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viktor
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Re: Does the school system really want to dumb us down? [Re: extreme]
#18834614 - 09/12/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You might as well have been describing my own problems at school. By fluke I became aware at a young age that I would need to decide my own moral values (thanks Nietzsche) and then the expectations of society became little more than an annoyance, like a barking dog a few blocks away.
I think the truth is that 99% of society would go mental without these structures/strictures in place, and they don't care if you don't like them because the idea (I think) is that you should be able to direct your own learning after a certain point.
Doing a Master's Degree was great for me. I found it very difficult but at the end of it you certainly can direct your own learning (which is what a Master is).
It seems to me that 1 in every 100 or so men simply must be the captain of his own ship. I started a publishing company to get around the problem of taking orders from intellectual inferiors, which had up until then driven me bananas.
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Re: Does the school system really want to dumb us down? [Re: viktor]
#18834836 - 09/12/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gaining facts is one thing but being able to apply that info to an envisioned whole where the pieces flow and grow through interconnection with the direction of creative intent is... Some thing the education system seems intent on overlooking.
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Re: Does the school system really want to dumb us down? [Re: Hobozen]
#18835387 - 09/13/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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extreme


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Re: Does the <nobr><a href="#" class="FAtxtL" id="FALINK_2_0_1">school</a></nobr> system really want to dumb us down? [Re: Spacerific]
#18837190 - 09/13/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great posts everyone. Thanks Spacerific for the interesting vid 
Well that's it OP keep your nose to the grindstone, head down, work is good, and if you think too much you may just shoot yourself. Or jump
Yea thinking too much can definitely be a bad thing for me sometimes lol. I've accepted that this is just the way things are before, and sometimes just zoning out in class yet still getting points for attendance can sort of even the playing field with the rest of the class. Right now I'm just not reading my composition textbook since it's not teaching me anything, so maybe I'll write like any other kid fresh out of high school. That's doubtful though, when I took this same class when I was 18 I was amazed even then at how bad most people are at writing. I had a minor epiphany if that's what you wanna call it Wed night, it was the best inside joke EVER (the punchline had ties with this thread). Life has seemed a little less serious since then 
Doing a Master's Degree was great for me. I found it very difficult but at the end of it you certainly can direct your own learning (which is what a Master is)
I was kinda hoping somebody would touch on this. It wasn't the entire point of this thread but one of my questions was "when does it get more difficult?" This seems to answer that question. I also like your captain of your own ship analogy.. I don't like letting other people control me, especially when they don't seem qualified themselves.
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Big fancy flat screen TVs and video games probably haven't helped much in recent times lol. It wasn't long ago people read books and had to use their imagination.
So guys my first essay for this class is an "evaluation essay." I'm supposed to express an opinion and persuade my audience to accept my viewpoint. I tend to do better when I write about things I'm passionate about but sometimes those things can be pretty controversial. Any ideas?? I've got some brainstorming to do this weekend (by far the hardest part for me in writing essays is picking a topic that isn't too edgy but is still interesting enough for me to actually write a decent paper).
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Re: Does the <nobr><a href="#" class="FAtxtL" id="FALINK_2_0_1">school</a></nobr> system really want to dumb us down? [Re: extreme]
#18837219 - 09/13/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea thinking too much can definitely be a bad thing for me sometimes lol.
Maybe you should try thinking more about the external, it often seem like you're quite self-centered IMO. There's a lot of focus on 'I' in your posts.
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Re: Does the <nobr><a href="#" class="FAtxtL" id="FALINK_2_0_1">school</a></nobr> system really want to dumb us down? [Re: liquidlounge]
#18837260 - 09/13/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: Yea thinking too much can definitely be a bad thing for me sometimes lol.
Maybe you should try thinking more about the external, it often seem like you're quite self-centered IMO. There's a lot of focus on 'I' in your posts.
Thanks for your insightful feedback
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liquidlounge

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Re: Does the <nobr><a href= [Re: extreme]
#18837338 - 09/13/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Subjective feelings are great contributors to chaos.
Edited by liquidlounge (09/13/13 03:20 PM)
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extreme


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liquidlounge said: Subjective feelings are great contributors to chaos. 
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liquidlounge

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Re: hypocrisy [Re: extreme]
#18837443 - 09/13/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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There it's.
You claim to be a critical person, is this critique ever directed towards yourself? Try reading most of your posts in this forum and you might come to the same conclusion as I do.
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extreme


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Whatever man, I really don't care now. Thanks for adding nothing constructive at all to this thread. Everything I've said in here as far as personal observations go are just that, personal observations. I'm not stating them as facts and I'm open to other ideas from other people. I dunno, my apologies if I come off so sure of myself and everything I believe, because I'm not.
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liquidlounge

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Re: hypocrisy [Re: extreme]
#18837527 - 09/13/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for adding nothing constructive at all to this thread.
I gave feedback on why you feel that you think too much and how it can be a bad thing for you.
I'm open to other ideas from other people.
Not when it gets serious.
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extreme


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k. u win
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