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[Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them
#18821761 - 09/10/13 02:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The gang that [wants to induct me so that] I'm in's leader has agreed to let me do a sociological study on them, understanding that my goal is to publish in an undergraduate Sociology journal.
Does anyone have a good resource on Sociological research methods???
Also, anybody have any ideas or considerations on things about gangs that might be worth exploring that might not be obviously worth looking into?
Edit: the bigger deal... can someone competent in Sociology refer me to an adequate textbook for preparation in research methods in Sociology?
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18821767 - 09/10/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you're...joining a gang? like a street gang?
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18821772 - 09/10/13 02:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: you're...joining a gang? like a street gang? 
I was already recruited, but I've backed out in the interest of instead documenting their morphology and evolution for the Sociological community.
This gang has already agreed to terrorize the psychiatrist that ruined my life though, which is a nice plus and is very much needed to protect his future patients.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox] 8
#18821786 - 09/10/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your fake sociology research won't be worth a crap.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18821789 - 09/10/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How will they terrorize him?
I'd suggest booking his schedule full, and dosing him with 500mg+ of acid everytime someone has a session
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Dorian Gray] 4
#18821796 - 09/10/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope the real sociological research is observing our reaction to such an idea.
You know who they look at when somebody is harassing a psychiatrist, right?
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18821797 - 09/10/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Things to consider: social stratification, social class, culture, race and ethnicity, gender and sexuality, social mobility, religion, secularization, law, and deviance.
Questions to ponder: the effects of group-mentality on free will, morality and ethics? the effects of peer pressure? the mechanism of bonding amongst like-minded individuals and the power it can wield? direct and indirect effects of gang-mentality on society?
Research methods: experimental research including observation, participant surveys, control groups, archival research.
Lastly: ask yourself what drew you to this topic and what you've learned about yourself throughout the study.
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#18821805 - 09/10/13 02:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fake sociology research is a good way to get stabbed
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: junkyardgod] 2
#18821819 - 09/10/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why don't you ask your professor for a textbook and advice? And why the hell are you dealing with a gang??? Just all round dumb if you ask me.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox] 2
#18821822 - 09/10/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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St1ll you're a nice guy but you're just asking for the haters here
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: thizzlemaniac]
#18821831 - 09/10/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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thizzlemaniac said: St1ll you're a nice guy but you're just asking for the haters here
 this almost feels like a troll post
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Psilosopherr] 2
#18821839 - 09/10/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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rbalzer said:
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thizzlemaniac said: St1ll you're a nice guy but you're just asking for the haters here
 this almost feels like a troll post 
Yea man.. Idk how to take this thread
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: huffinglue]
#18821843 - 09/10/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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your white boy gang is a buncha pussies from the suburbs
you need to go into the hood and meet some real motha fuckin gs nigga
seriously tho, if you do research on a gang, dont make it on a pussy ass rich white person gang you know better than that nox
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: huffinglue]
#18821861 - 09/10/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: I hope the real sociological research is observing our reaction to such an idea.
You know who they look at when somebody is harassing a psychiatrist, right?
You're talking to a member of PGS. This has long since already been worked out.
I'm sure they'll look at the dozens of people he fucks with pharmacologically weekly.
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Dorian Gray said: Your fake sociology research won't be worth a crap.
It's not fake. This is one of the top 5 most worthless replies I've ever seen. I can literally, absolutely guarantee you that you're (internet-wise) talking to the most influential person to science that you've ever interacted with.
Also, regarding your other reply:
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Dorian Gray said: Fake sociology research is a good way to get stabbed
I was robbed of over $3000 of equipment last time I decided to do a sociological study on my own, including my laptop, headphones, an expensive mic, etc. I'm good on this advice as well and their loyalty to me (they've been dying for a resident intellectual, apparently) will avert any such concerns this time around. I'm setting up the group that robbed me last time as the scapegoats in case this current group comes under investigation.
You should probably also know that I've already been published in a top 2% scientific journal, and in computational biophysics/genomics, so this isn't some random student looking to resume-build... this is very much real research.
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junkyardgod said: Things to consider: social stratification, social class, culture, race and ethnicity, gender and sexuality, social mobility, religion, secularization, law, and deviance.
Questions to ponder: the effects of group-mentality on free will, morality and ethics? the effects of peer pressure? the mechanism of bonding amongst like-minded individuals and the power it can wield? direct and indirect effects of gang-mentality on society?
Research methods: experimental research including observation, participant surveys, control groups, archival research.
Lastly: ask yourself what drew you to this topic and what you've learned about yourself throughout the study.
Thank you for a meaningful and useful response! I hadn't considered some of those, and I assuredly shall henceforth!
My plans so far for the interviews include: Self-percieved socioeconomic status Drug use Academic status and history goals in joining the gang philosophy on justice Religion* secularization* legal history* penchant for deviance* sexuality*
* ideas begotten from your reply, so thank you immensely!!!
Any further contributions would be great! Dorian, either you don't know who you're talking to (the last 3 psychiatrist I've had have, first and foremost, have been concerned primarily that my drug use is going to deprive the scientific community of what I have to offer) or you're a troll, I'm sorry. Perhaps you ought to have a more encouraging, positive attitude to those concerned with understanding and documenting our society and world? Rate me 0 if you'd like, but I can assure you as a PGS member that I'm at least in the top 5 smartest people you're ever going to encounter, whether you happen to be a smarter one or not.
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huffinglue said: Why don't you ask your professor for a textbook and advice? And why the hell are you dealing with a gang??? Just all round dumb if you ask me.
I am, and I'm going to do an iTunes you Sociology Research Methods class if I can't find anything better. I've already emailed my old honors Sociology professor at her [MY UNIVERSITY] alumnus account as well as her new (since she got her PhD) account at her new institution, as well as her Facebook. I'm quite serious about this, and eager for direction on how I can maximize this research.
I'm dealing with a gang because they, seeing my academic/intellectual prowess, decided they wanted me and could use me and while I was hesitant on this front, I did manage to convince their #1 man that being studied and published about in the scientific community would be awesome.
It is risky, though. Again, I've already set up a scheme of exactly who is going to be framed if this leads to any investigation, as well as appraised him and his gangmates as to what sorts of risks I'm imparting on them by doing this so that they can make whatever legal fortifications they need to on their front.
Also, all my notes, both so far and in the future, are written in Ancient Greek transliterations of Spanglish; there's nearly no way anything I document can make its way to a jury, PLUS I already have scapegoats set up.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox] 2
#18821868 - 09/10/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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#18821880 - 09/10/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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DXM Shamans don't get their "research" published anywhere but the trip report section of Erowid.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty] 2
#18821884 - 09/10/13 02:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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nox what exactly does this gang do? traffic drugs? murder for hire? extortion? run open air drug markets? offer protection? rob people? grand theft auto? pimpin hoes n tricks?
or ride bicycles together and all bang one chick(probably a dude) at the same time?
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Dorian Gray]
#18821888 - 09/10/13 02:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty] 4
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It's not fake. This is one of the top 5 most worthless replies I've ever seen. I can literally, absolutely guarantee you that you're (internet-wise) talking to the most influential person to science that you've ever interacted with.
Yep, troll thread. Everyone knows sociology is not science.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox] 3
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Your the smartest person we've ever talked to and your asking us for advice for a textbook ?? And posting how you and your gang are gunna fuck with your psyc? This has to be a troll thread. You seem very aragant and not scientificly influential at all. Why would you ask a drug based message board about any of this stuff if your the smartest guy in the world!? This whole thread just makes me lol.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: koods] 2
#18821902 - 09/10/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not fake. This is one of the top 5 most worthless replies I've ever seen. I can literally, absolutely guarantee you that you're (internet-wise) talking to the most influential person to science that you've ever interacted with.
Yep, troll thread. Everyone knows sociology is not science.
yeahhh you're right. stillnox isn't some scientist phd. Hes a 20 year old tripster
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: koods]
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I dunno. I've met a lot of delusional undergrads and I would probably place him more in that category. Doesn't take a psychiatrist to spot one (though I'm sure his did)
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Dorian Gray]
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What is PGS?
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: koods]
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Parallel giant slalom?
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: koods]
#18821918 - 09/10/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Postgraduate student.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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Are your gang bros white supremacists? I've never heard of any legit white gang that wasn't in to white power.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Dorian Gray]
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The OP's merits aside, I'm just interested in the reading material he's offering; a candid blend of scientific commentary and comedic genius written in Archaic Greek Spanglish.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty]
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Postgraduate student.
Really? I've never seen that before. Is a new thing? A European thing?
I just reread the post where OP says "he's a member of PGS." I don't think postgraduate student is the correct answer in this case.
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Dude. Pull you unexperienced head out of your ass. You're turning yourself into a joke
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Dorian Gray]
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Dorian Gray said: Are your gang bros white supremacists? I've never heard of any legit white gang that wasn't in to white power.
DMI, Dead Man Inc, a prison gang out of baltimore...i have a few friends who joined them while in jessup (baltimores prison) they have close ties to the black guerrilla family, in fact they actually carried out some hits for them at one point 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Man_Incorporated
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: trippinballs420]
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trippinballs420 said: nox what exactly does this gang do? traffic drugs? murder for hire? extortion? run open air drug markets? offer protection? rob people? grand theft auto? pimpin hoes n tricks?
or ride bicycles together and all bang one chick(probably a dude) at the same time?
That's what I intend to find out... that's the point of research, after all. From what I know at this point though, it's a bit of a hybrid. They don't do any extreme violence, but are getting into drug trafficking. They also have a ranking system, as well as dues that have been amassed into a fund they use both as an emergency resource and as a way to help members with endeavors such as starting a business, or affording food if they get kicked out (as often happens with the types of kids they are).
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Dorian Gray said: DXM Shamans don't get their "research" published anywhere but the trip report section of Erowid.
this is also true
Too late to poo-poo on this front; I was a co-author in a publication in a top 2% scientific journal two years ago, at age 21.
THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT, though:
""""""""""It's not fake. This is one of the top 5 most worthless replies I've ever seen. I can literally, absolutely guarantee you that you're (internet-wise) talking to the most influential person to science that you've ever interacted with."""""""""""
Is absolutely out of my ass... I was drunk to the point I don't remember writing this part of my reply, and feel free to write this off as the product of both alcohol-induced grandiosity and my shot-confidence-induced propensity to try to play myself up.
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huffinglue said: Your the smartest person we've ever talked to and your asking us for advice for a textbook ?? And posting how you and your gang are gunna fuck with your psyc? This has to be a troll thread. You seem very aragant and not scientificly influential at all. Why would you ask a drug based message board about any of this stuff if your the smartest guy in the world!? This whole thread just makes me lol.
In order to study them properly, I'm not going to be a part of the "gang" any more, although they've said I can call upon them to terrorize that psych if I need to. And it's not "my" psych.
This particular drug based message board is comprised largely of college-aged people and was a logical choice, especially since I don't want to bother with registering on another, perhaps more specialized forum.
It needn't be said any more than as follows, but you shouldn't doubt my intellect. Again, I'm already published and my membership in such organizations as Phi Kappa Phi and Poetic Genius Society (which I abhor the name of) ought to be sufficient to shut you trolls the hell up if nothing else. This also answers what PGS is.
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Fire is Born said: Dude. Pull you unexperienced head out of your ass. You're turning yourself into a joke
... I feel you're kind of off-base here. I AM unexperienced and I'm looking to take care of my lack of background in this sort of research. In fact, THIS THREAD'S WHOLE POINT WAS ME ASKING FOR A LITTLE DIRECTION to help me remove my inexperience as an obstacle.
Also, I'm well aware I'm not going to revolutionize, or--to play on that drunken and shameful bit of grandiosity from earlier--even INFLUENCE social science with what I'm hoping to do here, but I do want to learn, understand, and share what I find. To that end, I realize that I'll be publishing through an undergraduate sociology journal rather than the journal Nature or some other tome of influence/pristige.
I am curious as to how you think I'm making myself into a joke? I've been a little dumber than normal lately (i.e. that DXM to help me with statistics stunt /cringe), and I doubt some of my drunken, asinine grandiosity helped, but at the same time I'd have thought I'm finally becoming the person I used to be and am at the core, who is worth taking seriously. Can you give me any meaningful feedback/criticism? PM me if you'd like, as these faults--if real--could certainly be spilling over into meatlife and affecting me and those around me negatively in that venue too.
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Dorian Gray said: Are your gang bros white supremacists? I've never heard of any legit white gang that wasn't in to white power.
DMI, Dead Man Inc, a prison gang out of baltimore...i have a few friends who joined them while in jessup (baltimores prison) they have close ties to the black guerrilla family, in fact they actually carried out some hits for them at one point 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Man_Incorporated
That's interesting to know about the white supremacy thing. This gang, (no longer, or never having been) "mine", isn't white supremacist, or even racist. I thought they were rather dumb at first, but in talking to their leader, I've found him to actually be very competent and to even be a bit of an intellectual, albeit one primarily devoted to the gang world.
Another thing that sets this gang apart is that they, VERY CURIOUSLY I would contend, do not have any interest in other gangs, either interacting with them or stomping them out or acquiring their turf or anything else. They're more an organization to serve their own members ends, primarily protection as well as having power readily available to exert if they should ever find themselves in a position where they need to do so.
I do hope this thread may continue with more useful information about gangs, as well as as an opportunity for me to address any curiousities any of you have.
Or better yet, perhaps someone who's studying sociology can give me a book suggestion, if the one they used was good of course.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: The Vapor]
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your gang members get kicked out of their parents house?
dude you really need to find a better gang haha
also http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Sociology-Barry-A-Staples/dp/159602710X
i used that sociology book in one of my classes, it might help you if you can find it online or something
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: trippinballs420]
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your gang members get kicked out of their parents house?
dude you really need to find a better gang haha
also http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Sociology-Barry-A-Staples/dp/159602710X
i used that sociology book in one of my classes, it might help you if you can find it online or something
That they live with their parents in the first place is but one of the iconoclastic features of this gang, which is a lot of what makes me want to study them.
I have actually read some of that book. We used that book in my honors intro sociology class, and while I really need something that will guide me on the mechanics and process OF conducing research in sociology, I think I'll thumb through that book to get a feel for how sociology seems to be done.
Perhaps I'll even end up modelling how I do this and the final product after something in this. The fact that you also happened to randomly use that book, I think, speaks loudly that perhaps it's one of the best available. Thank you much for the suggestion, buddy and I'll see you around DTChat. We also need to figure out that (Greeting/Holiday/Thank You) card situation as I think getting into that is the right thing for me to do.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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yeah man, DTchat hasnt been working for me for the past few weeks but we'll have to get in touch another way
but about that sociology book, its funny, my professor at lackawanna college was barry staples, one of the writers of the text book and if i remember right that book has a pretty good lay out of how to do a sociological research project
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: koods]
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trippinballs420 said: yeah man, DTchat hasnt been working for me for the past few weeks but we'll have to get in touch another way
but about that sociology book, its funny, my professor at lackawanna college was barry staples, one of the writers of the text book and if i remember right that book has a pretty good lay out of how to do a sociological research project 
We only used that book as a supplement and I didn't realize it outlines doing sociological research. Frankly, with teaching on top of taking the most honors classes at once anyone's been able to get all A's in at my uni, I didn't end up doing much of the reading as we got further into the class, although I still got TONS out of the course.
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You ought to read the parts of my long, super-reply that concern you. I'm trying to decide if it's worth ignoring you simply to keep myself from wasting time addressing your naysaying, but I've come to love my posse of haters... moreso than that, I think you'll come around yet, especially if I end up following through and succeeding in this research endeavor.
I've also just been enlisted by my former psychiatrist of all people to help try to solve some issues in Philosophy of Science that are posing problems to the guy's CLINICAL research (isn't that fascinating?), so whether this gang thing ends up being worth it or coming to fruition, I'll already be concurrently involved in a much more solid, established research pursuit.
Yay! Just so excited.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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st1llnox said: Too late to poo-poo on this front; I was a co-author in a publication in a top 2% scientific journal two years ago, at age 21.
me said article, if you don't then I know for sure you're a joke.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: trippinballs420]
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you need to go into the hood and meet some real motha fuckin gs nigga
those kids would probably cry if you took their bikes away
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Yo synthe your sig is fucked up man. Its cut in half and ship .jpeg quality. Just write VivaLaMushie said: "whatever" but not like a pic
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Synthe]
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Stillnox I'm interested in what qualifies your white boy gang as a gang instead of a click or just group of friends. This is a good question to address in your paper A good example of a real white gang is P9 out of Orange County..those peckerwoods don't fuck around!
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trippinballs420 said: your white boy gang is a buncha pussies from the suburbs
you need to go into the hood and meet some real motha fuckin gs nigga
those kids would probably cry if you took their bikes away
those kids would probably pull out a 38 and blast your ass into the ground if you came close to touching one of their bikes
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Magicman69]
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Magicman69 said: Stillnox I'm interested in what qualifies your white boy gang as a gang instead of a click or just group of friends. This is a good question to address in your paper A good example of a real white gang is P9 out of Orange County..those peckerwoods don't fuck around!
WOW, PERFECT!!! I was already worried that my paper might end up more a statistical description of commonalities in interviews and a description of how the group works, rather than an actual exploration, and this is a perfect--and important point--to address.
I'll also research P9, as well as gangs generally. Thanks so much for your helpful input!
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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Do they have disputes with other gangs or are those "dues" and "powers" that they have just for "incase". I don't think you can even call yourself a group if you just parade around together selling drugs if you haven't even been challenged to defend each other to the end. You did say they didnt do and serious violence. If they don't have competition or haven't had to fight then I'd be wary of showing them much respect for then they'd just be domestic terrorists. Just like to fuck with people and do things that make em seem dangerous when they're just bunch of punks.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: LethargicBeing]
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LethargicBeing said: Do they have disputes with other gangs or are those "dues" and "powers" that they have just for "incase". I don't think you can even call yourself a group if you just parade around together selling drugs if you haven't even been challenged to defend each other to the end. You did say they didnt do and serious violence. If they don't have competition or haven't had to fight then I'd be wary of showing them much respect for then they'd just be domestic terrorists. Just like to fuck with people and do things that make em seem dangerous when they're just bunch of punks.
They do not, as far as I know, participate in the "other gang" scene. The resources are just in case, but as I mentioned above they also are there to be employed by members. For example, one is trying to start a business and the gang is funding his startup costs. Your point about not being valid as this kind of group is a good point, but here's the thing: they do address, as a single entity, anybody that crosses them so while they are not in conflict directly with other gangs, they do handle opposition in the same way traditional conflicts by gangs are handled. This includes 2 main aims, which is both to exact practical revenge but also (and I may be reading too much in here) to send a message. Essential to this, and explicative of it, is their gang's aim to make sure members are both protected and taken care of.
I'm not particularly concerned with showing them respect or whatnot... I'm simply the resident Philosophy/CompSci major trying on a Sociologist hat, you know? I may ask if they have any feelings about how their lack of inter-gang conflicts may affect on others respect and perceptions of their legitimacy.
Thank you, as well, for your useful reply!
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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REAL advice:
Go to JSTOR and look up real sociological studies into urban or suburban gangs.
I advise to not look at undergraduate sociological studies, as these are not the kind of work you should be trying to emulate if you want to do real research.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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WOW, PERFECT!!! I was already worried that my paper might end up more a statistical description of commonalities in interviews and a description of how the group works, rather than an actual exploration, and this is a perfect--and important point--to address.
I'll also research P9, as well as gangs generally. Thanks so much for your helpful input!
wow can you answer the mans question lol? what makes them a gang? sounds like a group of broke friends trying to figure out a way to make some money...
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mylfgur said: REAL advice:
Go to JSTOR and look up real sociological studies into urban or suburban gangs.
I advise to not look at undergraduate sociological studies, as these are not the kind of work you should be trying to emulate if you want to do real research.
Or talk to someone that actually knows their ass from their elbow when it comes to human subjects research. You don't just start collecting data you need IRB approval, consent forms, institutional backing etc. I always support research, but this isn't even close to "professional."
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Kinko]
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mylfgur said: REAL advice:
Go to JSTOR and look up real sociological studies into urban or suburban gangs.
I advise to not look at undergraduate sociological studies, as these are not the kind of work you should be trying to emulate if you want to do real research.
This is a great suggestion, and I think looking at some "real" studies of this sort and trying to model off of them is a great idea. However, I still plan on getting through some sort of "how to" just to make sure I don't overlook anything process-wise that could benefit the end result.
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WOW, PERFECT!!! I was already worried that my paper might end up more a statistical description of commonalities in interviews and a description of how the group works, rather than an actual exploration, and this is a perfect--and important point--to address.
I'll also research P9, as well as gangs generally. Thanks so much for your helpful input!
wow can you answer the mans question lol? what makes them a gang? sounds like a group of broke friends trying to figure out a way to make some money...
What qualifies them is that they fit squarely into the essential definition of a gang: an organized group of criminals. However, the many aspects of this group that don't conform to the stereotypical notion of what a gang is are largely what's driving me to want to do this study. Also, much of what my paper is going to deal with is exactly what you and others picked up on and I think that the exploration of what it means to be a gang and what constitutes being such an entity is going to be one of the main focusses of my paper.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: Gorlax]
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let me guess: you're going to take drugs with this group of people in order to further your "research".
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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Does this "gang" know that you are gay?
Is it an all white gay gang?
If this is so then your paper might be interesting.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: fee]
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I am having a hard time believing this is a gang. Acting as a group for revenge? What kind of situations are we talking here because every real gang I know of that isnt just a bunch of riled up young dumbasses trying to look tough requires you to handle your own shit like a man 1v1 with fists. Like if someone steals a pound of bud from them then yeah, group action will and should be taken because that's a lot and it affects the whole group, but if someone steals a members girl, or like your situation, a professional something or other was just a douche being douchey at their job, then just handle that shit yourself, don't ask your friends to help you fix something that you should be able to fix.
Also, the funds thing makes this sound like a very young group. Please tell me they at least have someone over 25 leading them. Otherwise I doubt this a very serious group of individuals. You said they weren't violent and if they are actually in need of group funds then its not prostitution so last thing is drugs. Just a bunch of drugs dealers doing their thing then? IDK but I can tell you that wherever you live there have to be better subjects. I mean if they aren't nationally recognized they don't seem successful enough to be worth studying as these can just be bad phases in people lives. Watch Ganglands for a bit and then say with a straight face that these people are on the level that hose gangs are on and it might be worth studying.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: LethargicBeing]
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millzy said: let me guess: you're going to take drugs with this group of people in order to further your "research".
You really are a dolt, aren't you? Do you think my genomics publication was an excuse to do drugs, or done on any higher amount of drugs than I'd normally do?
Go harass people on soberrecovery.com if you need an appropriate venue to castigate those who continue to use drugs.
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fee said: Does this "gang" know that you are gay?
Is it an all white gay gang?
If this is so then your paper might be interesting.
Yes, no (unfortunately).
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Also, the funds thing makes this sound like a very young group. Please tell me they at least have someone over 25 leading them. Otherwise I doubt this a very serious group of individuals. You said they weren't violent and if they are actually in need of group funds then its not prostitution so last thing is drugs. Just a bunch of drugs dealers doing their thing then? IDK but I can tell you that wherever you live there have to be better subjects. I mean if they aren't nationally recognized they don't seem successful enough to be worth studying as these can just be bad phases in people lives. Watch Ganglands for a bit and then say with a straight face that these people are on the level that hose gangs are on and it might be worth studying.
This is all stuff I'm going to find out about and explore the implications of. For now, they're indeed a gang as they qualify under the ubiquitously-accepted definition of gangs as "an organization of criminals".
There are certainly better subjects here, but I wouldn't dream of seeking them out and frankly, exploring this curiosity is simply the result of this opportunity falling into my lap. I know little to nothing about gangs, short of what DARE taught me and minor glimpses of how they work that drug documentaries sometimes show.
You seem to be coming toward what is actually a worry of mine, which is that instead of actually BEING a gang, they may simply be a loose collective of friends who want to BECOME a gang. This isn't a rational fear at this point however, with what I do know of their past, although it is still a possibility.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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You really are a dolt, aren't you? Do you think my genomics publication was an excuse to do drugs, or done on any higher amount of drugs than I'd normally do?
Go harass people on soberrecovery.com if you need an appropriate venue to castigate those who continue to use drugs.
you know, i recall trying to help you while everyone else was shredding you to pieces about your drug use. but you're losing me with whatever you're doing here, especially if you're serious about having them harass your psychiatrist. but maybe i'm just a dolt and am not on your level.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: millzy]
#18825943 - 09/10/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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millzy said: let me guess: you're going to take drugs with this group of people in order to further your "research".
You really are a dolt, aren't you? Do you think my genomics publication was an excuse to do drugs, or done on any higher amount of drugs than I'd normally do?
Go harass people on soberrecovery.com if you need an appropriate venue to castigate those who continue to use drugs.
you know, i recall trying to help you while everyone else was shredding you to pieces about your drug use. but you're losing me with whatever you're doing here, especially if you're serious about having them harass your psychiatrist. but maybe i'm just a dolt and am not on your level. 
I was being too reactive and I owe you an apology. I was seeing that as mainly you trying to pull me down and discourage my research interests or simply say that you don't think I have anything to offer as an academic that's worth taking seriously (your quotation marks around research especially got me on this other false trail).
I think I understand what you actually meant now, and I've now embarassed myself and treated a rather caring acquaintance on here like a total ass. I didn't realize you meant primarily, or quite likely *only*, to comment about the rather immature and shameful ways I've allowed myself to foray past the proper boundaries of moderation in drug consumption that I think are especially important to keep in mind for someone like myself.
And damn, I really do need to work on making my temper less volatile and to get used to thinking, analyzing, and looking for interpretation I may be rage-blinding myself to before I act. You're a good person, Millzy. Do you accept my apology?
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18826097 - 09/11/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty]
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I think you're lying. What was your publication about?
He has never produced any proof of this great feat he accomplished.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: fee]
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: fee]
#18826156 - 09/11/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think you're lying. What was your publication about?
He has never produced any proof of this great feat he accomplished.
Yeah, someone was asking for a link. They didn't ask for an ID necessary for establishing it's actually me, so I throw a pic of my school idea their way with the link on the BioMed Central site and they can come in and hopefully let you guys know I'm legit.
As big a deal as this is to me (and still ought to be to anyone who feels they're entitled to have an opinion on me as an academic), I worked on it and made meaningful contributions, but I'm one of around 20 people on it (6th or so author as I recall, so up there but not the corresponding author for sure) and while I've got a lot to offer academia (as professors have echoed), I'm no Einstein (but neither was Einstin in real life, as in the stunning child and young-adult prodigy we'd expect given his name's equivalence with "genius").
This thread's getting overly fixated about me though. I really hope at some point the shroomery collectively takes me seriously, but people seem to extrapolate and bleed their ill-gotten opinions of me based on my foolishness, personal stuggles, and wildness into their opinions of me as an intellectual.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: fee]
#18826168 - 09/11/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have any of the members of the gang served any serious time in jail/prison?
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: ChinChiller]
#18826171 - 09/11/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also, what is the average age of the members?
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: ChinChiller]
#18826178 - 09/11/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its not a gang man, just a bunch of underage dweebs riding around on their bicycles with pieces of plastic cup mounted on their bikes so it makes a roaring sound while they ride cause it hits the wheel spikes.
And yes unless OP me that paper I'm 100% sure he is lying.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: ChinChiller]
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Errolscool said: Have any of the members of the gang served any serious time in jail/prison?
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mellowparty said: Its not a gang man, just a bunch of underage dweebs riding around on their bicycles with pieces of plastic cup mounted on their bikes so it makes a roaring sound while they ride cause it hits the wheel spikes.
And yes unless OP me that paper I'm 100% sure he is lying.
It's a gang. You've got about 2 seconds worth of due diligence to do to verify this. Look up the definition of a gang. I'm not going to explain this a third time in the same thread.
I have no idea why anyone here doubts me at all. I'll PM you the Biomed Central link, and I don't want to send you a picture of my ID just cause I don't want it hosted on Shroomery. So, reply to my PM with your email address and I'll send you an email from my university email address and we can establish that I am the person on the page that way.
I'm not going to help you guys indulge if you would like to try to nitpick and find other ways to doubt me. After all, my last doctor who was witness to the last 2 years of drug and other catastrophes, as of today, has enlisted me to help on his research and to collaborate on working out an ontological issue in Philosophy of Science. Nobody's fucking therapist hires them as a research assistant and collaborator, and hypercertainly they don't hire anyone who's dumb for such a sort of thing.
Now, I have a BMC Genomics publication link to PM and after this, I hope mellowparty will let you know that I've followed through and that we can quit wasting time talking about this. I scored in the top substantially less than one percent on my college entrance exams, if nothing else will pacify ya'll; so, suck it or shut up and get back on topic.
Adjacent to this point, I appreciate the lines of inquiry about this 'gang' from some of you and I'm enjoying and benefiting from responding to them.
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I'd say it's around 17 or 18.
No serious time, although the police know that they exist as an entity and many individual members have their own past with the law, but as individuals (since it seems that making sure doings don't get legally pinned on members seems to be high on their priorities).
I'm not getting super excited about their legitimacy as a gang, but supposedly there's over $10,000 they've amassed. I trust the kid that told me that, and that's totally conceivable given that they collect $10/paycheck from each member who has a job and have likely been doing so for some time. That said, I simply cannot believe that until I see it but if/when I do, I'm quite excited and feel this will help speak to their legitimacy as a gang (and one worth studying!), making my paper seem certainly much less trivial.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18826250 - 09/11/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OH SHIT!!! I was looking up that paper to link mellowparty and it's now also been archived as part of an area of the NIH's literature library. THE PAPER I COAUTHORED IS NOW ALSO HOSTED BY THE NIH. Awesome .
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18826254 - 09/11/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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But I still haven't seen a paper
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty]
#18826263 - 09/11/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Check your PM's... I hit send right as you replied there. I would like to again stress that what I feel you owe me in outing my real full name to you is you posting for my slew of poo poo-ers on here that I wasn't lying.
And do so without treating us to any further commentary or speculation, either bad or good. It's simply irrelevant and all this focus on me is absolutely stupid and is wasting everyone's time. This thread only has about 1.5 pages worth of posts on it, yet it's bloated to its current state...
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty]
#18826265 - 09/11/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK, now you only have to send me a scan of your ID just to make sure that your name is in the authors list. Nice paper btw, I think I'm going to read up on bioinformatics more.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty]
#18826283 - 09/11/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: OK, now you only have to send me a scan of your ID just to make sure that your name is in the authors list. Nice paper btw, I think I'm going to read up on bioinformatics more.
I can't risk having my ID hosted in a picture here. Can I get your email address so I can establish that way?
Actually no, school ID would be most epistemologically sturdy. You're gonna end up with my full name and middle initial... would it be fair to ask you to PM me your phone number so I can just text you a pic of the ID? I REALLY want to avoid a picture of a photo ID of myself being hosted on shroomery, even if this is more about personal comfort than it is actually of any practical concern, but still...
I think you may disappointingly find that the paper is not so much groundbreaking in its niche of science so much as it is showcasing what our omics resource has to offer and showing how to do it. I'd offer to point you to things that may be closer to what you're after, but to be completely honest this isn't really my field. That said, bioinformatics is a fascinating field of study and will illuminate some interesting things that have implications way outside of its confines as a field. Unfortunately, the HUGE majority of what bioinformatics comprises is rather drab and inconsequential, focusing essentially on "dayummm biology has a lot of data, so lets teach scientists some basic programming and help them automate processing". The more general digital biology would likely be of more interest to you, although it's got this same problem. It's also possible that this isn't actually the crux of what bioinformatics actually looks like as a field and that my impression of it as being such is simply a testament to my statement that this is not my field and I'm probably not the one to ask.
The last I'd like to say is that the paper's big but there are plenty of other reasons I ought to be considered a formidable intellectual, or at least respected or taken seriously. This infatuation you all have with the messenger in the case of me is very unhealthy though and wastes time, so I hope this largely allays this in the future.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18826303 - 09/11/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey St1llnox - I just feel the need to address all the doubts and concerns I'm reading on this post. In my opinion it's not that people doubt your intellect or credentials; you are clearly an extremely articulate, verbose and logical being. But everytime you reiterate aforementioned credentials it rubs people the wrong way. Or rather, it inherently suggests you seek positive reinforcement or validation. Some would say this is a sign of insecurity and people tend to jump on weaknesses like a dog on a bone. But the skepticism and cyncism in those very same replies is a sign of weakness too, only of a different nature. People always have something to prove. People here on The Shroomery ESPECIALLY have something to prove, we're all part of a subculture with strong social stigmas and we come from diverse socio-economic backgrounds with differing issues. Whether people go about this through belittling others or through rational discourse, the underlying root is the same. There is a very, very fine line between humility and truth. Truth without humility is doomed to become an "arrogant caricature" of truth, as Gandhi would say.
We all need to embrace our inner "meta-attitude that constitutes the moral agent's proper perspective on himself as a dependent and corrupt but capable and dignified rational agent".
In other words, people just need to chill the fuck out. You're cool.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: junkyardgod]
#18826321 - 09/11/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you seek positive reinforcement or validation.
I'm had! I'll get to that, but thank you so much for explaining this to me. I'm not good at reading people and have trouble understanding what's behind some of the behavior I see in response to me sometimes, so this is great... thanks so much.
Anyway, YOU FUCKING WIN, and GET THIS MAN A CIGAR. You figured out what one of the worlds top psychiatrists (who I'm going to start working with on research October 1st) did not pick up on after treating me for 2 years:
I am a broken person, confidence wise. Ex psychdoc inviting me to research with him yesterday/today was the first time I've felt actual confidence in literally 2 years. You see, I spent 1.5 months in a psych hospital early in 2011 and I haven't been the same since.
The grandiosity seen in some of my posts that comes out when I'm drunk or dissociated, as well as the crumbs of "look how awesome I am" strewn about my tenure on the forum, aren't actually because I think I'm god's gift... I am, on the inside, terrified that the accomplished person I was is gone and getting outside affirmation to the contrary is a(n ultimately counter productive) attempt to feel better about it.
Hopefully with this newfound real confidence I'm starting to get, this propensity will gradually diminish and I will, in the meantime, start to try to self-intervene to keep this in check as I go.
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We all need to embrace our inner "meta-attitude that constitutes the moral agent's proper perspective on himself as a dependent and corrupt but capable and dignified rational agent".
In other words, people just need to chill the fuck out. You're cool. 
Your post accurately explains me, explains what I need to know about why I'm seeing the responses I've been wasting time with, illuminates some truths about people and the shroomery that are good to know, brings up a psychological feature common to our subcommunity, states a couple of important truths surrounding subtle distinctions, and finally offering a very precise (and delightfully worded!) solution.
You're fucking legit dude and this reply was fantastic. I'm going to go ahead and hand on over the "God's Gift to the Shroomery" title belt I've been wearing. Apparently I've only been using it cosmetically anyway
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
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Actually I just realized further vindication for your theory that this is largely a byproduct of how I'm dealing with insecurity:
It makes total sense that even if not a single person here doubts me as an intellectual, that THAT would be what I pick up on them as saying and assume they mean as that's what I'm really receptive of to the point of being very emotionally fragile about it and consequently defensive.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox]
#18826341 - 09/11/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: OH SHIT!!! I was looking up that paper to link mellowparty and it's now also been archived as part of an area of the NIH's literature library. THE PAPER I COAUTHORED IS NOW ALSO HOSTED BY THE NIH. Awesome .
Looking further around the site and I need to correct that apparently THIS MEANS NOTHING WHATSOEVER in all likelihood as regards how good this paper ended up being or not being. I didn't realize PubMed was a government thing (a hazard of doing work outside your field), and this leads me to believe it's simply an archival/cataloguing effort rather than anything that speaks about the paper itself causing it to be on an NIH page.
So, must humbly revise.
Let's keep this thread gang-related from now on, except for when mellowparty posts to confirm that he's verified me as being one of the authors on that publication.
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Re: [Sociology Majors???] My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: st1llnox] 1
#18826436 - 09/11/13 03:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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trippinballs420 said: nox what exactly does this gang do? traffic drugs? murder for hire? extortion? run open air drug markets? offer protection? rob people? grand theft auto? pimpin hoes n tricks?
or ride bicycles together and all bang one chick(probably a dude) at the same time?
That's what I intend to find out... that's the point of research, after all. From what I know at this point though, it's a bit of a hybrid. They don't do any extreme violence, but are getting into drug trafficking. They also have a ranking system, as well as dues that have been amassed into a fund they use both as an emergency resource and as a way to help members with endeavors such as starting a business, or affording food if they get kicked out (as often happens with the types of kids they are).
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Dorian Gray said: DXM Shamans don't get their "research" published anywhere but the trip report section of Erowid.
this is also true
Too late to poo-poo on this front; I was a co-author in a publication in a top 2% scientific journal two years ago, at age 21.
THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT, though:
""""""""""It's not fake. This is one of the top 5 most worthless replies I've ever seen. I can literally, absolutely guarantee you that you're (internet-wise) talking to the most influential person to science that you've ever interacted with."""""""""""
Is absolutely out of my ass... I was drunk to the point I don't remember writing this part of my reply, and feel free to write this off as the product of both alcohol-induced grandiosity and my shot-confidence-induced propensity to try to play myself up.
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huffinglue said: Your the smartest person we've ever talked to and your asking us for advice for a textbook ?? And posting how you and your gang are gunna fuck with your psyc? This has to be a troll thread. You seem very aragant and not scientificly influential at all. Why would you ask a drug based message board about any of this stuff if your the smartest guy in the world!? This whole thread just makes me lol.
In order to study them properly, I'm not going to be a part of the "gang" any more, although they've said I can call upon them to terrorize that psych if I need to. And it's not "my" psych.
This particular drug based message board is comprised largely of college-aged people and was a logical choice, especially since I don't want to bother with registering on another, perhaps more specialized forum.
It needn't be said any more than as follows, but you shouldn't doubt my intellect. Again, I'm already published and my membership in such organizations as Phi Kappa Phi and Poetic Genius Society (which I abhor the name of) ought to be sufficient to shut you trolls the hell up if nothing else. This also answers what PGS is.
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Fire is Born said: Dude. Pull you unexperienced head out of your ass. You're turning yourself into a joke
... I feel you're kind of off-base here. I AM unexperienced and I'm looking to take care of my lack of background in this sort of research. In fact, THIS THREAD'S WHOLE POINT WAS ME ASKING FOR A LITTLE DIRECTION to help me remove my inexperience as an obstacle.
Also, I'm well aware I'm not going to revolutionize, or--to play on that drunken and shameful bit of grandiosity from earlier--even INFLUENCE social science with what I'm hoping to do here, but I do want to learn, understand, and share what I find. To that end, I realize that I'll be publishing through an undergraduate sociology journal rather than the journal Nature or some other tome of influence/pristige.
I am curious as to how you think I'm making myself into a joke? I've been a little dumber than normal lately (i.e. that DXM to help me with statistics stunt /cringe), and I doubt some of my drunken, asinine grandiosity helped, but at the same time I'd have thought I'm finally becoming the person I used to be and am at the core, who is worth taking seriously. Can you give me any meaningful feedback/criticism? PM me if you'd like, as these faults--if real--could certainly be spilling over into meatlife and affecting me and those around me negatively in that venue too.
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Dorian Gray said: Are your gang bros white supremacists? I've never heard of any legit white gang that wasn't in to white power.
DMI, Dead Man Inc, a prison gang out of baltimore...i have a few friends who joined them while in jessup (baltimores prison) they have close ties to the black guerrilla family, in fact they actually carried out some hits for them at one point 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Man_Incorporated
That's interesting to know about the white supremacy thing. This gang, (no longer, or never having been) "mine", isn't white supremacist, or even racist. I thought they were rather dumb at first, but in talking to their leader, I've found him to actually be very competent and to even be a bit of an intellectual, albeit one primarily devoted to the gang world.
Another thing that sets this gang apart is that they, VERY CURIOUSLY I would contend, do not have any interest in other gangs, either interacting with them or stomping them out or acquiring their turf or anything else. They're more an organization to serve their own members ends, primarily protection as well as having power readily available to exert if they should ever find themselves in a position where they need to do so.
I do hope this thread may continue with more useful information about gangs, as well as as an opportunity for me to address any curiousities any of you have.
Or better yet, perhaps someone who's studying sociology can give me a book suggestion, if the one they used was good of course.
Sure. You're an egomaniac. I guarantee you there are far more intellectual people here that don't feel the need to continously ssy what a genius they are. I know you genuinely think you're some sort of prodigy. You're a smart guy sure....but nothing else suggests you're beyong that. You're not that funny but continuously make threads that are usually screaming "look at me" The statements you made about your intellect are ridiculous. ...drunk or not. I can't help but think you do really believe that but maybe humble yourself a little more when sober. Take a note from Shulgins book and stfu. Your babbling ego attracts flak like a fucking tank.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: fee]
#18827169 - 09/11/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: Do you think my genomics publication was an excuse to do drugs
I think you're lying. What was your publication about?
He has never produced any proof of this great feat he accomplished.
My name is on an academic paper as well. I was an intern in a lab at NIH in college and ran western blots for the lead researcher. I did grunt work. There were about 20 names on that paper,
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: koods] 1
#18827235 - 09/11/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: My name is on an academic paper as well. I was an intern in a lab at NIH in college and ran western blots for the lead researcher. I did grunt work. There were about 20 names on that paper,
As you know, different labs and institutions have different standards for authorship. I know some investigators that routinely put their lab technicians on papers, others refuse to do so.
This is why the first (or senior) author is what matters most. Often the corresponding author is the PI of the lab, and his/her name appears last.
The names in the middle, meh, nobody really cares. I'm amazed OP continues to boast about this paper as if he won the noble prize. The reality is that it's pretty insignificant.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: badchad]
#18827279 - 09/11/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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badchad said: The reality is that it's pretty insignificant.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: mellowparty]
#18827322 - 09/11/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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wtf. The only white gangs that ive heard of are like skinheads. Haha white boy gang.. Thier probably like sixteen year olds that just steal money out of thier mom's purse and shoplift gas stations.They live in suburbs and they got into a few a fights and now they think thier a gang.
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Re: My white-boy gang has agreed to let me write a sociological paper on them [Re: jtv56]
#18827704 - 09/11/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: My name is on an academic paper as well. I was an intern in a lab at NIH in college and ran western blots for the lead researcher. I did grunt work. There were about 20 names on that paper,
As you know, different labs and institutions have different standards for authorship. I know some investigators that routinely put their lab technicians on papers, others refuse to do so.
This is why the first (or senior) author is what matters most. Often the corresponding author is the PI of the lab, and his/her name appears last.
The names in the middle, meh, nobody really cares. I'm amazed OP continues to boast about this paper as if he won the noble prize. The reality is that it's pretty insignificant.
I've actually been trying to shut everyone the fuck up about it once and for all. Care to oblige?
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jtv56 said: wtf. The only white gangs that ive heard of are like skinheads. Haha white boy gang.. Thier probably like sixteen year olds that just steal money out of thier mom's purse and shoplift gas stations.They live in suburbs and they got into a few a fights and now they think thier a gang.
They're a little more interesting than that, possibly a lot.
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