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How to deal with a drunk/angry person?
    #18819508 - 09/09/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So my buddy is typically a pretty calm dude. Displays very little emotion except happiness. Which is why I found the event last night pretty surprising. I was caught off guard

So I after a little kickback, I am chilling on his couch. I am tipsy and really high. He was pretty drunk too

We decide to play a gears of war as some food is heating and the vaporizer is heating up. As I move my couch slightly (I couldn't reach the xbox controller), he FLIPS. "WTF dont move the couch like that it will ruin the hardwood flooring". I respond "fuck, my bad" and we both pick it up and move it slightly. Then we play and i still feel that I am stretching a little much. The intoxicated state I am, I forget that he has hardwood flooring and move the couhc by dragging it a little. HE FLIPS. I havent seen him flip like this in years. "WTF DUDE HOW FUCKIN STUPID ARE YOU? FOR FUCKS SAKE DON'T MOVE THE COUCH". I say "Oh shit my bad, I honestly didnt mean too fuck it up". "HOW FUCKIN DUMB ARE YOU? I WANT TO SOCK YOU IN THE FACE". Then I tried to calm him down. He had a right to be angry and annoyed. but not THIS angry. "Calm down dude. just take a deep breath" "I am going to fuckin sock you in the face" "Dude you are losing control right now just listen to me and take a deep breath. I dont think you realize how irrational you are being". I try to goad him into being calm but I make him angrier as a result. He yells "I AM FUCKNIG CALM!" and charges at me and socks me in the chest. I pushed him over really quick on his table. I am the last person to want to fight someone. I am a pretty weak and lanky myself. Anyways, I decide then to give him what he wants. "I am sorry dude I didnt realize it was that big of a deal to you". We shook hands on it and made up pretty quick. But I am kind of annoyed I never really got an apology. Nobody has a good reason to get physical over an issue

What should I have said to him then? What should I say to him now?


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18819567 - 09/09/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What should I say to him now?




fuck your couch

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naw, unless he starts flipping out all the time, id just forget about it, he was probably stressed out or drug psychosis or something

it happens :shrug:

in his defense you did do it twice, maybe his floors are expensive

edit: i dont know how to suggest to people to get help for anger management issues, id wait for someone whos delt with this stuff before to chip in


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18819608 - 09/09/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:


What should I say to him now?




fuck your couch

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naw, unless he starts flipping out all the time, id just forget about it, he was probably stressed out or drug psychosis or something

it happens :shrug:

in his defense you did do it twice, maybe his floors are expensive

edit: i dont know how to suggest to people to get help for anger management issues, id wait for someone whos delt with this stuff before to chip in



I mean I guess. If it becomes a HUGE issue I wont go over to his house. maybe he is just OCD about his stuff or has some shit going on. I just needed advice on how to calm someone down in that moment?


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18819632 - 09/09/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

honestly i dont think there is a good way to calm them down other than giving into their bullshit till they sober up


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18819667 - 09/09/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I lol'd at that story
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honestly i dont think there is a good way to calm them down other than giving into their bullshit till they sober up



But mhmmm :whathesaid: Just gotta let em do their thing unless it's endangering someone.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18819669 - 09/09/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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honestly i dont think there is a good way to calm them down other than giving into their bullshit till they sober up



ya i figured. I just need him to acknowledge that it isnt good getting that uncontrollably angry


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18819670 - 09/09/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nobody has a good reason to get physical over an issue




I can name off plenty of reasons for resorting to violence, the only limit to how large that list will become is time and patience.

Your friend sounds like a serious asshole, I would cut him off for good. Personally I can drink a 5th to the face with weed, no rage problems like that - so I wouldn't excuse that behavior in someone else regardless of how much they drank. Not for moving a couch a few inches.

Do what you will though :shrug:


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18819681 - 09/09/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nobody has a good reason to get physical over an issue




I can name off plenty of reasons for resorting to violence, the only limit to how large that list will become is time and patience.

Your friend sounds like a serious asshole, I would cut him off for good. Personally I can drink a 5th to the face with weed, no rage problems like that - so I wouldn't excuse that behavior in someone else regardless of how much they drank. Not for moving a couch a few inches.

Do what you will though :shrug:



Lol in this scenario he was being absoltely irrational. Normally he is really tame. No matter how drunk or wired I have seen him he was pretty calm


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18819705 - 09/09/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do what you see fit man, can only say if someone rages on me for something so small I'd be very offended and would cut them off. Pretty prone to cutting people off


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #18820375 - 09/09/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like he might have some underlying issue with you :shrug:, i mean i have never experienced someone get that angry over a little thing either. Unless there was another issue which was giving him stress and he couldn't cope with that 1 thing being done, might even be a OCD tick of his ?






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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18824871 - 09/10/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
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topdog82 said:

Nobody has a good reason to get physical over an issue




I can name off plenty of reasons for resorting to violence, the only limit to how large that list will become is time and patience.

Your friend sounds like a serious asshole, I would cut him off for good. Personally I can drink a 5th to the face with weed, no rage problems like that - so I wouldn't excuse that behavior in someone else regardless of how much they drank. Not for moving a couch a few inches.

Do what you will though :shrug:



Lol in this scenario he was being absoltely irrational. Normally he is really tame. No matter how drunk or wired I have seen him he was pretty calm




You gotta love it.  Person A says "dude don't fuck with my hard wood"  Person B says "OK".  10 mins later Person B jacks the fuck out of Person A's hardwood.  Person A calls Person B on it.  Person B goes gee uh sorry bro.

Person A likely had a build up of such stuff over time hence "the snap" on Person B.  That's my guess.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18827798 - 09/11/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like one to be avoided completely


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18828015 - 09/11/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I just needed advice on how to calm someone down in that moment?




Sometimes it's not possible to calm a person down. Going by your story he wasn't being reasonable, so what could you do? You could get all ape shit with him and maybe get to the bottom of it but you don't owe him that. Time to reassess the relationship IMO. Cut him off and if he asks (while sober) tell him you don't care to hang out with unpredictable drunk fuckers. That's the passive way to calm him down, by revealing the consequences of treating you that way. And then you talk about it, MAYBE leave open a 2nd chance if he feels some remorse and understands you don't put up with being treated like that. Of course it might not change his disposition when drunk so if you talk the talk be ready to walk the walk.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Rahz]
    #18828071 - 09/11/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I just needed advice on how to calm someone down in that moment?




Sometimes it's not possible to calm a person down. Going by your story he wasn't being reasonable, so what could you do? You could get all ape shit with him and maybe get to the bottom of it but you don't owe him that. Time to reassess the relationship IMO. Cut him off and if he asks (while sober) tell him you don't care to hang out with unpredictable drunk fuckers. That's the passive way to calm him down, by revealing the consequences of treating you that way. And then you talk about it, MAYBE leave open a 2nd chance if he feels some remorse and understands you don't put up with being treated like that. Of course it might not change his disposition when drunk so if you talk the talk be ready to walk the walk.



best respnse here

@everybody else; I am not gonna ditch this guy without a second chance. He is a goddamn bro


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18828698 - 09/11/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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He is a goddamn bro




Good enough reason for me :shrug: if someone tries to get physical with me I wouldn't be hanging out with them


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Rahz]
    #18829702 - 09/11/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I just needed advice on how to calm someone down in that moment?




Sometimes it's not possible to calm a person down. Going by your story he wasn't being reasonable, so what could you do? You could get all ape shit with him and maybe get to the bottom of it but you don't owe him that. Time to reassess the relationship IMO. Cut him off and if he asks (while sober) tell him you don't care to hang out with unpredictable drunk fuckers. That's the passive way to calm him down, by revealing the consequences of treating you that way. And then you talk about it, MAYBE leave open a 2nd chance if he feels some remorse and understands you don't put up with being treated like that. Of course it might not change his disposition when drunk so if you talk the talk be ready to walk the walk.



Sounds manipulative to me. You could just be straight up with him?


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: HalfLight]
    #18829721 - 09/11/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I just needed advice on how to calm someone down in that moment?




Sometimes it's not possible to calm a person down. Going by your story he wasn't being reasonable, so what could you do? You could get all ape shit with him and maybe get to the bottom of it but you don't owe him that. Time to reassess the relationship IMO. Cut him off and if he asks (while sober) tell him you don't care to hang out with unpredictable drunk fuckers. That's the passive way to calm him down, by revealing the consequences of treating you that way. And then you talk about it, MAYBE leave open a 2nd chance if he feels some remorse and understands you don't put up with being treated like that. Of course it might not change his disposition when drunk so if you talk the talk be ready to walk the walk.



Sounds manipulative to me. You could just be straight up with him?






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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: HalfLight]
    #18830439 - 09/11/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Rahz said:
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I just needed advice on how to calm someone down in that moment?




Sometimes it's not possible to calm a person down. Going by your story he wasn't being reasonable, so what could you do? You could get all ape shit with him and maybe get to the bottom of it but you don't owe him that. Time to reassess the relationship IMO. Cut him off and if he asks (while sober) tell him you don't care to hang out with unpredictable drunk fuckers. That's the passive way to calm him down, by revealing the consequences of treating you that way. And then you talk about it, MAYBE leave open a 2nd chance if he feels some remorse and understands you don't put up with being treated like that. Of course it might not change his disposition when drunk so if you talk the talk be ready to walk the walk.



Sounds manipulative to me. You could just be straight up with him?




It was a bit harsh. I would probably ask what was up next time I saw him to see what he said as opposed to 'cut him off', especially if he's a friend or whatever. I don't take well to people flipping out though. Not my problem.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Rahz]
    #18831900 - 09/12/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol at the people complaining about him getting physical.. have you never been wasted with friends?!?

anyways it's something you should just brush under the couch lol. Alcohol can completely alter someone's perspective. Honestly alcohol is probably the most mood changing drug I've seen. I know plenty of kids who are the coolest mellowest people but if they are wasted they become angry/irrational. just roll with it when he gets pissed..no reason to react, someone who is drunk is never RATIONAL!

I kind of have this problem now with a friend. We all get pretty fucking wasted on the weekends (I've been taking a break though) and he has been increasingly more not "violent" but angry. about a month ago he punched some kid he knew in the face..then like 2 weeks after he got really pissed at my other friend and pushed him b/c he didn't want to go to the club ..nothing happened. about 2 weeks ago he pushed another friend right out of no where for a reason that was irrational as fuck..

and he finally pissed me off the other weekend by accusing me of stealing something from someone when I didn't..trying to get me to pay for it when I never took the item.. "this really pissed me off because my other friends said he was complaining in the car about how I prob did take it and wouldn't admit to it, while my other friend who was in the car that did take it owned him and said no it wasn't me and it was him".. I feel like he keeps increasingly making himself look fucking retarded. I never had a reason to dislike him and now its growing on me after ACCUSING me of stealing.

He's a cool person sober and pretty funny that is what outweighs his drunkenness nights.. I'm just going to give him the cold shoulder for a while because friends shouldn't accuse friends of stealing without any evidence..maybe do the same..


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Gorlax]
    #18832151 - 09/12/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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lol at the people complaining about him getting physical.. have you never been wasted with friends?!?




I've practiced martial arts my whole life, if someone is raging at me and tries to get physical over such a small thing they are not a friend. Violence is no small issue, bones break, blood spills, people die. I'm permanently scarred from street fighting and take threats very seriously.

In my eye if someone is hanging out with someone who treats them like that, they're a beta male.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18832255 - 09/12/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

^ Ok, I have have friends I have known since I was 4 years old and have gotten in minor scuffles with them. I'm not talking about beating each other unconscious but just a few punches..half the time they always miss anyways..all because we were fucking wasted. next morning we laugh about it.. If you got that alpha male mentality I see it hard to ever keep a friendship. :shrug: We're all equal dude


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Gorlax]
    #18832412 - 09/12/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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^ Ok, I have have friends I have known since I was 4 years old and have gotten in minor scuffles with them. I'm not talking about beating each other unconscious but just a few punches..half the time they always miss anyways..all because we were fucking wasted. next morning we laugh about it.. If you got that alpha male mentality I see it hard to ever keep a friendship. :shrug: We're all equal dude




I've got a lot of friends, more than most because the nature of my travels. They're all transient though.
If someone yells at me or tries to become violent with me, they're cut off. Its only happened with a few people, out of thousands so I know they're not worth having around.

Letting someone get away with that kind of behavior, maybe when I was a kid but on the occasions its happened in the past few years I've walked away without a word and never spoke to those individuals again. That sort is 1 in 100, not worth my time.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Gorlax]
    #18832414 - 09/12/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:shrug: We're all equal dude




Doesn't seem like your friend thinks that way, you're already walking on glass around him.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18832490 - 09/12/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol idk maybe are friendships are different. to me it's like two brothers arguing. I'm not talking about getting metal pipes and smashing each other over the head. :shrug:


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Gorlax]
    #18832533 - 09/12/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If one of my brothers acted like that towards me I wouldn't talk to them either, we're not kids anymore. I respect myself and expect my friends to as well, they don't get that from me and I won't tolerate it from them.

Its a matter of respect, its fine to spar for fun, to get in a fight over something serious, but the situation in OP crosses the line for me.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18832664 - 09/12/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that reason is stupid almost sounds like an opiate outburst.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Gorlax]
    #18833058 - 09/12/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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^ Ok, I have have friends I have known since I was 4 years old and have gotten in minor scuffles with them. I'm not talking about beating each other unconscious but just a few punches..half the time they always miss anyways..all because we were fucking wasted. next morning we laugh about it.. If you got that alpha male mentality I see it hard to ever keep a friendship. :shrug: We're all equal dude



yeah I feel this way too. There is no real "right" asnwer

If a little kid punches you, you arent gonna flip? Similarly, when you go out for a night of drinking, I think it is fair to expect some of us will be less lucid than otherwise had we been sober


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18833088 - 09/12/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If a little kid punches you, you arent gonna flip? Similarly, when you go out for a night of drinking, I think it is fair to expect some of us will be less lucid than otherwise had we been sober




A little kid is a little kid. A grown man is a whole other story, alcohol isn't an excuse for being a loser


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18833101 - 09/12/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:

If a little kid punches you, you arent gonna flip? Similarly, when you go out for a night of drinking, I think it is fair to expect some of us will be less lucid than otherwise had we been sober




A little kid is a little kid. A grown man is a whole other story, alcohol isn't an excuse for being a loser



I guess your entitledto your opinion. but onve again, i disagree


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18833183 - 09/12/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If a little kid punches you, you arent gonna flip? Similarly, when you go out for a night of drinking, I think it is fair to expect some of us will be less lucid than otherwise had we been sober




A little kid is a little kid. A grown man is a whole other story alcohol isn't an excuse for being a loser



I guess your entitledto your opinion. but onve again, i disagree



Me too Rep. To me it sounds like you have a very different idea of friendship than most people, and those thousands of friends you spoke of are probably not what I would consider friends.
What I would consider a friend is someone that I'd take a punch for.
Also the alpha/beta male thing is something to be :lol:'d at, especially while claiming others act like little kids. Personally, I'd rather be a child than a wild animal.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: HalfLight]
    #18833432 - 09/12/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If it starts to get serious, then I say, do you want to take this outside? Well? Do ya?


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Yage]
    #18833782 - 09/12/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If it starts to get serious, then I say, do you want to take this outside? Well? Do ya?




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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: HalfLight]
    #18833804 - 09/12/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If a little kid punches you, you arent gonna flip? Similarly, when you go out for a night of drinking, I think it is fair to expect some of us will be less lucid than otherwise had we been sober




A little kid is a little kid. A grown man is a whole other story alcohol isn't an excuse for being a loser



I guess your entitledto your opinion. but onve again, i disagree



Me too Rep. To me it sounds like you have a very different idea of friendship than most people, and those thousands of friends you spoke of are probably not what I would consider friends.
What I would consider a friend is someone that I'd take a punch for.
Also the alpha/beta male thing is something to be :lol:'d at, especially while claiming others act like little kids. Personally, I'd rather be a child than a wild animal.




Well come to the jungle. 



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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #18833969 - 09/12/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok lets get drunk and i will fuck you up to show you that I'm the alpha male.

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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: HalfLight]
    #18833980 - 09/12/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Me too Rep. To me it sounds like you have a very different idea of friendship than most people, and those thousands of friends you spoke of are probably not what I would consider friends.
What I would consider a friend is someone that I'd take a punch for.
Also the alpha/beta male thing is something to be :lol:'d at, especially while claiming others act like little kids. Personally, I'd rather be a child than a wild animal.




I found that last comment about being a child versus wild animal pretty ironic, I'm too civilized to tolerate someone yelling at me or physically confronting me. Its grounds to cut the person off permanently.

My idea of a friend is someone who respects me, someone I respect. You do not yell at someone you respect without damn good reason, alcohol is not a valid reason and neither is adjusting a seat.

Have fun hanging out with ignorant brutes.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18834150 - 09/12/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There is no reasoning with drunk people once they get to a certain point.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Gorlax]
    #18834207 - 09/12/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Ok lets get drunk and i will fuck you up to show you that I'm the alpha male.

:goodluckwiththat2:




Whatever.  You would pass out long before actually taking a swing at me.  Drink for drink, then bring it on.  I could fucking drink you under the table.  Fuck me up?  Yeah after you die of fucking alcohol poisoning.  I'm sure.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #18834221 - 09/12/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no reasoning with drunk people once they get to a certain point.




You are so full of it.  Gimmmeeee a fucckkkingg breeaaakkk.  (gotta make clear mods know this is sarcasm, as i've already been warned once this week)


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #18834371 - 09/12/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no reasoning with drunk people once they get to a certain point.




You are so full of it.  Gimmmeeee a fucckkkingg breeaaakkk.  (gotta make clear mods know this is sarcasm, as i've already been warned once this week)




Yeah I have to agree with you, even if you can't control yourself past a certain point its your responsibility not to get to that point. As an adult

Personally I've drunk to blackout many times and know full well that I have more control than that, alcohol isn't a blanket excuse for being a loser


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18834403 - 09/12/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no reasoning with drunk people once they get to a certain point.




You are so full of it.  Gimmmeeee a fucckkkingg breeaaakkk.  (gotta make clear mods know this is sarcasm, as i've already been warned once this week)




Yeah I have to agree with you, even if you can't control yourself past a certain point its your responsibility not to get to that point. As an adult

Personally I've drunk to blackout many times and know full well that I have more control than that, alcohol isn't a blanket excuse for being a loser




Yeah we understand, you are capable of getting blackout drunk, many times, yet will never forgive a friend who threatens you once.

You are frankly someone who I wouldn't want to drink with. 

You seem willing to call someone a loser for losing it even once. 

Blanket excuse this.  I would say it in Italian, but don't speak Italian.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #18834435 - 09/12/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I would say it in Italian, but don't speak Italian.




:youseethisshit:



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Yeah we understand, you are capable of getting blackout drunk, many times, yet will never forgive a friend who threatens you once.

You are frankly someone who I wouldn't want to drink with. 

You seem willing to call someone a loser for losing it even once. 




I should correct myself, I never get blackouts - I meant to say passout as in fall asleep. Even after drinking a 5th to the face I've never yelled at anyone belligerently or attacked someone without good reason.

If I don't like someone I get rid of them, you're going back on ignore for the Italian comment :shrug:


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18834688 - 09/12/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:dawerp:


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18834816 - 09/12/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not everyone is the same, some people understand that if they are an angry drunk they should stop drinking at a certain point, but some people don't have that kind of responsibility and do as they please.

Drugs can impair people greatly and no matter how much "self control" you think you have people can still act out under a drugs influence

But no one should use "oh I was just fucked up on ___, it's not my fault" as an excuse


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #18834847 - 09/12/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not everyone is the same, some people understand that if they are an angry drunk they should stop drinking at a certain point, but some people don't have that kind of responsibility and do as they please.

Drugs can impair people greatly and no matter how much "self control" you think you have people can still act out under a drugs influence

But no one should use "oh I was just fucked up on ___, it's not my fault" as an excuse



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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18834917 - 09/12/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly my point, I've had people wanna get physical bc they thought they were sober enough to do something but they couldn't stand straight!


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18838948 - 09/13/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I would say it in Italian, but don't speak Italian.




:youseethisshit:



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Yeah we understand, you are capable of getting blackout drunk, many times, yet will never forgive a friend who threatens you once.

You are frankly someone who I wouldn't want to drink with. 

You seem willing to call someone a loser for losing it even once. 




I should correct myself, I never get blackouts - I meant to say passout as in fall asleep. Even after drinking a 5th to the face I've never yelled at anyone belligerently or attacked someone without good reason.

If I don't like someone I get rid of them, you're going back on ignore for the Italian comment :shrug:




You "get rid of them"?  See what I mean?  I should have wopped you upside your head when I had the chance Guido.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #18844668 - 09/15/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

One of the reasons I hate drinking with people is because at some point during the night someone can't seem to handle their shit.

This is why I always bring weed with me whenever I go drink with people. People start getting angry and emotional and shit and I say "smoke this motherfucker". And usually they end up chilling out pretty damn quick. I dont mind smoking someone else up, even if I dont like them just so they won't ruin my night.


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Re: How to deal with a drunk/angry person? [Re: topdog82]
    #18845262 - 09/15/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It sounds like your friend has some internal issues to work through.

I've never quite understood why people act out on alcohol, it's not something I can relate to. I've been involved with violence a few times while drunk. 
It was always some other witless drunk, belligerent bastard(s).
The last time was a bar fight that I got pulled into for trying to break it up. It was fucking absurd, drunk idiots coming out of no-where throwing punches.

I personally attribute people acting like that while drunk to a level of incognizance that permeates their sober mind as well.
I also recall reading in this fat psychopharmacology book a buddy has that such behavior has been found to be culturally relevant to a degree larger than you would imagine.

A few years back, a close buddy of mine was going through an almost divorce. :rolleyes:
We went camping to take his mind off shit and brought alcohol.
Whilst buying it, I looked him dead in the eyes and said, "You want to drink, but if I buy this, you need to promise me not to project all this shit onto me." Got the spiel, OH YA YA, BLAH BLAH BLAH"
Sure shit, midnightish rolls around and he takes something I say RADICALLY out of context and stands up and starts to shout 'YOU THINK YOU'RE SUPERIOR TO ME!?" Over and over. I could tell he wanted to try and fight me but knew it wouldn't end well.
Long story short, I confiscated all sharp objects and cleaned the wounds he acquired through his tantrum. He didn't say a word to me the next morning, let alone apologize.

I didn't take it personally, as in the end, that kind of shit has way more to do with the person acting out than it does the other.
I just find it weak to find a convenient excuse in which to project your issues onto others instead of manning or womaning up and taking the time to look inside and sort it out.


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