was put on a few hours ago just to try it. I guess experimentation is the only way I learn to cultivate better. Thanks for the help.
. You can learn from other people's mistakes. There are much better and easier ways to grow mushrooms than the way you are going about it. Just do some reading on here and don't be reading 10 year old stuff. Nowadays a lot of us like to take colonized grain and spawn it to pasteurized coir verm and gypsum in a monotub. It's so easy and works really well
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: Stromrider]
#18825608 - 09/10/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said:
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magnesium said: Spawn was WBS. Wax paper was put on a few hours ago just to try it. I guess experimentation is the only way I learn to cultivate better. Thanks for the help.
. You can learn from other people's mistakes. There are much better and easier ways to grow mushrooms than the way you are going about it. Just do some reading on here and don't be reading 10 year old stuff. Nowadays a lot of us like to take colonized grain and spawn it to pasteurized coir verm and gypsum in a monotub. It's so easy and works really well
The tub in question is just something I did with a leftover couple of jars to keep me busy while my g2g'd jars colonize. I definitely plan to use coir/verm (Damion's Tek) once that is ready to go. Thanks.
Edited by magnesium (09/10/13 10:04 PM)
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Re: Confused when to fruit a 50/50 casing tub [Re: magnesium]
#18825835 - 09/10/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds good. Hey check out FrankHorrigans teks
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