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home eviction process
#18824021 - 09/10/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I'm living in a foreclosed home that is nearing its end.
I'm under the impression that the Sheriff will knock on my door and hand me a paper basically saying you have x amount of time to gtfo. That's what ive been told at least.
I just got some mail from a law office claiming we have 14 days to vacate or else they will "commense" the eviction process OR 90 days if we can show bonafide proof of ownership.
How should I read this? I haven't had a Sheriff knock on my door yet so I don't know if I should pack up and leave or wait till the Sheriff comes to me.
This is an Indiana home btw if that matters.
Any insight is appreciated
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Are you renting or do you own?
Do you who the owner is?
Do you know if there is a foreclosure?
Are you a senior citizen?
What are the county regulations?
There are lots of factors. Some places eviction is simple and quick. No rent? Well off you go! Some places it can take a long long time while you are paying taxes and losing rent.
A lot of the time you can negotiate to start paying rent.
If someone else is renting the place and you are just living there there are lots of options on the table to you.
Similarly if you have a rental agreement on file there are options but you probably aren't paying rent so those options are not open to you.
If you are elderly there are options.
Anyway. I need more info.
Also do you have good credit? Or is it really really bad? Like you already have evictions on your credit report?
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Forclosure?
If you name isn't on the house. I'd get out by the end of 14 days and move your address somewhere else. Get your stuff and go.
If your name is on the house. Try and negotiate money for keys. Depending on the house you can get some cash.
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My parents own(ed) the home. They split both got separate places and stopped paying this mortgage.
I'm living here,they don't live here anymore.
In late July a man offered me 14 days to clean the place out and leave for 1000 bucks...Didn't do it for various reasons.
Last week I came home to some guys drilling my front door lock off. I told then I am still living here till the Sheriff boots me. They said the realtor or bank thought noone was living here...They gave me the pair of keys for the new lock they put on and went on their way.
Now I her his notice from a law office... Still no actual notice from the Sheriff though so I don't know what to make of this. Obviously my days are numbered but just seeing if I have more than 14 days...
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The letter is telling you to move out in 14 days or they will file an unlawful detainer action against you. That is the cause of action that is commonly called "eviction." Until that has been filed, you have never had a landlord evict you.
If they file, it'll take 1-2 months before the process is completed and a sheriff comes to force you out.
So, your choice is:
1. Stay beyond the 14 days - This gives you a bit more time of living rent-free, and to find a new place. Unfortunately, it leaves you with an eviction on your record which will make it harder to rent in the future.
2. Move before the 14 days expires - You have less time and have to move faster, but you avoid having an eviction on your record.
3. Negotiate more time - This option is the best if you can work it out. Basically, you call up the law office and say, "I'm willing to move voluntarily, but I need a little more time." They don't really want to have to file and spend the day in court, so they're likely to give you a reasonable amount of time. They aren't going to give you months, but they will most likely give you 30 days. The sooner you make that call, the better, because if they refuse to work with you, you will need this time to find a new place.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18827978 - 09/11/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well its under my parents name and they already have new places, so this shouldn't affect my status at all if I choose option one correct?
And thanks for your response Enlil.
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Incorrect. YOU will be the one evicted. It doesn't matter who owned the home. All that matters is who has possession of the home. They don't have to evict your parents because they don't live there. YOU will be the one evicted.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18829676 - 09/11/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ahhh shit.
Looks like I'm gettin out in 14 days. I asked for an extension they'll let me know by Friday.
Just curious how do they go about putting me on an evicted list?
I was under the impression the Sheriff would knock on my door, give me a paper that said get out by day X and that was it?
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No, a court has to issue an order to vacate which the sheriff will then serve. That order can only be issued after a hearing. Because court actions are public record, there are companies that gather information about unlawful detainer actions and store them in a database that landlords use to find out if a prospective tenant has ever been evicted.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18829952 - 09/11/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Much appreciated.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18830608 - 09/11/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Last question..
So I just gtfo? I don't have to call anyone or do anything other than pack my shit and leave?
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When you vacate, I would send a certified letter to the lawyer letting them know you're out. I'd call the same day as well.
This is to cover your ass. Sadly, I've known landlords who evict someone AFTER they've already vacated just so that they can get a money judgment against a tenant. I seriously doubt they'd do that in a foreclosure situation because there's no money in it, but don't take chances.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18831214 - 09/12/13 05:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I continue with evictions after the tenant has vacated knowing full well I'll likely never make a penny off of it.
This is based on my lawyers recommendation. His reasoning is that while a tenant can say they moved out, they may not have. As well they may move out, but move back in. Continuing with the eviction here ensures the Sheriff shows up on eviction day and if need be he or she will physically remove the resident. The Sheriff will also post a legal notice on the door which strengthens the penalties for a tenant who then returns to the property.
Further, continuing the eviction ensures the tenant makes it into the public record (as you point out). I want them there. I want to be able to look at the record and see a prospective tenant has been evicted so that I don't rent to them.
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I'm not talking about continuing the eviction process. I'm talking about landlords who FILE an unlawful detainer after the tenant has vacated.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
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So am I. It's just a way to cover my ass and it has the added benefit of getting a judgement quicker than I would otherwise.
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Filing a UD after someone has already voluntarily left is unethical, immoral, and illegal in most states. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You're basically giving someone a record of having been evicted even though they weren't evicted at all. They left voluntarily before you evicted them.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18831263 - 09/12/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Funny, I'm not ashamed of it at all.
I want them out permanently. I want it on the record. I want other landlords to not get stuck with the same problem. And best of all, it's quite legal AND secures a judgement.
I do everything I can legally do to remove my problems and to help others not have to go through what I did. I'm quite happy and content to do so, all while staying within the confines of the law.
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I don't know what state you're in, but in California, it's illegal:
"If the defendant(s) vacate the premises . . . you must file a dismissal of the action." http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/SDCOURT/GENERALINFORMATION/FORMS/CIVILFORMS/PKT022.PDF
Further, when you give notice to someone to leave, if they leave voluntarily within that time period, they weren't evicted. I hope you get sued for abuse of process someday. Your lawyer is DEAD WRONG if he advises you to file a UD after the tenant vacates. In addition, if you're not properly serving the tenant at their NEW ADDRESS, you're compounding the issue.
More importantly, however, is that you create a false record of an eviction for someone who was never evicted. If you're okay with punishing someone who voluntarily complies with your notice to quit by falsely saddling them with the record of an eviction, then you're morally bereft.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
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Then I'm a morally bereft landlord who operates within the law. I can live with that.
And by the way, a legal service here goes to the last known address, not the new address (which I may not even know). Nor is there a requirement that I file a dismissal.
I guess it's a good thing I don't live in CA.
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Most likely, you're incorrect about the legality of it. In any case, it doesn't matter. Making false claims against someone is immoral. It doesn't really matter if it's illegal or not.
I hope someday your credit reports falsely show you as having a dozen bankruptcies...then you'll be able to see how fun it is to have false shit on your record.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
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OK. However, the Judges here seem to disagree with your assessment. The law seems to matter to them.
What I see as immoral is passing my problems on to someone else.
It's pretty amusing to be lectured on morals by someone wishing me ill-will.
And by the way... I have had false shit on my record before. I used legal means to clear it up.
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Again, I don't know what state you're in...and I'm betting that the judges don't know the whole story either, since you're intentionally serving someone at an address where you know they no longer live.
In any case, you're fine with fucking people over with false accusations, and I hope that the world pays you back for it. It's not likely, of course, because people who abuse the system often get away with it.
Eventually, however, I hope one of these former tenants that you've fucked over gets a lawyer who nails you to the cross for it. I've tried appealing to your morals, but that didn't work...I think the only way you're going to stop screwing people is if it hurts you in the wallet.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
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The former tenants have tried, and failed. Lawyers and all. A service to the last known address is perfectly legal here.
And again, an appeal to "morals" from someone wishing me ill-will is rather funny. It seems to indicate your morals shift depending on the circumstance. What moral code allows you to wish ill upon someone?
I'm perfectly comfortable using the system in the way it was intended to rid myself of someone who has fucked me.
If the state decides to change the law, my tactics will change along with them. In the meantime, I'll continue to use it and I'll continue to sleep just fine.
You in the meantime, can continue riding your high-horse.
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What you call "wishing ill-will" is actually me hoping that someone will teach you a lesson so that you stop victimizing people. That is no more "wishing ill-will" than would be hoping a murderer is convicted so that he can't murder someone else.
This conversation has clearly run its course. You're okay with fucking people over...as long as you're okay with that, there's no point in trying to reason with you about it. You may now feel free to post so as to ensure that you have the precious last word on the subject.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
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OK. Last word it is.
Ready? Here it comes...
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luvdemshrooms said: Then I'm a morally bereft landlord who operates within the law. I can live with that.
And by the way, a legal service here goes to the last known address, not the new address (which I may not even know). Nor is there a requirement that I file a dismissal.
I guess it's a good thing I don't live in CA.
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So I've heard.
Feel better about yourself now?
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luvdemshrooms said: So I've heard.
Feel better about yourself now?
Not at all. Didn't expect to.
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luvdemshrooms said: The former tenants have tried, and failed. Lawyers and all. A service to the last known address is perfectly legal here.
One day you'll screw over the wrong person. When that happens please tell them to remember to break your fingers after they beat you unconscious. Then we finally won't have to deal with you anymore.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: fastfred]
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Isn't that pathetic or what ? this guy must have a unbelievably small dick. Just imagining someone actually taking the time to go through these ropes to fuck someone else over, makes me laugh out loud. Eventually he will seek help to confront all those rough child hood memories of having no friends and being at the ass end of every joke. Then ! maybe, just maybe he will be able to stop acting out his sinister childhood fantasies as an adult.
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It's 2 inches, but it spins.
I'm sure you and FF would happily let someone fuck you and then neither of you would take steps to ensure the unwanted fucking would stop, neither of you would take the steps needed to undo the fucking and neither of you would take steps to help others not get fucked by shitbags that don't pay their rent.
Of course you would.
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luvdemshrooms said: It's 2 inches, but it spins.
I'm sure you and FF would happily let someone fuck you and then neither of you would take steps to ensure the unwanted fucking would stop, neither of you would take the steps needed to undo the fucking and neither of you would take steps to help others not get fucked by shitbags that don't pay their rent.
Of course you would.

and what about those who do pay ?
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From what he said before, I assume he files eviction on tenants even when they move out and haven't missed a single penny of rent.
He just likes to make sure that he gives all ex-tenants a souvenir in the form of a false-eviction on their record.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said: From what he said before, I assume he files eviction on tenants even when they move out and haven't missed a single penny of rent.
He just likes to make sure that he gives all ex-tenants a souvenir in the form of a false-eviction on their record.
Yeah that's what I understand to. Unbelievable there are people this low and petty. I'm surprised the law allows this.
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It doesn't. He's mistaken. As I said earlier in the thread, someone could sue him for abuse of process and fuck him up good.
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luvdemshrooms said:I'm sure you and FF would happily let someone fuck you and then neither of you would take steps to ensure the unwanted fucking would stop, neither of you would take the steps needed to undo the fucking and neither of you would take steps to help others not get fucked by shitbags that don't pay their rent.
Shit happens. When somebody can't pay the rent and has to move out of their home that sucks for everybody.
If they keep lying to you and use every option to delay things, then wait until they are physically evicted then that sucks for you. Even then, most of the time it's probably not because they're a bad person or trying to fuck you over, they just don't know what else to do.
When somebody actually has the morals and decency to say "Sorry, I can't pay the rent I'll have to move out," and you fuck them over with a false eviction record. That's just pathetic on your part.
I'm sure landlords get screwed all the time... If you consider collecting a big chunk of someone's income over a long period of time, then losing a month or two of rent at the end because of the tenant's misfortune getting screwed over. But a LOT of the landlords and property companies in my area systematically screw over every tenant they rent to.
From my experience, it's organized crime by landlords vs. simple misfortune by tenants, most of the time. In either case it's almost always the tenant that gets the short end of the stick.
If we had a system to get ultimate fairness, guess what? You wouldn't own any properties because they'd have been seized from you and distributed to the tenants you've fucked over.
What you're doing is a crime. There's no way around that.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said: What you're doing is a crime.
Overstating a position doesn't make your point stronger...it makes it weaker. What he's doing is illegal, but it isn't a crime.
The irony is that when his tenants don't pay the rent, he has to give them a notice giving them x number of days to pay or move out. Oddly, if they choose to move out, he initiates an action to force them to do what they've already voluntarily done...AFTER HE GIVES THEM THE OPTION OF DOING IT!
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luvdemshrooms said: It's 2 inches, but it spins.
I'm sure you and FF would happily let someone fuck you and then neither of you would take steps to ensure the unwanted fucking would stop, neither of you would take the steps needed to undo the fucking and neither of you would take steps to help others not get fucked by shitbags that don't pay their rent.
Of course you would.

and what about those who do pay ?
They move when they want to. They get their deposit back and a good reference if they put me down as one.
Why would you begin the eviction process on someone who pays?
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said: From what he said before, I assume he files eviction on tenants even when they move out and haven't missed a single penny of rent.
He just likes to make sure that he gives all ex-tenants a souvenir in the form of a false-eviction on their record.
That's an amazingly stupid assumption. You'd think a lawyer would know better.
Especially one that ragged on so many in the Trayvon thread for doing just that.
Good for you.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867810 - 09/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: It doesn't. He's mistaken. As I said earlier in the thread, someone could sue him for abuse of process and fuck him up good.
They tried. Multiple times.
All lost.
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One will succeed eventually. If you pm me what state you're in, I'll prove to you that it's illegal.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: fastfred]
#18867822 - 09/20/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:I'm sure you and FF would happily let someone fuck you and then neither of you would take steps to ensure the unwanted fucking would stop, neither of you would take the steps needed to undo the fucking and neither of you would take steps to help others not get fucked by shitbags that don't pay their rent.
Shit happens. When somebody can't pay the rent and has to move out of their home that sucks for everybody.
If they keep lying to you and use every option to delay things, then wait until they are physically evicted then that sucks for you. Even then, most of the time it's probably not because they're a bad person or trying to fuck you over, they just don't know what else to do.
When somebody actually has the morals and decency to say "Sorry, I can't pay the rent I'll have to move out," and you fuck them over with a false eviction record. That's just pathetic on your part.
I'm sure landlords get screwed all the time... If you consider collecting a big chunk of someone's income over a long period of time, then losing a month or two of rent at the end because of the tenant's misfortune getting screwed over. But a LOT of the landlords and property companies in my area systematically screw over every tenant they rent to.
From my experience, it's organized crime by landlords vs. simple misfortune by tenants, most of the time. In either case it's almost always the tenant that gets the short end of the stick.
If we had a system to get ultimate fairness, guess what? You wouldn't own any properties because they'd have been seized from you and distributed to the tenants you've fucked over.
What you're doing is a crime. There's no way around that.
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Except if it was a crime, I'd have lost one of the cases and I'd have been spanked for it. That hasn't happened.
If a tenant treats me right, I treat him/her right. If they don't, I take the steps needed to collect my money.
I follow the system. The system works.
Get over it. Or don't. I'll keep collecting my money and evicting those who have not met their end of the deal.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867828 - 09/20/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: One will succeed eventually. If you pm me what state you're in, I'll prove to you that it's illegal.

Right.
Because my lawyer succeeds and the opposition lawyers fail.
It's happened enough times that I'm not worried about it.
That's what my lawyer is for. You know... the guy who represents me in court. The guy, who along with the Judges and the opposition lawyers, that you seem to think you're much smarter than.
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I know you don't want anyone raining on your parade, so just keep believing what you believe. Eventually, it'll catch up to you.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867854 - 09/20/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course it will.
If they change the law and I fail to hear about it.
Of course, then I'd likely sue my lawyer for giving me bad advice.
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It's easy to find lawyers that are willing to play fast and loose with the rules. It's also easy for a lawyer to do it for many years without ever getting caught at it. In addition, it's quite common for people to break the law consistently and repeatedly without ever getting caught or ever even knowing it's illegal.
Eventually, it'll catch up to you, though. Whether in a court of law or elsewhere, your immoral deeds will come back and repay you.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867874 - 09/20/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you keep saying.
I'm surprised you think several lawyers and Judges over a period of years are that stupid.
It must be good to consider yourself so knowledgeable.
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I never said they were stupid, but you're free to assume whatever you want. I'm 99.99% sure it's illegal in your state, but without knowing the state, I can't back that claim up without doing a survey of all 50 states...and the issue isn't worth that much work to me.
The important issue isn't the legality. It's the morality. If, by some stretch, you've found a jurisdiction that has a gaping crack in their real estate laws, it's still immoral to saddle people with a false record of eviction when they left voluntarily. This isn't a grey area, here. You give people a notice to move out, and when they do so, you sue them for doing exactly what you asked them to do.
It's one thing to sue for unpaid rent. Of course, you're owed that. Suing for possession (which is what an Unlawful Detainer is) when you already have it is scummy, dishonest, frivolous, and morally reprehensible.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867916 - 09/20/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh my. I have seen the error of my ways.

I'm comfortable taking all legal steps to get back the money they haven't paid me.
You know... for someone paid not to assume, you make a lot of stupid assumptions.
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luvdemshrooms said: Oh my. I have seen the error of my ways.
Clearly not.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867940 - 09/20/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Clearly.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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