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"Letting go"..?
    #18824800 - 09/10/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So i'm really seeking some advice about "letting go". For those that don't know what I mean, i'm talking about while under the influence of shrooms at a peak moment of the trip, you let yourself go 100% into the experience. I have some "minor" anxiety issues that cause me to fight the trip to an extent and I find it hard to just let it totally take over my whole entire body and go with the flow.
I've had trips where the peak is so strong, that I mentally try to
hold onto reality, even though I made the decision to leave reality with the mushrooms. I want to be able to let it ride out and let it totally 100% take over and be relaxed throughout the experience but it's like my mind wont allow so. What methods do some of you guys do to be able to let yourself go into the trip? ANY tips are welcome, im beyond fed up with myself not being able to do so. Thanks in advance guys:mushroom2::peace:


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18824821 - 09/10/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Higher dose, weed, sometime alcohol soothes anxiety,

Or,

Try challenge the anxiety at the source ,

The mushrooms are trying to STRip you of your ego,who you are.

Are you not being true to yourself!?come to terms with what you really want out of life


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18824841 - 09/10/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with Agentchewy. I think you should challenge your anxiety, maybe think about how absurd the anxiety is during the come up and, if you are having trouble letting go, perhaps try to attack the anxiety in terms of convincing yourself that the anxiety has no place in the trip and needs to leave. Sounds strange but I am sure it may be of help during an intense trip. I sure as hell wish I had thought to do so when I had level 5.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18824860 - 09/10/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

9gs should do the trick for and relax cut the phone and comp off and turn on the music stuff like
nin the great below. 

Aphex twin. Stone in focus

Seems to help


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #18824883 - 09/10/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Accept death

accept anything as it comes, even the devil (nonacceptance is fear)

don't fear the fear, look right at it

trip for the love

take a larger dose if you take LSD, then there is no fear - I think it's the same with shrooms
with 3.5g there is often much fear, but with 4-5g there usually isn't , just overwhelming


btw I got some good psytrance for letting go in my journal if you want, all 1hr+ good mixes
can't  trip without psytrance / nature , helps all my trips, helps letting go

turn off all thoughts, is a good way of letting go
feel the music, turn off thoughts


Edited by lessismore (09/10/13 07:38 PM)


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: lessismore]
    #18824954 - 09/10/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just know that your subconcous mind knows you more than your concious mind ever could. It knows all your deepest fears. When you trip things are brought to light that may be hard to deal with. It's never the visuals or auditory stimuli themselves that scare us, it's the emotional or mental connections our subconcious mind makes. If you are facing something difficult it is for a reason. Eaither it is something you have been avoiding or pretending isnt there. It may be a fear that you've never faced. Just know your facing it now for a reason, you chose to take the substance to be shown something and know you're getting just that, something that can change you for the better. Once you face the darkness instead of running from it, it is no longer an unknown and you've conquered it.

"One mustn't curse the dark, simply light a candle"

Also taking up meditation will help, you can focus on your breath and bring yourself to calm acceptance.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: lessismore]
    #18824958 - 09/10/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You guys are awesome. I want all you guys have to give as far as letting go. I refuse to live through fear and anxiety. Thats not how life should be lived. I need to get better at meditating, relaxing, etc. I could always resort to taking some Ativan, but i've heard more negatives than positives as far as that goes.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18825029 - 09/10/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly man, I was into meditation a few years back and kinda fell away from it, what with life and everything taking up time. Well I got me and the woman a gym membership and they had free yoga classes, man you wouldnt believe what it does for your self confidence and helping keep you in that meditative state throughout the day. So if you get the chance to do yoga somewherre I highly recommend that too.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: PINEAPPLEman] * 1
    #18825079 - 09/10/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Always remember that by taking the substance and taking on the trip you asked for it. You had the courage to ask a question you may not like the answer too. If you're strong enough to do that you're strong enough to face the answers you find and you will gain from it every time. Thr difficult trips are the ones that teach us the most about ourselves. Confidence comes from knowing ourselves well and psychedelics can certainly help with that. When we are the most vulnerable we are letting our true self be present. You're strong man, you've got this! You have the confidence and bravery to journey into the unknown, just trust in yourself.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18825142 - 09/10/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Agentchewy said:
Higher dose, weed, sometime alcohol soothes anxiety,

Or,

Try challenge the anxiety at the source ,

The mushrooms are trying to STRip you of your ego,who you are.

Are you not being true to yourself!?come to terms with what you really want out of life



good fucking advise :yesnod:


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: PINEAPPLEman]
    #18825261 - 09/10/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can definitely let go on a non-overwhelming amount of psychs. I've had breakthroughs on half an eighth of cubes in the right environment, all you have to do is use some smart preparation and have fun doing it!

The times I have the best, most divine breakthroughs have always been hiking in the mountains, by yourself. Some may be sketched-out by this, but I assure you, making it up that trail and finding the perfect spot to spend a few hours is the greatest thing ever. Being by yourself allows you to be fully engulfed in the experience if you let yourself go.

It's important to have everything you think you would ever need by yourself(everything), and taking care of your shit, etc

1) Car keys: I always make a point to tie my car keys to my belt-loop with yarn, and long enough to fit deep in my pocket. You will not lose them.

2) "Important" items pocket: This is the pocket in your backpack where you store everything that you know is important. You will most likely not be so gone you won't realize how important they are, and to not open unless necessary. These items include your ID, a few bucks, phone, whatever; and the one everyone overlooks...toilet paper. Have a big wad.

3) Food/Water: Have around 3 good sized water bottles on-hand. You can shift them around and make them fit. Carry good, healthy snacks with you. Nuts, fruit, jerky, muesli, cliff bars, whatever you like. As much as I love avocados, that would be the one food I'd avoid...I always make a total mess and it gets all over my hands lol

4) Clothes: Pack according to weather. It's always best to trip-hike in a cool/warm temperature. Pack a sleeveless shirt, a tshirt, a light jacket, and a light blanket. Maybe shorts. idk.

I can fit all of this in one of those tiny raver-girl drawstring-pouches that act as backpacks. Tetris that sucka.

Pocket items should be ipod, and your now-tethered keys.

That should have you squared away so that everything you need is accessible, yet completely out-of-mind, keeping it care-free.

Tips from here-on-out on letting go: Listen to some awesome music, of your choosing. Electronic music of all kinds usually goes great with tripping and good-vibes. Listen to some trance-y, mellow melodies. Surrender yourself to the mushroom aloud. I know the idea of it is absurd, but it helps tremendously. " I give myself to you, show my beauty show me truth" something like that can help a lot more than it seems. Have a bunch of weed with you. Take your shirt off during the come up/peak. You will be sweaty, and the lack-of-shirt helps me connect. Think. Question. Go with the flow. Be in an open space where you can dance and close your eyes. be free, and be yourself.
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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: newearthmud1212]
    #18826040 - 09/11/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You guys are awesome, really. All of the advice is really helping me. I have a trip coming up this Sunday. Nothing TOO crazy as far as the dose:wink:, but im ready for this next experience. Im feelin some good vibes for this upcoming trip. Accepting everything that comes and let it just flow. It's true, since im the one asking for it, the answer might not be what I want it to be. Thats what happened last time to me. I fought it after I didnt want to accept the answer and I dont plan on doing that this time. You guys are great. :biggrin: I got this.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18826201 - 09/11/13 01:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't seek anything , expect nothing, accept everything as it comes

but finding oneself is always good :-)

no need to seek knowledge, seek to find oneself always / trip for the love

knowledge seeking is just endless loop of the brain :wink:

letting go is easier without seeking anything I think, but not sure
letting go comes as a surprise always (death on psychedelics comes as a surprise always)

when I trip I expect the trip to present to me what it wants to present to me
instead of seeking  something, but thats just my way

psytrance or music that makes you happy is very good for finding oneself, because the music speaks to something in us

if I could start all over with psychedelics, my only goal would be to know 'who am I?'
am I my brain? am I these thoughts? am I this body , what am I? looking back have I changed during my life ?
who am I inside, who am I outside? does my outside look like my inside


Edited by lessismore (09/11/13 01:56 AM)


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: lessismore]
    #18827222 - 09/11/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

We are all spiritual beings having a human experience. Psychedelics told me that everything that I thought I was, was wrong. Which now leads to an awesome mystery. :biggrin:


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18827438 - 09/11/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can't. You're not supposed to. For a real experience you have to go through tough times, I don't understand this fucking mindset of thinking you can take high doses and have a smooth ride fucking around with machine elves. It's impossible, ego death is going to hurt profusely, and then it will be pure tranquility.

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In my experience. Lol.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: HostDisorder]
    #18827619 - 09/11/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

to let go, you'll need to practice being in the present moment. dont get stuck in that pendulum
that swings from the past, present, and future. you want to find that balance, and stay in the
present. don't let your pendulum swing. meditation helps a lot, you just have to relax. and well, let go.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18827728 - 09/11/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The shortest distance from point A to point B is to accept A. Experience the moment through the senses, including all the rawness of anxiety or fear, whatever your body happens to be communicating.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #18827825 - 09/11/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't take so much and laugh your way threw it, if your feelin bad about somethin and goin into a dodgey mode then think of somethin funny and smile about it or laugh, im shit at giving advice but thats the only thing that would work for me i think


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: MarkJ1992]
    #18828014 - 09/11/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's easy for me to just remind myself to let go if it starts going south, but when it does I fucking hit the brakes sometimes.  I think I've developed an ability to force a trip back to somewhat-reality by doing this.  I don't see this as a good thing though cause it makes the trip less risky and enjoyable.  Next time though I'll actually try to let go.


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Re: "Letting go"..? [Re: HostDisorder]
    #18828408 - 09/11/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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HostDisorder said:
You can't. You're not supposed to. For a real experience you have to go through tough times, I don't understand this fucking mindset of thinking you can take high doses and have a smooth ride fucking around with machine elves. It's impossible, ego death is going to hurt profusely, and then it will be pure tranquility.

..

In my experience. Lol.



Your a fucking idiot ego death doesnt hurt obviously u never experienced any


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