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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18823414 - 09/10/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys are fucking ignorant, watch the video fools



The video doesn't show them buying a functional nuke warhead.  They show a detonator, but they don't show the bomb.  Sounds like bullshit to me.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18823427 - 09/10/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys are fucking ignorant, watch the video fools



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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18823428 - 09/10/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How odd that you'd leave out "a baseball bat, and some MA experience".




How is that odd? An old or disabled person probably can't do much for themselves in regards to hand to hand fighting, are you suggesting we take away their alternatives?

I'm in relatively good shape, so I have a greater ability to avoid using lethal force than someone in worse shape than me. That doesn't mean I disapprove of them using lethal force.

Your arbitrary argument is based on a false assumption


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: Konyap]
    #18823437 - 09/10/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I once created a weaponized strain of Ebola, but I must have written the recipe down wrong because the next time I tried to make it, it came out looking like a strawberry tart. 

It didn't taste half bad either.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: Enlil]
    #18823439 - 09/10/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys are fucking ignorant, watch the video fools



The video doesn't show them buying a functional nuke warhead.  They show a detonator, but they don't show the bomb.  Sounds like bullshit to me.



They said it could be used for a dirty bomb, which is EASILY obtainable if you've ever watched European crime movies.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: greencrush420]
    #18824115 - 09/10/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not polite to answer a question with a question! So why does anyone need a reason to buy a weapon?



tens of thousands of people accidently shoot people every year
tens of thousands also shoot themselves
thousands use handguns in murders

I dunno, you tell me?



:lolwut:
1. Hunters in Ohio harvested 218,910 deer last season, and that is just one state. Over 8 million deer are harvested annually by hunters in the United States. That is just one species of game, you then have turkey, elk, moose, squirrel, rabbit, duck, grouse, bear, boar, etc. How about that for a reason to have a firearm? FOOD, now Stfu.
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thousands use handguns in murders



You said it yourself, people use guns to murder. It only makes sense that I have one to defend myself with. Guess what, the cities with the most murders, are the cities in which guns are banned. I live in a rural part of West Virginia, there have been no murders in my town, and only a few in the whole county, in the last 20 years. Care to guess why? Because every home has a firearm in it. You don't break into a house to rob/commit murder/etc., when you know the person on the other side of that door has a loaded shotgun leaning against their bedpost.




Exactly, in places where there is not murder, 5x the amount of people that would've been murdered die on a hospital table after shooting themselves.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: Konyap]
    #18824165 - 09/10/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And thank God for that.  Anyone who shoots himself, either by accident or on purpose, is doing the world a huge favor.  The last thing we need is his genes replicating.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: Konyap]
    #18824320 - 09/10/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not polite to answer a question with a question! So why does anyone need a reason to buy a weapon?



tens of thousands of people accidently shoot people every year
tens of thousands also shoot themselves
thousands use handguns in murders

I dunno, you tell me?



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1. Hunters in Ohio harvested 218,910 deer last season, and that is just one state. Over 8 million deer are harvested annually by hunters in the United States. That is just one species of game, you then have turkey, elk, moose, squirrel, rabbit, duck, grouse, bear, boar, etc. How about that for a reason to have a firearm? FOOD, now Stfu.
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thousands use handguns in murders



You said it yourself, people use guns to murder. It only makes sense that I have one to defend myself with. Guess what, the cities with the most murders, are the cities in which guns are banned. I live in a rural part of West Virginia, there have been no murders in my town, and only a few in the whole county, in the last 20 years. Care to guess why? Because every home has a firearm in it. You don't break into a house to rob/commit murder/etc., when you know the person on the other side of that door has a loaded shotgun leaning against their bedpost.




Exactly, in places where there is not murder, 5x the amount of people that would've been murdered die on a hospital table after shooting themselves.



:lolwut: State your source for that statistic. I have only known one person who committed suicide in my entire life, and he hung himself.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: greencrush420]
    #18824376 - 09/10/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/11/guns-child-deaths-more-than-cancer/2073259/

well I guess they meant the people that offed themselves and not just accidental shootings.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: Konyap]
    #18824580 - 09/10/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see anywhere in there that it says this.
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in places where there is not murder, 5x the amount of people that would've been murdered die on a hospital table after shooting themselves.




The article that you quoted seems to suggest that there would be less gun violence if guns were banned. The opposite is true.
Here is a quote from Thomas Jefferson's commonplace book.
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laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes ... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man




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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: greencrush420]
    #18824603 - 09/10/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's a news pamphlet for moms that comes in the sunday paper

I'm just saying that owning guns is a major responsibility and I'd personally not want one in my house.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: Konyap]
    #18824653 - 09/10/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I recently bought a 1950's Russian SKS for $214 and change Canadian, it comes with 3 "strip clips" and the spring-activated bayonet.

A gun shop 45 mins away from me sells surplus 7.62 ammunition crates from Bulgaria and Russia, the Bulgarian crates of ammo are $260 for 1400 rounds, and the Russian crates are $280 for 1260, the Russian ammo is a little better, less corrosive.

Magazines for the rifle are $60 for 30 round mags, but they've put a rivet through the magazine to make them a legal 5 round limit in Canada.

That rivet is easily removed though :wink:


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: Konyap]
    #18824660 - 09/10/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It is definitely a major responsibility, and anyone who isn't ready to handle and use them responsibly shouldn't have them. I agree with you there. :thumbup: I got my first gun, a 4-10, when I was 8, and I was taught how to handle one responsibly and ethically from that young age. My son will be taught the same. Don't buy all of the prohibitionist prevarication that the nanny state like to spew to you over your morning coffee (I'm not saying you do, just saying maybe you should put more thought into the matter). In my state, all students are offered the chance to take a hunter safety course in the 7th grade, and in high school, we shot .22 and .177 caliber rifles in JROTC and competed in marksmanship with JROTC students from other schools. You read right, WE SHOT GUNS IN SCHOOL. Guess what, nobody got shot. Disarming the honest man only gives the dishonest man more power.


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    #18824752 - 09/10/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)





This is the new toy, the idea is "family self defense"

And with clips that can be easily changed into 30-rounders, with a few buddies having a couple crates of 1200+ rounds of ammo each, we're ready for family defense just in case.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: AmazonianGuru]
    #18824772 - 09/10/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude just get an AR, they're better guns. You can find one for 600-700, atleast last I checked.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #18824801 - 09/10/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm in Canada, I don't think I can, they're "Prohibited" weapons.

Canada, you have your "non-restricted" "restricted" and "prohibited"

I have my non restricted, because it's easier to obtain than the restricted, which is like handguns and etc. prohibited is almost impossible unless your grandfather owned a weapon.

Like I said, it's for defense man, they're a good, reliable gun, and the ammo is cheap, we got new stocks for the, they're the polymer stocks, they don't melt after use, we tried hahah!


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #18825389 - 09/10/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude just get an AR, they're better guns. You can find one for 600-700, atleast last I checked.




what makes an AR a better gun? there are somethings people like more about them, but overall the consensus is that AK is far more reliable and powerful.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: SurReality]
    #18825558 - 09/10/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude just get an AR, they're better guns. You can find one for 600-700, atleast last I checked.




what makes an AR a better gun? there are somethings people like more about them, but overall the consensus is that AK is far more reliable and powerful.



Better probably wasn't the best choice of a word.

I like AR's because of how customizable they are. If you don't like something (trigger for example) parts are much more readily available to tailor it to your liking. They also are more generally more accurate and have a flatter trajectory. For someone that likes shooting for fun, or even a home defense weapon, I think the AR makes more sense. If you keep your guns clean and lubed, reliability shouldn't be an issue.



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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: SurReality]
    #18825619 - 09/10/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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But to answer your question, no its not good deal. A good deal would be $400 or less.




for a new rifle?? where do you find deals like that?





you don't.

$800-$1000 for a new semi-auto AK is the going rate in the USA.


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Re: Anyone know if this is a fair deal for an AK47? [Re: SurReality]
    #18825631 - 09/10/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the irony is that ammo for AK is cheaper than .45... i would have saved money if i bought an AK instead of a pistol WTF





shells for a .45 are very high.
it's a big chuck of lead and it only comes in a brass casing.
about $1 a bullet still or has the price gone up?

if yours just looking for something to shoot beer cans with get 9mm


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