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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18821544 - 09/10/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Conclusion: I was forced to fight my fears that I have. Mine always being the dark, and also that life is fake. I felt hell beating down on me and at one point wanted to die. I feel liberated now knowing that I have fought for my right to live and as of 10pm tonight I feel as though I have been let free from some things. I sure hope my next trip doesn't start out so screwed up, like the eeriness that one small mistep on a piano can cause. What I can say however is that I feel great to be alive and know that I was never in any real danger.



you're from the bible belt arent you? if i had to guess i'd say morman? one thing you should try to understand is that the bible isnt really the word of god, its been changed so many times throughout history that it has lost its authenticity. kings deciding they want to change the rules so they tell the church to change the bible so that they can do what they want to do. heaven and hell were an invention by the church, as a scare tactic and a reward system. have your parents ever said "if you keep making that face itll get stuck"? its the same idea, its silly to think your face would actually get stuck, but if you're young enough, hearing that will scare the crap out of you so you dont do it again.

You're going to have a rough journey to your true spiritual awakening. the message that psychedelics send are so opposite from the church. but i think if you follow the path you will be a better person for it.

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Btw some weird effect I noticed last time was that my visual snow I get when blinking was erased after my 20mg dose. It just turned flat and would be red or blue. Now my blinking has it back with visions of faces and strange octopus limbs which I saw sometimes during the trip. Anyone have the ability to explain why?




thats cause you're still high bro

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Also, please rate what level trip this was achieved. I have read that full on level five should take me out of this dimension. That is what I was aiming for and honestly am completely let down. Sure, I just described a pretty horrid time but I am a Psych major. I indulge in these drugs for the craziness that is involved for the reason I am experiencing now. A total removal of anxiety and inhibitions in social environments after the long winded lesson. Albeit that is subjective to me, but I am sure others feel this way too. I feel safe thinking of doubling the dose yet again, although not for a few weeks considering time restraints of school and work and such.



rating a trip by levels is so subjective, and those levels were really made for mushrooms more than any other drug. dont worry about what level you got to, cause really it doesnt matter.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18821638 - 09/10/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Nitrous and herb is definitely my favorite way to go farther



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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Blazer420]
    #18821808 - 09/10/13 02:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #18822158 - 09/10/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Haha I've felt this"shift" on 4 aco..

The devil has nothing to do with all this though haha, we as humans are spiritual beings. We blame the unknown on religion created by ourselves.

Its a funny circle


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: sailing]
    #18822281 - 09/10/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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you're from the bible belt arent you? if i had to guess i'd say morman? one thing you should try to understand is that the bible isnt really the word of god, its been changed so many times throughout history that it has lost its authenticity. kings deciding they want to change the rules so they tell the church to change the bible so that they can do what they want to do. heaven and hell were an invention by the church, as a scare tactic and a reward system. have your parents ever said "if you keep making that face itll get stuck"? its the same idea, its silly to think your face would actually get stuck, but if you're young enough, hearing that will scare the crap out of you so you dont do it again.

You're going to have a rough journey to your true spiritual awakening. the message that psychedelics send are so opposite from the church. but i think if you follow the path you will be a better person for it.





wow
First of all mormons don't even believe in your formal christian concept of hell

Second of all the fact that you feel the need to write any of this to this guy is really mind blowing.  I guess you think anyone who mentions the bible takes it as 100% gods word for every word and doesn't realize it has been manipulated by man :/  I Could go on but whatever probably nobody else feels the same way as I do about this post.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Noobiesnack]
    #18822495 - 09/10/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's OK man. He was just stating his opinion on a public forum. Mormon's use the book or Mormon though man. My father was my pastor my whole life and he passed away in December. I was brought up Christian and I still attend with my Mom because I still live with her. Just because I'm a christian doesn't mean I'm blind. And I'm pretty sure the bible belt is on the east right? I was born in California, grew up in Colorado, moved back to California for my dad to pass thena mother family took us in here in Arizona. Sadly their 19 year old daughter probably couldn't handle this drug :/

So levels would not be an important statistic? Does that mean 4-aco just through oral ingestion will never leave me in true awe? The dark scares me so much and I just want that taken away from me. I ended up with PTSD from a traumatic experience the same week my dad passed and I never was quite the same.

And final question. Was this ego death or should I go deeper into the rabbit hole?


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18822538 - 09/10/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: snoot]
    #18822545 - 09/10/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.



I'm not gonna IV a drug which could be unsterile. I'm already taking an RC. Don't want to increase risks. But I have heard K is a ride.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium] * 1
    #18822575 - 09/10/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It's OK man. He was just stating his opinion on a public forum. Mormon's use the book or Mormon though man. My father was my pastor my whole life and he passed away in December. I was brought up Christian and I still attend with my Mom because I still live with her. Just because I'm a christian doesn't mean I'm blind. And I'm pretty sure the bible belt is on the east right? I was born in California, grew up in Colorado, moved back to California for my dad to pass thena mother family took us in here in Arizona. Sadly their 19 year old daughter probably couldn't handle this drug :/

So levels would not be an important statistic? Does that mean 4-aco just through oral ingestion will never leave me in true awe? The dark scares me so much and I just want that taken away from me. I ended up with PTSD from a traumatic experience the same week my dad passed and I never was quite the same.

And final question. Was this ego death or should I go deeper into the rabbit hole?




I can't tell based on your report... But did you ever get the feeling that you stepped outside of your brain into a realm where all consciousness was just a soup of energy? Like you and your brother were really just the same existence manifested into two diverging branches so to speak? That would be ego death. You completely lose concept of the "I" and become a part of the "all". Sometimes it lasts a split second, sometimes it's a rather dominating theme. I have experienced it on 35 mg of 4-aco-dmt but I was also smoking a lot of weed and doing 3 or so whippets at a time all night... So that may have contributed...

But you will know when it happens. It's generally characterized by a "did you see that?" "yeah I see it?" "but no that's not what I'm talking about, do you see THIS" "yeah dude I see it." " the same thing?" "yeah" "so you are experiencing the same thing as... WHOAAAAAAAAA!!!! Dafuq" and words fail you and all you can do is stare and nod and smile "I get it". Everything makes sense. You can trace any part of your life experience to any other part because they are all entangled in this all-encompassing web of relations. Like you're one cell that makes up a larger body.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18822665 - 09/10/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.



I'm not gonna IV a drug which could be unsterile. I'm already taking an RC. Don't want to increase risks. But I have heard K is a ride.





So you dont want to IV most any drug. K


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: snoot]
    #18823559 - 09/10/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.



I'm not gonna IV a drug which could be unsterile. I'm already taking an RC. Don't want to increase risks. But I have heard K is a ride.





So you dont want to IV most any drug. K



Which was my point. If I found K, we're going insufflation not IV or IM.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18826849 - 09/11/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nothing in this life has changed me as much as my IV(dmt) experiences. Beautiful.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: snoot]
    #18827262 - 09/11/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

4 aco dmt can be strong in oral doses but never really was too much for me orally even at 50mg then after a while 40 more mg but 25 mg iv was insane. and actually its not as bad as people think to iv this imho because if you use a quality vendor you will get like 98 or so precent purity and that's much more pure than you will get anything else


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #18827987 - 09/11/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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4 aco dmt can be strong in oral doses but never really was too much for me orally even at 50mg then after a while 40 more mg but 25 mg iv was insane. and actually its not as bad as people think to iv this imho because if you use a quality vendor you will get like 98 or so precent purity and that's much more pure than you will get anything else



have you written a trip report?  I haven't read many IV reports


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18830540 - 09/11/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Only advice I can offer is to use the time afterwards for reflection, it sounds like you brought a lot back with you and you might not have "gone through it all" yet :wink:

Things will begin to open up a bit for you, and the negative thoughts deep down will dissolve.  Thanks for sharing with us


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: j_db69]
    #18830631 - 09/11/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I used to dislike oral dosing but I just made a chocolate and have no upset tummy or negative thoughts I hate gelcaps for the stomach aces. and before I think I disliked this due to bad thought and mostly stuff going on with me but now I see how great it is. and iv is intense stuff


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