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snakeblood
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28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas!
#18824203 - 09/10/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just received a packet of harmala seeds from ebay, and I was thinking of making a tea. Can anyone who has tried it before advise on dosages? Also, what else can I take to potentiate the effects? (lsa, salvia, etc)? Note: I'm not a smoker.
Overall, what to expect? I'm going to do this at home, sadly with my whole family in...is it risky? Worst thing that has happened to me so far was after taking too many LSA seeds, and I had to run to the bathroom looking like a psychopath (crazy hair, sweaty, dilated pupils and all)-I was sick the whole day after and could barely walk, but yet still managed to get away with it. What will happen with a plain rue tea, and what if I potentiate it somehow?
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MrMagicMushroom
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: snakeblood]
#18824217 - 09/10/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm going to do this at home, sadly with my whole family in...is it risky?
Do it when you don't have to worry about people that disapprove. Its just asking for disaster if you know they don't want you to do it
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18824294 - 09/10/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure syrian rue just gives a mood lift, I think you'd be fine, but I've only ever taken it just prior to an ayahuasca experience. Funny story actually, we made ayahuasca jello shots. Nastiest jello shots every, but it was fun.
As for dosages: https://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_dose.shtml
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For use as a MAOI, 3-5 g of seeds (approximately 1.5 mg harmala alkaloids per kilogram body mass) appears to be sufficient to activate oral DMT; i.e., no increase in activity is noted above these doses (Ott 1994; Shulgin 1997; G&Z 1986). Dosages from 3 g up to 28 g are taken to produce psychoactive effects (Shulgin 1997; Most 1985). At psychoactive dosages, Peganum harmala typically produces heavy somatic effects (cf. Shulgin 1997). Due to its MAOI effects, it may be advisable to avoid certain foods in combination with Peganum harmala.
Somatic effects are specifically physical, so I'm guessing upset stomach, sweating, etc. like you mentioned you experienced with HWBR or morning glories. Looks like you'll need to keep your dosage low and have a trip sitter, just in case. I'd wait until you have an opportunity far away from responsibility or unwanted attention.
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snakeblood
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18824316 - 09/10/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MrMagicMushroom said:
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I'm going to do this at home, sadly with my whole family in...is it risky?
Do it when you don't have to worry about people that disapprove. Its just asking for disaster if you know they don't want you to do it
I know, but there isn't any other place available. I do everything at night, when everyone's asleep, and unless it's something that lasts too long, or making me really sick, I don't think there's any way they'd find out. I have privacy in my room, and I generally don't allow anyone to disturb me in there.
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: snakeblood]
#18824488 - 09/10/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do your research
Don't go far from the Toilet
Good luck!
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: HarryL]
#18824549 - 09/10/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_dose.shtml
I start getting trails and odd feelings above 6grams. Lighter doses you just feel...different. There's nothing particular that happens, you just know that things aren't the same. It's probably a drug you could do safely in front of other people, though that's still not a good idea. Its main use is potentiating other psychs though. Stay away from amphetamines and ecstasy. I don't think it will potentiate salvia, though you never know.
I've never had problems with nausea, just have some ginger on hand just in case though.
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: snakeblood]
#18825004 - 09/10/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Save it for an amazing music festival with a lineup you love. One with light security. Get lost in the universe.
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: HarryL]
#18827102 - 09/11/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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HarryL said: Do your research
Don't go far from the Toilet
Good luck!

crude extractions will be MUCH more comfortable
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Re: 28 grams of syrian rue seeds came with the mail...ideas! [Re: j_db69]
#18827190 - 09/11/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crush the seeds; but don't powder them.
Simmer 7 grams in water (add a squirt of lemon juice); stirring for 30 minutes: and then strain.
You will feel very sedated/dreamy and somewhat nauseas depending on how well you filtered. You'll see great tracers and your eyes will be heavily dilated. Playing with small lights/ glow in the dark stuff in a dark room may be fun.
I hear Rue and LSA is a good combo, but sedating. Smoke some herb with it. Sometimes I even throw a couple rue seeds in to bowl to smoke, after breaking them so they don't pop under the lighter.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
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