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jonnymushroom
the man of many teks

Registered: 07/27/13
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So saliva can show you oevs and give you as much insight as dmt ?
How are the oevs on dmt compared to saliva are they very real like oevs or only entities seen by cevs?
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excalibur127
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Registered: 09/01/13
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I distinguish between two kinds of entities: the memories, and the creations.
In my trips I often hear and see the presence of people I know or have known in my life. They appear to speak in the same voice as usual and are often just replaying old memories. It's not quite the same as just reliving a memory, it's more like they are individually there, acting their parts in that particular memory. It is weird to describe but this is what most people have regularly it seems.
Then there are the creations, the entities that are completely new to you and seem to exist in a more sovereign state. They can communicate with you in a more verbose way and sometimes give you insights or advice.
To compare, I often have memories on something like LSD or 25i but I only get creations on DMT.
But apart from being raped by them and then having the weirdest sex with some intergalactic godly women, I'm afraid I didn't get the chance to receive a lot of enlightenment from them
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clemens
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jonnymushroom said: So saliva can show you oevs and give you as much insight as dmt ?
How are the oevs on dmt compared to saliva are they very real like oevs or only entities seen by cevs?
Salvia does come with OEVs but the drug is very different from DMT.
DMT is sharp crystallize visuals, audible hallucinations and the feeling of being shot out of a psychedelic cannon into hyperspace. (feels more real then real life)
Salvia is more like a weird dream? Feels like you fall into a diagonal flip book of reality. Been a really long time since i have done salvia but i also remember it made me sweat really hard and the pins and needle feeling all over my body.
but when you smoke dmt or salvia you cant really tell if your eyes are open or not. The entities can be seen with your eyes open or eyes shut. I know for sure because people that watched me told me i had my eyes open when I smoked a break through dose of dmt and was absolutely completely submerged in hyperspace with an elf on the end of each arm.
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jonnymushroom
the man of many teks

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Wow thats great stuff man, well not the part about being raped thats a little messed up.
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treid2
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Re: Entities? [Re: zzripz]
#18819911 - 09/09/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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treid2 said: HONESTLY, I was about to start a thread asking the same question. Only, I saw the entities you are asking about, and wanted to know if anyone else had a similar experience.
I posted a thread ("Tonight! Tonight!") about a week ago asking for some good vibes as I was about to embark on my first heroic dose alone and in the dark. I had eaten 10 grams a month earlier, so it wasnt the amount that made me nervous, just the being alone and in the dark.
Up until now, I was beginning to question any vivid hallucinations from mushrooms, as I had never really seen anything other than illumination of color and perhaps wavy objects, due to increase in light intake. HOWEVER, when I was alone in the dark, it was like a 3 hour DMT trip, and the first time I had ever encountered the entity, made up of infinite entities, which exists and actually is you (it reassures you of this all throughout the experience, but it does it by building conflict and then resolving it into nothingness; I said in my original thread that night "They have a barbaric sense of humor.")
It was indescribable...but very real, and I feel like, though my eyes were pinned shut, it felt like they were fully opened. It was ecstatic, and life-affirming.
The entities are very kind... but they will mess with you for their own amusement, and they can be easily seen or felt, whatever, from psilocybin... but you must be alone in the dark, and I would encourage, right when you feel it getting to the point (you will know; approx 1:15 - 2 hrs. in) start smoking herb, and you are catapulted into what it is the mushrooms are trying to show you. They are tools of evolution... but you must be willing to go it alone, in the dark... if ever want to get there.
FEEDBACK PLEASE! anyone who has seen or felt this experience.
Please link me to your "tonight tonight" post please?
Let me know what you think.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18696060
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lessismore
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Re: Entities? [Re: treid2]
#18819973 - 09/09/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It usually feels like some loving/caring entity, on lsd/shrooms
and like it knows you, and other people well
the messages it gives you are always at the right time to evolve from important messages
and also messages that work for other people often
i.e. how to focus your attention to be happy or how to cure yourself if you are physically sick and have been sick for a long time with nothing working, then that worked or god thoughts sometimes on lsd
after being in trance you often know what to say to other people to help, feels like you know them
but no words can describe, I just find that it is often after the experience something communicates through me it feels like, when trying to help others
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treid2
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mio said: It usually feels like some loving/caring entity, on lsd/shrooms
and like it knows you, and other people well
the messages it gives you are always at the right time to evolve from important messages
and also messages that work for other people often
i.e. how to focus your attention to be happy or how to cure yourself if you are physically sick and have been sick for a long time with nothing working, then that worked or god thoughts sometimes on lsd
after being in trance you often know what to say to other people to help, feels like you know them
but no words can describe, I just find that it is often after the experience something communicates through me it feels like, when trying to help others
Completely agree... nobody will ever find the right words to describe the voyage. I'm an English major and the voyage has caused me to believe, at least when I'm on the voyage, that communication (words etc) is the FIRST source of all confusion... the fact that words will never suffice but we believe they will in daily culture.
But, the poet knows this... he knows words do not suffice, and yet he still tries to find the words that will suffice... it is the paradox of his existence.
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