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SpitballJedi
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CitizenErased said: Isn't that a risk if it's not fully colonized?
Where in the world is this coming from? I keep hearing people say this.
I also keep hearing people saying that the polyfill on a monotub is used to filter the air.
That's because people like to repeat what they hear without actually understanding. It happens so much that people reading think "so many people say it, so it must be true"
If only there were some way to identify the cultivators you could trust. And then if those cultivators could somehow make and post a record of how they do stuff.
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Stromrider
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Well aren't you a smarty pants tonight
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SpitballJedi
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cynical bastad
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dumb question of the day:
I've been keeping an eye out for how to sterilize the liner...nobody has said anything about it, that i've found. Is it because sub being pasteurized and spawn being fully colonized it's less resistant? Or are the smurfs wiping w/ alcohol while sleeping?
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cynical bastad said: dumb question of the day:
I've been keeping an eye out for how to sterilize the liner...nobody has said anything about it, that i've found. Is it because sub being pasteurized and spawn being fully colonized it's less resistant? Or are the smurfs wiping w/ alcohol while sleeping? 
Spawning/fruiting is not a sterile process, and if using trash bags they should be sterile off the roll anyways...
Yes, pasteurized bulk substrate material is contam resistant, just like fully colonized spawn....
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mason man
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cynical bastad said: dumb question of the day:
I've been keeping an eye out for how to sterilize the liner...nobody has said anything about it, that i've found. Is it because sub being pasteurized and spawn being fully colonized it's less resistant? Or are the smurfs wiping w/ alcohol while sleeping? 
Never hurts to sanitize. I had bags sitting under the sink for a long time... ripped off two bags and used the third haha. The two I ripped off will be used for actual trash.
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Stromrider
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Good thinking
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CitizenErased
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Welp, I went to put the tub into fruiting today and it's contaminated. Bunch of grey along the edge where the liner was folded over and big spot of trich right in the middle. Needless to say, this is quite discouraging. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Seeing as how this hasn't even begun fruiting yet, is there any chance anything will come out of it? I can't put it outside like I've heard to do, but I do have a garage.
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Skinty
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CitizenErased said: Welp, I went to put the tub into fruiting today and it's contaminated. Bunch of grey along the edge where the liner was folded over and big spot of trich right in the middle. Needless to say, this is quite discouraging. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Seeing as how this hasn't even begun fruiting yet, is there any chance anything will come out of it? I can't put it outside like I've heard to do, but I do have a garage.
I'd refer you back to what you said about not pasteurising properly - maybe you sterilised yr bulk...
If you have some friends you could invite them over and have a little party in your garage
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Nice Ol Bud
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Re: Liner question [Re: Skinty]
#18827334 - 09/11/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Since were already on the subject. Could I possible line the tub from the outside with a black bag if properly secure? I'd just figure it's less stuff in the Mono.. This less worries of contaminants. I already know about coir and it's resistance.. but I prefer to do it on the outside of the mono. Any suggestions? Thanks everyone!
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SpitballJedi
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No. You missed the point of the liner. The liner goes inside to prevent side pins. If you put it on the outside, it would do nothing.
Use the search feature (UTSF) and search "side pins" or "side pinning" to discover what we are talking about doing with the liner.
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abltsandwich
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Notahacker420 said: 10 days or less usually for me....
If it looks fully colonized, not necessarily pure white, but colonized....you can fruit it.
So you don't advocate any consolidation period?
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mason man
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Re: Liner question [Re: Skinty]
#18828076 - 09/11/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
If you have some friends you could invite them over and have a little party in your garage 
Do internet friends count?
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Skinty
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mason man said:
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Skinty said:
If you have some friends you could invite them over and have a little party in your garage 
Do internet friends count?
Only if I'm invited  
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Nice Ol Bud
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SpitballJedi said: No. You missed the point of the liner. The liner goes inside to prevent side pins. If you put it on the outside, it would do nothing.
Use the search feature (UTSF) and search "side pins" or "side pinning" to discover what we are talking about doing with the liner.
I'm more then fully aware of side pins. Thanks though.. found my answer from someone more informatable & helpful LOL.
Hope this helps others! <3
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Bstsneverr said: During colonization i have them in a giant trash bag, and then i check on it on day ten if it needs more time i take it out on day 15 and i drop the bag to substrate level then tape it. Ive never had any real issues with side pinning, the only time i get them is by second flush but the substrate already substantially shrunk from the sides of the bins so i like them popping up there, they grow just fine IMO.
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Nice Ol Bud said:
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SpitballJedi said: No. You missed the point of the liner. The liner goes inside to prevent side pins. If you put it on the outside, it would do nothing.
Use the search feature (UTSF) and search "side pins" or "side pinning" to discover what we are talking about doing with the liner.
I'm more then fully aware of side pins. Thanks though.. found my answer from someone more informatable & helpful LOL.
Hope this helps others! <3
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Bstsneverr said: During colonization i have them in a giant trash bag, and then i check on it on day ten if it needs more time i take it out on day 15 and i drop the bag to substrate level then tape it. Ive never had any real issues with side pinning, the only time i get them is by second flush but the substrate already substantially shrunk from the sides of the bins so i like them popping up there, they grow just fine IMO.
When the liner is on the inside and the substrate shrinks it takes the liner with it and as the liner is still attached to the substrate it eliminates side pins completely (I don’t use one but for different reasons).
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Nice Ol Bud
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Re: Liner question [Re: Doc_D]
#18828401 - 09/11/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doc_D said:
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Nice Ol Bud said:
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SpitballJedi said: No. You missed the point of the liner. The liner goes inside to prevent side pins. If you put it on the outside, it would do nothing.
Use the search feature (UTSF) and search "side pins" or "side pinning" to discover what we are talking about doing with the liner.
I'm more then fully aware of side pins. Thanks though.. found my answer from someone more informatable & helpful LOL.
Hope this helps others! <3
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Bstsneverr said: During colonization i have them in a giant trash bag, and then i check on it on day ten if it needs more time i take it out on day 15 and i drop the bag to substrate level then tape it. Ive never had any real issues with side pinning, the only time i get them is by second flush but the substrate already substantially shrunk from the sides of the bins so i like them popping up there, they grow just fine IMO.
When the liner is on the inside and the substrate shrinks it takes the liner with it and as the liner is still attached to the substrate it eliminates side pins completely (I don’t use one but for different reasons).
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PussyFart
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abltsandwich said:
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Notahacker420 said: 10 days or less usually for me....
If it looks fully colonized, not necessarily pure white, but colonized....you can fruit it.
So you don't advocate any consolidation period?
Nope.....not for bulk.....
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Nice Ol Bud
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Notahacker420 said:
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abltsandwich said:
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Notahacker420 said: 10 days or less usually for me....
If it looks fully colonized, not necessarily pure white, but colonized....you can fruit it.
So you don't advocate any consolidation period?
Nope.....not for bulk.....
Why not? Wouldn't it fruit faster if, for-say, a mono if it consolidated for extra 2 days then fruited? I wouldn't imagine pinning would be more heavy and that you'd get a more even pin set.
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PussyFart
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Consolidation is only for highly nutritious substrate material, like BRF....
They fruit right at 100% for me....
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