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One will succeed eventually. If you pm me what state you're in, I'll prove to you that it's illegal.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: home eviction process [Re: fastfred]
#18867822 - 09/20/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:I'm sure you and FF would happily let someone fuck you and then neither of you would take steps to ensure the unwanted fucking would stop, neither of you would take the steps needed to undo the fucking and neither of you would take steps to help others not get fucked by shitbags that don't pay their rent.
Shit happens. When somebody can't pay the rent and has to move out of their home that sucks for everybody.
If they keep lying to you and use every option to delay things, then wait until they are physically evicted then that sucks for you. Even then, most of the time it's probably not because they're a bad person or trying to fuck you over, they just don't know what else to do.
When somebody actually has the morals and decency to say "Sorry, I can't pay the rent I'll have to move out," and you fuck them over with a false eviction record. That's just pathetic on your part.
I'm sure landlords get screwed all the time... If you consider collecting a big chunk of someone's income over a long period of time, then losing a month or two of rent at the end because of the tenant's misfortune getting screwed over. But a LOT of the landlords and property companies in my area systematically screw over every tenant they rent to.
From my experience, it's organized crime by landlords vs. simple misfortune by tenants, most of the time. In either case it's almost always the tenant that gets the short end of the stick.
If we had a system to get ultimate fairness, guess what? You wouldn't own any properties because they'd have been seized from you and distributed to the tenants you've fucked over.
What you're doing is a crime. There's no way around that.
-FF
Except if it was a crime, I'd have lost one of the cases and I'd have been spanked for it. That hasn't happened.
If a tenant treats me right, I treat him/her right. If they don't, I take the steps needed to collect my money.
I follow the system. The system works.
Get over it. Or don't. I'll keep collecting my money and evicting those who have not met their end of the deal.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867828 - 09/20/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: One will succeed eventually. If you pm me what state you're in, I'll prove to you that it's illegal.

Right.
Because my lawyer succeeds and the opposition lawyers fail.
It's happened enough times that I'm not worried about it.
That's what my lawyer is for. You know... the guy who represents me in court. The guy, who along with the Judges and the opposition lawyers, that you seem to think you're much smarter than.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Enlil
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I know you don't want anyone raining on your parade, so just keep believing what you believe. Eventually, it'll catch up to you.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867854 - 09/20/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course it will.
If they change the law and I fail to hear about it.
Of course, then I'd likely sue my lawyer for giving me bad advice.
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Enlil
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It's easy to find lawyers that are willing to play fast and loose with the rules. It's also easy for a lawyer to do it for many years without ever getting caught at it. In addition, it's quite common for people to break the law consistently and repeatedly without ever getting caught or ever even knowing it's illegal.
Eventually, it'll catch up to you, though. Whether in a court of law or elsewhere, your immoral deeds will come back and repay you.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867874 - 09/20/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you keep saying.
I'm surprised you think several lawyers and Judges over a period of years are that stupid.
It must be good to consider yourself so knowledgeable.
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Enlil
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I never said they were stupid, but you're free to assume whatever you want. I'm 99.99% sure it's illegal in your state, but without knowing the state, I can't back that claim up without doing a survey of all 50 states...and the issue isn't worth that much work to me.
The important issue isn't the legality. It's the morality. If, by some stretch, you've found a jurisdiction that has a gaping crack in their real estate laws, it's still immoral to saddle people with a false record of eviction when they left voluntarily. This isn't a grey area, here. You give people a notice to move out, and when they do so, you sue them for doing exactly what you asked them to do.
It's one thing to sue for unpaid rent. Of course, you're owed that. Suing for possession (which is what an Unlawful Detainer is) when you already have it is scummy, dishonest, frivolous, and morally reprehensible.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867916 - 09/20/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh my. I have seen the error of my ways.

I'm comfortable taking all legal steps to get back the money they haven't paid me.
You know... for someone paid not to assume, you make a lot of stupid assumptions.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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luvdemshrooms said: Oh my. I have seen the error of my ways.
Clearly not.
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Re: home eviction process [Re: Enlil]
#18867940 - 09/20/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Clearly.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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