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Fuck Papa Johns!
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Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
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Kick his ass 5x
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I had Papa Johns yesterday as well, one of the better pizza chains IMO
And what the fuck is the manager doing bitching at you about a tip, as if that's going to solve anything or make you want to tip more or order from them again.
What exactly did he all say? And what did you reply with? I woulda told him to get fucked and to not call my number ever again.
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Obviously pee up his anus, as if it even needs to be said.
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I mean I really don't get how this conversation went down.
Manager: You didn't tip him enough You: I paid him 5 dollars Manager: You didn't pay enough You: What the fuck
I mean really, I don't see how this went down. 5 dollars is an enormous tip... and they certainly don't call people to complain.
What?
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: EllisDSox]
#18819395 - 09/09/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I tip like 2 bucks mostly. Sometimes if its a frequent guy I'll tip him a tenner.
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i don't think the manager is allowed to do that... you should report him.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
Coincidentally I ordered from Papa Johns 2 days ago myself. The pizza wasn't as good as small-business-pizza-place pizza, but it was better than both Domino's and Pizza Hut. It was like a mile away, I tipped the driver $5 just like you cause I know they get a lot of shitty tips.
I doubt it was actually the manager who called you up, it was probably a disgruntled employee/the driver, but who knows for sure. Go send in a formal complaint and they'll probably give you a free pizza or at least some good coupons.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
I would contact the head person at that restaurant, or someone above that manager and explain what happened, I am sure the manager violated company policy, what he did was blatant harassment.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: cops]
#18819423 - 09/09/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The phone call went along the lines of this
Him: I was just calling to let you know that your house is out of our district, and 5 dollars is hardly an acceptable tip
Me: sorry bro, that's all I had. Take it or leave it.
Him: well, we'll take that into consideration next time you place an order
Me: (in so many words) Fuck off
It sucks because I really enjoy their pizza
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Papa Johns pissed me off last week so fuck 'em. Only ordered there because its the boyfriends favorite, I don't prefer them. Pizza Hut all the way's I'm actually going to order a pizza right meow.
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That's fucking bullshit. Call up the corporate headquarters and ream his ass out. Free pizza.
Manager can't just call and harass you like that. If it really was the manager. The delivery guys tip has nothing to do with him. First of all no one is under any obligation to give a tip in the first place. (although it is common courtesy) And $5 is more than an acceptable tip for a pizza delivery. (Source: used to deliver pizza - $5 is like a high end tip. Got a 20 on a few occasions but extremely rare). Most people tip like $1-2, if at all.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Shroomism]
#18819470 - 09/09/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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probly wasnt the manager
like really, if a manger called me out on not leaving a big enough tip, id be like, maybe you should consider raising your driver salary
5 dollars is about what i leave them (most of the time) ill tip more or less depending on my current financial ability of the time
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Either way, call corporate and bitch. No one should get a harassment call from the pizza place like you didn't tip enough bro.. WTF?
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Shroomism] 1
#18819520 - 09/09/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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$5 tip is a lot, to me. At the most them bastards get $3 from me.
The Chinese man who cooks my beef and broccoli gets $5 because they're awesome.
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Did you get his name and the drivers name? Thats what I would have at least tried to do because thats bullshit.
I wouldn't just drop it. I'd get in contact with that company
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Uzziel said: I mean I really don't get how this conversation went down.
Manager: You didn't tip him enough You: I paid him 5 dollars Manager: You didn't pay enough You: What the fuck
I mean really, I don't see how this went down. 5 dollars is an enormous tip... and they certainly don't call people to complain.
What?
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: The phone call went along the lines of this
Him: I was just calling to let you know that your house is out of our district, and 5 dollars is hardly an acceptable tip
Me: sorry bro, that's all I had. Take it or leave it.
Him: well, we'll take that into consideration next time you place an order
Me: (in so many words) Fuck off
It sucks because I really enjoy their pizza
$5 dollars is an acceptable tip, my usual tip is $5-8 but pretty common for me to throw them a $10 or sometimes a little more especially if they're far away or if I'm not ordering often. If you weren't in their district then why the fuck did they deliver in the first place?
I definitely would have gotten the dudes name and complained, that is just fucking rediculous.
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Herbologist said: Did you get his name and the drivers name? Thats what I would have at least tried to do because thats bullshit.
I wouldn't just drop it. I'd get in contact with that company
This. Like I said, Papa John's is a corporate entity. Call them and/or send an email. Describe what you told us, and how rude/uncalled for that is. I'm positive they do not condone that type of behavior. I bet you get some free pizza out of it.
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Don't ever order from that store again, they'll fuck with your food for sure.
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Man I have managed pizza `joints and driven as well and the only time we had a problem was when the guy tipped the driver like 16 cents. lol the guy says to him obviously you need this more than me and handed the guy 16 pennies. Hey at least we didn't spit in his food.
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I wouldn't take the free pizza if they give you one, they'd probably spit on it or something.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Sheekle]
#18819923 - 09/09/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you should probably stop paying for garbage shaped into pizza shape owned by an evil super rich right wing dickhead. you know, especially considering how many pizza shops there are EVERYWHERE>
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teamkiller said: you should probably stop paying for garbage shaped into pizza shape owned by an evil super rich right wing dickhead. you know, especially considering how many pizza shops there are EVERYWHERE>
That... and its not that hard to make your own pizza from scratch and you make it exactly how you want.... plus its fun to try all different kind of ingredient and sauces.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:...Him: I was just calling to let you know that your house is out of our district...
Where I'm at, if you're out of 'their district', they won't deliver. Period. You should report that fuck.
Now, about ...
I've never had Pappa Johns and never will. I've got a Pizza Hut 2 blocks away, and have never been in or ordered there, never will.
I've had Dominos many years ago, but never again.
If we're not making it our self at home,(best option) we only use this one good Mom & Pop style joint when we're in the mood for delivery. I've used this guy so much over the years that we're on a first name basis. I Tip 3 - $5...
I've got one local restaurant for awesome thin crust pie, and one local pup for fat ass veggie 'garbage' pie. Fuck those chain stores.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: vinsue]
#18820852 - 09/09/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im delivering right now, and $5 is an acceptable tip.
It's about my average, from the people that do tip.
If you live in a dump, and have enough money to order pizza once a month, $5 is a very generous tip.
If you order $70 worth of food everyday, are consistently slow to the door/pay, and ask for change for a hundred EVERY time, $5 is an asshole tip.
That's just me
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Papa Johns sucks anyways. I worked at several summer jobs at pizza places when I was younger. Papa Johns uses frozen dough, Pizza Hut uses frozen dough (but is still my favorite, I love pan crust), Bellacinos makes dough and bread fresh, from scratch, every morning, and slice all of their meats and veggies on site. I had a friend who worked at Lil Caesars, and says they actually make their dough fresh. Who knew the cheapo would have better ingredients than Papa Johns? So much for their slogan. I was legitimately surprised to learn this. Price, quality of ingredients, and service factored in, Papa Johns rings in last, in my books.
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i think the service industry has done a number on america.
in australia no one tips for shit, you have to earn a tip.
in america, if you don't give a tip its considered a dick move.
thats the way to do it man. they've engineered the situation so that your guilt tripped into giving them money. 
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Well, a lot of it revolves around the fact that they get away with paying servers and shit WAY BELOW minimum wage. Back when I was a server, they could legally pay you like $2 an hour because they factor in "expected tips" as part of your income, and that's how they get away with it.
Pizza delivery, I think they have to get paid min wage at least though.
But yeah it sickens me how everyone expects a tip in the US, for servers.. I tip good if the service was excellent and they deserve it. If the service sucked balls then so will the tip. For pizza delivery though, at least kick a few dollars, they have to drive and deliver it. I delivered pizza, I know how it is. But I would never bitch at someone for "only giving $5", that's like a normal good tip.
When I was in Japan there is no tipping period, and the service everywhere blew me away with how amazing it was. It's almost an insult to try and tip a server.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Shroomism]
#18821300 - 09/09/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i almost died after eating at papa jon's. fuck that place and anywhere that uses onions or onion powder!
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
5 dollars tip are you fucking insanse, thats more than the sum of all the tips I've given in my life.
Seriously go there and start a fire in their toilets or shit in the palm of your hand and throw it at the counter or w/e.
What a fucking crock of shit
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
5 dollars tip are you fucking insanse, thats more than the sum of all the tips I've given in my life.
Seriously go there and start a fire in their toilets or shit in the palm of your hand and throw it at the counter or w/e.
What a fucking crock of shit 
For someone so enlightened, pretty fucking asshole move to tip so little (if you're in the US).
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greencrush420 said: Papa Johns uses frozen dough
No they don't, they use fresh dough, they don't make it on site but it's not frozen.
Also I would be a little hesitant about ordering from there but not to hesitant, they generally don't really spit on food, at the Papa johns I'm familiar with someone did it once and my friend told on him and he got fired right then.
Also I'm almost certain that since they've delivered to you before they're not allowed to say no now, or they'll get in trouble, at least that's how it was around here, they delivered out of the area once and then a few days later the neighbor called for a delivery and they said they don't deliver there and then the customer said they seen them deliver up the road the other day and the worker called the manager and the manager said they had to do it because then the person could say they discriminated against them then the store would get in trouble with corporate.
Also I would call corporate and get them in trouble, the parties involved could be fired or at least written up.
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mellowparty said:
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
5 dollars tip are you fucking insanse, thats more than the sum of all the tips I've given in my life.
Seriously go there and start a fire in their toilets or shit in the palm of your hand and throw it at the counter or w/e.
What a fucking crock of shit 
For someone so enlightened, pretty fucking asshole move to tip so little (if you're in the US).
Why would I tip some jerk with money I don't have in the first place? I've worked in the food industry and its a fucking joke, some venues require you to empty your pockets before you start your shift so you can't stash tips (if you do get tips you need to hand them over to the manager or some other slime ball).
Either way people working in the catering industry have made poor life choices and I'm not going to encourage them by giving them more money.
Also whats with the enlightened shit? Just cause I've smoked +10grams of DMT doesn't make me enlightened, if anything it just makes me a druggie piece of scum.
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one time I saw a guy trying to deliver a 30 something slice pizza he went to a house that no one lived in at the time and he left the pizza on his car for some reason and drove off it fell on the ground upside down most of it still on the box so I went and had some it was really good full of toppings not greasy thinner crust still hot he never came back
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I've never heard of this happening before. A manager or employee calling a customer and complaining about a tip? The fuck?
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Let me get this straight. You gave a delivery a guy a 5 dollar tip for a 15 dollar pizza? And the manager called to bitch?
Have that asshole call me next time.
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I call bullshit on you or on the driver. $5 is a decent tip, I think its a lot more likely someone here is lying.
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passifloracaerulea said: i almost died after eating at papa jon's. fuck that place and anywhere that uses onions or onion powder!
Fuck Papa Johns for sure, but you'd best take back what you just said about onions and onion powder.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: TheWiz]
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TheWiz said:
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passifloracaerulea said: i almost died after eating at papa jon's. fuck that place and anywhere that uses onions or onion powder!
Fuck Papa Johns for sure, but you'd best take back what you just said about onions and onion powder.
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Soulidarity said: i think the service industry has done a number on america.
in australia no one tips for shit, you have to earn a tip.
in america, if you don't give a tip its considered a dick move.
thats the way to do it man. they've engineered the situation so that your guilt tripped into giving them money. 
whoever's brain child that was is a genius
in america, papa johns drivers get paid $4.75 per hour not counting tax deductions. also the tips are taxed as well
(the $2.50 delivery fee does not go to the drivers, that just goes to the company)
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Envix]
#18823624 - 09/10/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My local Mom & Pop shop delivers for free.
They do seem to have rather high turn over rate amongst drivers... . . .
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Envix]
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Envix said:
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Soulidarity said: i think the service industry has done a number on america.
in australia no one tips for shit, you have to earn a tip.
in america, if you don't give a tip its considered a dick move.
thats the way to do it man. they've engineered the situation so that your guilt tripped into giving them money. 
whoever's brain child that was is a genius
in america, papa johns drivers get paid $4.75 per hour not counting tax deductions. also the tips are taxed as well
(the $2.50 delivery fee does not go to the drivers, that just goes to the company)
They get paid $7.25 plus tips, here in West Virginia.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: vinsue]
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So glad I live in New York if for nothing else, and maybe, only for, the pizza. There is always a number of bomb ass local pizza establishments that make such better pizza than cookie cutter chain pizza franchises to choose from. Between that, and good bagels, as well as bacon egg and cheese sandwiches....they make it all worth living here. I don't think I've ever had poppa johns. Doubt I ever would unless they had some kind of sick deal or something.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Shroomism]
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OP, are you sure you gave $5?
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: DeadPhan]
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DeadPhan said: So glad I live in New York if for nothing else, and maybe, only for, the pizza. There is always a number of bomb ass local pizza establishments that make such better pizza than cookie cutter chain pizza franchises to choose from. Between that, and good bagels, as well as bacon egg and cheese sandwiches....they make it all worth living here. I don't think I've ever had poppa johns. Doubt I ever would unless they had some kind of sick deal or something.
Nor should you. NYC street pizza is the ideal that all chains strive to match. Except the idiots in Chicago who make this casserole that they call pizza. Morons.
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passifloracaerulea said: i almost died after eating at papa jon's. fuck that place and anywhere that uses onions or onion powder!
I may be wrong, but I don't think onion allergies are that common, bud.
Sorry you are allergic, but saying fuck anywhere that uses that spice is a bit harsh.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: shLong]
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yeah, well step into my shoes. I used to be able to eat anything until I ate a buttload of Monsanto potatoes in the mid 90's.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
You should give the pizza places number to these guys. Roy may just screw them all up.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: That's fucking bullshit. Call up the corporate headquarters and ream his ass out. Free pizza.
Manager can't just call and harass you like that. If it really was the manager. The delivery guys tip has nothing to do with him. First of all no one is under any obligation to give a tip in the first place. (although it is common courtesy) And $5 is more than an acceptable tip for a pizza delivery. (Source: used to deliver pizza - $5 is like a high end tip. Got a 20 on a few occasions but extremely rare). Most people tip like $1-2, if at all.
This......Ive worked in pizza forever and only chillax mom and pop pizza can pull that crap off corporate pizza will lick your balls to get your business back. What he did was not allowed, especially when you TIPPED him.
Gotta say though Pappa JOhns sucks balls. Take this as the Lords way of tell you to order decent pizza. Or if you are gonna order corporate pizza at least go with pizza hut or little Ceasers
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: 4runner]
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
You should give the pizza places number to these guys. Roy may just screw them all up.
I'm like 10 minutes in. Funny stuff lol
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: TheMule73]
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Never tip them a penny as long as you order from them, make it a point that the manager harassed you over a more then generous tip. If the manager calls again I would say "Tips are optional yet I was generous enough to give 5$,if you call and harass one more time, i'll bring this issue to the police
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: TheMule73]
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TheMule73 said: I'm like 10 minutes in. Funny stuff lol
Their channel has some funny stuff on it, although it's been getting a little weak, It's hit and miss latley.
He has a phone number you can call to make suggestions, I just can't remember where to find it. PLA forums or something would have it.
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Shroomism said: That's fucking bullshit. Call up the corporate headquarters and ream his ass out. Free pizza.
Manager can't just call and harass you like that. If it really was the manager. The delivery guys tip has nothing to do with him. First of all no one is under any obligation to give a tip in the first place. (although it is common courtesy) And $5 is more than an acceptable tip for a pizza delivery. (Source: used to deliver pizza - $5 is like a high end tip. Got a 20 on a few occasions but extremely rare). Most people tip like $1-2, if at all.
This......Ive worked in pizza forever and only chillax mom and pop pizza can pull that crap off corporate pizza will lick your balls to get your business back. What he did was not allowed, especially when you TIPPED him.
Gotta say though Pappa JOhns sucks balls. Take this as the Lords way of tell you to order decent pizza. Or if you are gonna order corporate pizza at least go with pizza hut or little Ceasers
Only an asshole would call up corporate to get someone fired for something that stupid... Really, some of the people on here need to grow a pair.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: fapjack]
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Shroomism said: That's fucking bullshit. Call up the corporate headquarters and ream his ass out. Free pizza.
Manager can't just call and harass you like that. If it really was the manager. The delivery guys tip has nothing to do with him. First of all no one is under any obligation to give a tip in the first place. (although it is common courtesy) And $5 is more than an acceptable tip for a pizza delivery. (Source: used to deliver pizza - $5 is like a high end tip. Got a 20 on a few occasions but extremely rare). Most people tip like $1-2, if at all.
This......Ive worked in pizza forever and only chillax mom and pop pizza can pull that crap off corporate pizza will lick your balls to get your business back. What he did was not allowed, especially when you TIPPED him.
Gotta say though Pappa JOhns sucks balls. Take this as the Lords way of tell you to order decent pizza. Or if you are gonna order corporate pizza at least go with pizza hut or little Ceasers
Only an asshole would call up corporate to get someone fired for something that stupid... Really, some of the people on here need to grow a pair.
You do have a point I suppose Kind of silly to take away a mans job in this economy over the right to buy shitty papa johns pizza. But still, that scrub needs to learn a lesson
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: 4runner]
#18825051 - 09/10/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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He somehow convinced target to sync up a phone of his with theirs so that when customers call he's the one who talks to them.
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Have all your friends order from them saying there's not enough pepperoni on the pizza. Or how they waste box material by having four corners instead of an octagonal shape.
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This doesn't even sound right? Manager calls you bitching about someone else tip like it's their child? I've know that a manager of a pizza place would never have the back of a delivery driver.
calling bullshit
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passifloracaerulea said: yeah, well step into my shoes. I used to be able to eat anything until I ate a buttload of Monsanto potatoes in the mid 90's.
That sucks, bro. Sorry to hear
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: EllisDSox]
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EllisDSox said: Obviously pee up his anus, as if it even needs to be said.
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passifloracaerulea said: yeah, well step into my shoes. I used to be able to eat anything until I ate a buttload of Monsanto potatoes in the mid 90's.

I thought there was no way too until I saw the research done with rats and the same potatoes.
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zappaisgod said: NYC street pizza is the ideal that all chains strive to match.
It's a style of it's own. Different yeast content making for a more dense, flatter base, different cooking method, different size, just to name a few traits. Dominoes preps their dough on cornmeal which marks their trademark sandy base. Far removed from any quality of NY.
If every popular chain were trying to match, it would already be done and NY pizza wouldn't be the feature that it is.
What you will will is that NY pizza (certainly true of cheese and tomato) is trying to match traditional Naples pizza.
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I have always liked Sbarro best, and they make great NY style pizza IMO. Unfortunately, there isn't one very close to me, so I'm stuck with Pizza Hut.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: fapjack]
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Shroomism said: That's fucking bullshit. Call up the corporate headquarters and ream his ass out. Free pizza.
Manager can't just call and harass you like that. If it really was the manager. The delivery guys tip has nothing to do with him. First of all no one is under any obligation to give a tip in the first place. (although it is common courtesy) And $5 is more than an acceptable tip for a pizza delivery. (Source: used to deliver pizza - $5 is like a high end tip. Got a 20 on a few occasions but extremely rare). Most people tip like $1-2, if at all.
This......Ive worked in pizza forever and only chillax mom and pop pizza can pull that crap off corporate pizza will lick your balls to get your business back. What he did was not allowed, especially when you TIPPED him.
Gotta say though Pappa JOhns sucks balls. Take this as the Lords way of tell you to order decent pizza. Or if you are gonna order corporate pizza at least go with pizza hut or little Ceasers
Only an asshole would call up corporate to get someone fired for something that stupid... Really, some of the people on here need to grow a pair.
Only an asshole calls up customers bitching about them not tipping enough. If that shit happened to me I wouldn't stop until he got fired.
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greencrush420 said: I have always liked Sbarro best, and they make great NY style pizza IMO. Unfortunately, there isn't one very close to me, so I'm stuck with Pizza Hut.
Oh those guys make some damn good pizza, I like their strombolli too
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: The phone call went along the lines of this
Him: I was just calling to let you know that your house is out of our district, and 5 dollars is hardly an acceptable tip
Me: sorry bro, that's all I had. Take it or leave it.
Him: well, we'll take that into consideration next time you place an order
Me: (in so many words) Fuck off
It sucks because I really enjoy their pizza
If he told you it was out of their district when you placed the order you probably should have tipped more. Well actually, the manager should have added it to the order price as a delivery fee. It is a huge pain in the ass to drive to a place that's way out of range, only to get a shit tip. That costs not only more gas, but time where you could probably be delivering 4-5 other orders closer to the shop-- which can mean a lot of money lost for the driver. Depending on how far from the store it was, $5 really might not have been worth it for the driver.
I say all this because I used to deliver. for PJ's, actually, as well as a couple other places. Usually if I was going way the fuck out of their normal delivery range (like a couple towns over) the tip would be closer to $10-$20.
Bottom line is: If you don't have the money to give the driver a decent tip, you should be picking up the pizza yourself. I'm just stating the point-- not saying this was your fault. Like I said, the manager should have made all of this very clear at the time you placed the order. If he didn't, this is on him. If he did, it's kind of on you.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: cops]
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cops said: i don't think the manager is allowed to do that... you should report him.
Agreed. I work at a restaurant and when servers get shitty tips...the managers didn't do shit. It's part of the industry. The manager is just a jackass. Probably has a rat tail and has a different skynyrd shirt for every day of the week.
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Seriously_trippin said: Never tip them a penny as long as you order from them, make it a point that the manager harassed you over a more then generous tip. If the manager calls again I would say "Tips are optional yet I was generous enough to give 5$,if you call and harass one more time, i'll bring this issue to the police
Sounds good on paper but OP would then have to have his pizza inspected by a bomb squad and center of disease control before partaking.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: vinsue]
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cops said: i don't think the manager is allowed to do that... you should report him.
Agreed. I work at a restaurant and when servers get shitty tips...the managers didn't do shit. It's part of the industry. The manager is just a jackass. Probably has a rat tail and has a different skynyrd shirt for every day of the week.
Incorrect. Restaurants that offer delivery are not required to deliver to any location. Quite the opposite. Delivery places normally have a very limited, clearly defined range of where they will and will not deliver. This is for a number of simple and very practical reasons-- mainly because it takes way more time and gas to go far from the store, and not only would the store need to hire more drivers, bringing up their labor costs, but the drivers would hate having to drive miles away from the store for douchebags who are both too lazy to pick up their own food, and too cheap to pay fairly for the service.
So typically when a customer calls from outside the delivery range, they are flat-out refused delivery. If it's a particularly slow night, a particularly large order, or a particularly good / important customer, the manager will sometimes make an exception. They do not have to do this. It is a favor and an extra service. It is not unusual in the slightest for the manager to require a delivery charge be paid for this additional service, even if such a charge is not part of their normal operation.
As I said-- the manager should have made this very clear before the order was agreed upon, and if he didn't then it is a bit of a dickhead move. Even if he didn't require a delivery charge, however, but did alert the customer that it's outside their normal delivery area, one (the manager) might expect that the customer would realize that this company, and more specifically the driver, is doing them a favor, and that people were going above and beyond for them, and that it would only be decent of them to do likewise, in regard to compensation. $5 would be a good tip in town, closer to the store. Like I said-- I've seen tips going from $10 up to $50 or greater for way-out-of-range deliveries, though $10-$20 is far more common.
I don't think it's necessarily 100% uncalled-for, for the manager to call and say "hey, the driver did you a favor, and that is not the standard rate for such a favor..." Otherwise the customer might call back again to try to get the same service, not realizing the driver felt somewhat cheated on the deal, last time.
I don't think it's super-unusual, either. If memory serves, IME usually when I got back from such a run, the manager would always ask me if the tip was okay, to be sure I was treated fairly. Though I suppose this could have just been to determine how to handle the customer in the future. Either way, I'm sure you get the point....
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I always yearned for the day that there would be a pizza delivery thread so I could share this story, so here goes.
Back when I was 16 I delivered pizza for a small pizza place (I think it was run by Albanian mobsters but whatever). I made a delivery to this one place -- big ass mansion crib with damn near an olympic size swimming pool in the back. They were having a HUGE fucking party out back; everybody was bombed out of their minds. Pretty sure they were stoned, too. I dropped off like 10 boxes of pizza and all these ripped out of their mind old dudes & chicks started telling me how awesome I was and how awesome pizza is and how life is just fucking grand as fuck.
They all started pulling out twenties and handing them to me. I was getting bombarded with money for delivering some damn pizzas. By the time they finally let my ass outta there I had pocketed over $300.
quick now somebody give me a cool story bro
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: shLong]
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Okay, so yesterday I ordered a pizza from papa johns. They delivered it, we payed 'em, and they left. Same old same old, y'know.
Well, about two hours later (9 at night) the manager calls complaining that I didn't tip his driver enough (I gave him 5 dollars)
My first thought was to drive down there and kick his ass, but I know there has to be a smarter way of going about this. Any thoughts?
I work at a pizza place and when I clicked on this I was expecting another bitchy customer who deson't understand how things go. The customer is always right is the biggest bullshit thing ever, but what you had to say is really fucked. Delivery divers are the biggest bitches ever as well, they get to drive around all day and bitch anything they have to bitch about is ridiculous. I bust my ass for shit pay and never get to leave the store on joy rides. Every driver that's ever worked for me has fucked around on long deliveries taking the long way and going places they shouldn't or something to that degree. Delivery drivers get paid minimum wage, but like 3.65 when they are on the road in my state (right to work state). So they live off of their tips, but if it wasn't for them using their gas and dealing with car maintenance I would tell you delivery drivers (at least in my store) don't do shit but drive around town and complain about it while they wash dishes.
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Seriously_trippin said: Never tip them a penny as long as you order from them, make it a point that the manager harassed you over a more then generous tip. If the manager calls again I would say "Tips are optional yet I was generous enough to give 5$,if you call and harass one more time, i'll bring this issue to the police
In case you skipped my posts in this thread, the delivery was optional. The manager / driver didn't have to do it. They could just refuse in the future.
Second, when you call a pizza place for delivery, and give them your phone number, it's with the expectation that they may call you. Once in a while, for some reason or another, people get calls post delivery. Missing driver, "hey did you get your food yet,"...etc,... all kinds of reasons. But beyond one simple reminder call-- "hey, we don't think that's quite fair payment for the service we gave," no manager in their right mind would call back and actually "harrass" a customer about it. If they didn't like their response, they'd just be put on a "do not deliver" list, or some crap.
Third point-- go ahead and piss off the guys who bring you your food by not tipping them, or acting like a jerk and see how that turns out. I mean, in the scenario above, it was the manager that called, not the driver. The driver may have had nothing to do with that, other than to honestly tell the manager what their tip was. So you would advocate punishing someone who may be innocent and had nothing to do with the so-called "harrassment"? The guy who actually sort of got the short end in the deal?
Anyway, if you do that enough, (at least the being a jerk part) you might be denied delivery in the future. If there's no delivery charge, you can be an asshole and choose not to tip. Smaller places might ban you for that, but they also more typically have delivery charges and order minimums. So the store may not care much. Chain places like Dominoes are far more likely to not give a shit if you don't tip. But the drivers will. And you'll get a reputation. And if I know you're a chronic no-tipper and an asshole, and I have four orders in my car, guess who gets his food last?
Some guys might not be so nice. There are far worse things one could do in the private of their own car to the food of a customer who was a total jerkoff. I've never done it. I wouldn't want it done to me, so I never was willing to cross that line-- even if there was a customer or two who I felt almost deserved it. Others might not have such a strong moral compass as I.
Well, I did do it to a co-worker once though. I'm not normally much of a vengeful person. I'm usually far more forgive-and-forget. That motherfucker deserved it so much, though, and he just fucked with me at the wrong time in my life. I won't get into the particulars. But it was some of the sweetest, most fucked up revenge I ever had to watch that man literally lick my urine off his fingers as he ate his wings.

Don't piss off the people who handle your food-- It's not nice, and it's generally not a good idea.
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zappaisgod said: NYC street pizza is the ideal that all chains strive to match.
It's a style of it's own. Different yeast content making for a more dense, flatter base, different cooking method, different size, just to name a few traits. Dominoes preps their dough on cornmeal which marks their trademark sandy base. Far removed from any quality of NY.
If every popular chain were trying to match, it would already be done and NY pizza wouldn't be the feature that it is.
Bullshit. That's like saying McDonalds could make steaks like Peter Lugar's if they wanted to.
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: fapjack]
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zappaisgod said: NYC street pizza is the ideal that all chains strive to match.
It's a style of it's own. Different yeast content making for a more dense, flatter base, different cooking method, different size, just to name a few traits. Dominoes preps their dough on cornmeal which marks their trademark sandy base. Far removed from any quality of NY.
If every popular chain were trying to match, it would already be done and NY pizza wouldn't be the feature that it is.
Bullshit. That's like saying McDonalds could make steaks like Peter Lugar's if they wanted to.
It's like saying that popular chains could easily make a NY style pizza.
...but they don't because that's not what they are known for and thus it's not what the populus expects.
If you think pizza making is difficult in any respect you've over complicated life.
Edited by Duncan Rowhl (09/11/13 09:01 PM)
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Seriously_trippin
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Re: Fuck Papa Johns! [Re: Niffla]
#18831093 - 09/12/13 03:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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Seriously_trippin said: Never tip them a penny as long as you order from them, make it a point that the manager harassed you over a more then generous tip. If the manager calls again I would say "Tips are optional yet I was generous enough to give 5$,if you call and harass one more time, i'll bring this issue to the police
Sounds good on paper but OP would then have to have his pizza inspected by a bomb squad and center of disease control before partaking.
Lmao, it did sound good in my mind Yeah I suppose your right, the old saying "don't fuck with the people that handle your food" is true
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