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Patlal
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Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from?
#18819334 - 09/09/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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For some reason, it always has been where I'm from. You can't ask someone their salary, net worth, how much they made on a business deal etc. I always found that to be exectionally stupid.
The only place acceptable to talk about it is the bank with a financial adviser.
I was raised in a business family. By the time I was 8, I knew how much my mom and dad were making from their business. By the time I was 10 I knew how much they had in bank. At 12 I knew about their retirement funds, by 15 I knew all their investments and finally, lets say 20, I knew about everything. Taxes, mutual funds how much they owed to the bank, how to buy property, how to negociate deals and exchange investment ideas.
Every parent on earth should teach their kids that shit. That way when they turn 18 they know how to make money. Most people never tell their kids how much they make by fear that the kid would talk about it in school and that another parent would learn about it. Absolute stupidity. These kids won't even know how a fucking credit card work. How are they suppose to know how to increase their wealth???
All they have is a bank advisor that doesn't know shit about business cause he's an employee and the only product he knows about are what the bank promotes... Mutual funds. Worse investment to give to people who are clueless given by someone who is equally clueless. Ask a bank adviser how a stock price is calculated. They won't know shit... Then they'll be apologetic when you lose half your retirement when the market crashes...
If everybody openly talked about money, everybody would learn tricks to make themselves richer and I'm pretty fucking sure people would be richer than they are now.
Did your parents talk to you about money when you were a kid?
Did you know how much they made a year?
Is it taboo to talk about money in your part of the world?
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18819360 - 09/09/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My parents grew up in a traditional mid-western environment. It was considered rude to inquire about someone's salary. I'd say this holds true for the vast majority of people I know. I'm not really sure how this started. I speculate that by asking someone how much they make, you're essentially asking them: "How valuable are you to society?".
Myself, I could give a shit, but that's probably because I have a respectable job/career.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: badchad]
#18819384 - 09/09/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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badchad said: My parents grew up in a traditional mid-western environment. It was considered rude to inquire about someone's salary. I'd say this holds true for the vast majority of people I know. I'm not really sure how this started. I speculate that by asking someone how much they make, you're essentially asking them: "How valuable are you to society?".
Myself, I could give a shit, but that's probably because I have a respectable job/career.
How much do you make per year?
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal] 5
#18819389 - 09/09/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My parents answer to that question was always "enough".
As a matter of fact, he once co-signed for a motorcycle I bought when I was 18 or so. When he filled out the application he wrote "enough" in the income line. The banker looked at him rather funny. Then the banker looked at my dad's credit report.
I got the loan.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18819412 - 09/09/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm honestly not sure how taboo it really is in my area, I mean, I do have plenty of friends that really don't mind asking people but they're also pretty much just kids and more than likely have no regard for being polite.
I do agree that parents should involve their kids more when it comes to money and how they handle it. It could really teach them how to handle their money better and just what to expect when they grow up and actually have money they have to manage. My parents did talk to me a bit about money, but not nearly as much as I'd have liked them to.
A lot of it was pretty basic "Save your money so your not broke"... Well, that simply will not leave an impact on your life and isn't going to teach you shit. The more your involved the more "real" it is. My parents would more or less bitch that schools should be teaching kids how to manage money. I do agree school should focus on money management more but the parents are the ones that really should be teaching them.
I know if I have kids, money is going to be something I'll be very focused on teaching them so they don't make the same mistakes I have.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#18819418 - 09/09/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: My parents answer to that question was always "enough".
As a matter of fact, he once co-signed for a motorcycle I bought when I was 18 or so. When he filled out the application he wrote "enough" in the income line. The banker looked at him rather funny. Then the banker looked at my dad's credit report.
I got the loan.
 I have to start paying student loans pretty quick here, and although I'm not looking forward to it I'm pretty excited to build my credit.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: volcomstoner]
#18819431 - 09/09/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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no one ever taught me how to do taxes, i went and got the forums last tax period, took one look at them and.......
now im saving up to hire someone to do them for me
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#18819434 - 09/09/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can tell now when I was a young kid we were pretty poor, but I guess my parents got a much better job and things improved. I've asked how much they make and never got any real answers, I don't care anymore though. I still have to work for my my shit though (unlike some people I know whose parents still pay for their insurance and phone bill and shit..).
I don't care if people know what I make, probably because I'm in school/pretty young so I shouldn't be making much anyways. Even so, I wouldn't care if people knew how much I made unless I made a very good amount. I ask my friends how much they make, hell even coworkers who I'm friends with I'll ask If I know them well I have no problem asking or telling how much we make and I don't think they mind because they tell/ask the same.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18819441 - 09/09/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: How much do you make per year?
Enough to be comfortable, lol. Truth be told, about 110k. In a high cost of living area.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: A Day InThe Life]
#18819619 - 09/09/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A Day InThe Life said: I can tell now when I was a young kid we were pretty poor, but I guess my parents got a much better job and things improved. I've asked how much they make and never got any real answers, I don't care anymore though. I still have to work for my my shit though (unlike some people I know whose parents still pay for their insurance and phone bill and shit..).
I don't care if people know what I make, probably because I'm in school/pretty young so I shouldn't be making much anyways. Even so, I wouldn't care if people knew how much I made unless I made a very good amount. I ask my friends how much they make, hell even coworkers who I'm friends with I'll ask If I know them well I have no problem asking or telling how much we make and I don't think they mind because they tell/ask the same.
Yeah it's definitely different with people your closer to, I don't have a problem asking. It's pretty rare that I do though because honestly I don't care that much and I usually try to stay out of people's personal business as much as I can.
My parents did kind of hide the amount of money they had from me, my mom would even hide money from my father. When I got a bit older my parents would tell me we were broke or money was tight. Mainly just to give me a reason that they aren't gonna be able to help me out much financially.
Today my mother and I were talking about her selling one of her cars because she's getting tight on money. And she told me how much money she makes a year for the first time.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18819634 - 09/09/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Every Canadian ive ever encountered has never had a problem blabbering about how much $ they have, how many homes they have yet how cheap they are.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18819728 - 09/09/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't really care how much money another person makes. Either they're awesome and worth knowing, or they're not. Knowing how much money someone else makes always turns into a penis measuring contest.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18819819 - 09/09/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: Every Canadian ive ever encountered has never had a problem blabbering about how much $ they have, how many homes they have yet how cheap they are.
That's my wife's parents to a T. At every family function they spend virtually the entire time bragging about their rental house in Florida, trying to get people to look at the website for it (again,) etc. I would say that most people of their generation would consider it fairly rude to ask about a person's salary though, including my parents.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal] 2
#18819824 - 09/09/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from?
Absolutely, that is no one's business and extremely rude.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: muistrue]
#18819830 - 09/09/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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muistrue said: Absolutely, that is no one's business and extremely rude.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18819870 - 09/09/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It depends on what you do. Work at a car dealership and everyone you work with will tell you what they make. That's probably true for any sales jobs actually. Outside of that, it seems rude to ask someone and I do not make a habit of telling people what I make, lest they feel like I should be the only one buying drinks.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: lazyfingers]
#18819891 - 09/09/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It just seems like something a suck up would ask.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: A Day InThe Life]
#18819917 - 09/09/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A Day InThe Life said: I can tell now when I was a young kid we were pretty poor, but I guess my parents got a much better job and things improved. I've asked how much they make and never got any real answers, I don't care anymore though. I still have to work for my my shit though (unlike some people I know whose parents still pay for their insurance and phone bill and shit..).
I don't care if people know what I make, probably because I'm in school/pretty young so I shouldn't be making much anyways. Even so, I wouldn't care if people knew how much I made unless I made a very good amount. I ask my friends how much they make, hell even coworkers who I'm friends with I'll ask If I know them well I have no problem asking or telling how much we make and I don't think they mind because they tell/ask the same.
I was pretty much in your same boat then my dad started making bookuuu bucks and I was the one doing the paper work and going to the bank at 16 plus picking up the envelopes with 10 to 50 k in them every 2 months. Cool job for a 16 year old just to have that much cash in your hand.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: r00tuuu123]
#18820283 - 09/09/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Better be a good damn friend to ask.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Shortknight]
#18820297 - 09/09/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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In DC, most people work for the gov't and their salary is public, so long as you know their grade/step
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18820334 - 09/09/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aside from asking friends how much they make I find it in pretty poor taste. I really dislike talking about what money I have or make with pretty much everyone as it's not really their business. It's not their business to know how I choose to spend in relation to how much I make. I have a couple friends who won't even talk about it and skirt the question if it comes up, although I don't think it really has since we all know they're not the type to talk about it. They were the first in my group of friends from college to get real jobs and make like 10s of thousands a year, the rest of us are still fuckups, so I guess we don't have an issue asking each other about our minimum wage jobs. Maybe if we made real money we wouldn't talk about it either 
E: I guess it's also something that you should be able to talk to your family about once you're mature enough to handle it and have it not just be used as shit slinging amongst your peers.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: jewunit]
#18820347 - 09/09/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think it's taboo, it's just general manners.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: jewunit]
#18820353 - 09/09/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Personally I could care less. I'll tell anyone who asks. I wouldn't ask a stranger but I've talked about it with friends out of curiosity because why not. It also lets me know if I'm being compensated fairly or if I should look for a new position
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#18820377 - 09/09/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think one reason it makes me uncomfortable is because I'm one of those people that never really had to pay for shit. I've had jobs and paid for my own shit, but for most of my life I had jobs to pay for luxuries and my dad to pay for necessities. Even into college. I know people will judge me that I get money from daddy if I need it so I prefer not to talk about it. Aside from my close friends people don't know and they don't need to know. Most of the people I am friends with are not like that, and I also don't live like I have that luxury (for the most part). I mean it's not like I'm loaded, but if I couldn't make rent he would cover, or when I totaled my car he bought me a new one (nothing crazy, like a $3,000 car, but if I was on my own I just wouldn't own a car anymore). Shit like that. I can see the merit in knowing what people make, but I can also see the downsides.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: jewunit]
#18820500 - 09/09/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm like the exact opposite. My parents didn't really help me with anything at all and I left the house and was living on my own at 16, I had to make my own way and do everything by myself. Even when I was homeless, starving and really needed help my parents wouldn't/couldn't. School of hard knocks or whatever you want to call it. Coming out the other side of it, and being successful in a career and life is the best "in your face" ever. Shroomery was more of a family to me than my blood family ever was. And I mean that 110%.
That said I don't feel it's anyone's business to know my salary. I'd tell my best friend if he asked, but he doesn't. My friends generally don't care about that. Unless I was like comparing and contrasting with someone who did similar work as me.. like as mentioned to see if I'm getting ripped off or not. But I already know I kind of am, so it gives me fuel to do better because I know I'm worth it.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Patlal]
#18820592 - 09/09/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's no one's business. That's the general sentiment around this part of western Canada
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Masked]
#18820744 - 09/09/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It seems every job I've had frowned officially upon discussing salaries with coworkers. It was also one of the first rules broken.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: koods]
#18820769 - 09/09/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's worse then asking someone what they make?
True fact: I make $100,000 a year and only work a total of 4 months collectively. NAH NAH NA BOO BOO!
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Masked]
#18820785 - 09/09/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Masked said: True fact: I make $100,000 a year and only work a total of 4 months collectively. NAH NAH NA BOO BOO!
Let me guess, you work May-August growing light dep greenhouse weed?
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: muistrue]
#18820859 - 09/09/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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muistrue said:
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Masked said: True fact: I make $100,000 a year and only work a total of 4 months collectively. NAH NAH NA BOO BOO!
Let me guess, you work May-August growing light dep greenhouse weed?
lol no. My work schedule is 6 months out of a 12 month year right off the bat because of the nature of my 12 hours shifts and shift work.
I work:
Monday, Tuesday - Days Wednesday, Thursday - OFF Fri, Sat, Sun - Nights Monday, Tuesday - OFF Wednesday, Thursday - Days Fri, Sat, Sun - OFF Monday, Tuesday - Nights Wednesday, Thursday - OFF Fri, Sat, Sun - Days Monday, Tuesday - OFF Wednesday, Thursday - Nights Fri, Sat, Sun - OFF
repeat...
All shifts are 5-5, whether nights or days.
So 6 months right off the bat. Then, as you can see from my schedule, everytime I put in 2 days off...I get a full week paid. And this job has TONS of paid time off. Floaters, banked over time, holidays, supplemental floaters, banked shiff diff, stat in lieu's, etc.
After putting in all holidays, at my discretion, I end up working only about 4 months out of the year. In 5 years, it'll be more like 3 months.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: Masked]
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it's definitely gauche to discuss how much you or someone else makes. people who haven't been raised with much class tend to harp on it. with school it's a little less that way because you may be talking to someone about your future plans, but generally income isn't something that's part of public life.
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: millzy]
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the question was "is it taboo to ask how much someone makes"
Which is why i said, I think it is. But then I asked, what's worse?
And in my opinion, bragging about it was much worse. I was trying to be an example of that, hence the 
I think talking/bragging about how much you make is WAY more tacky then asking someone how much they make
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Re: Is it taboo to ask how much someone makes per year where you come from? [Re: badchad]
#18821380 - 09/09/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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badchad said: Myself, I could give a shit, but that's probably because I have a respectable job/career.
Posting on a druggie forum is not a career.
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