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Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his wife at his gun
#18819255 - 09/09/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Still think he should be on the street, waiting for his next target?
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(CNN) -- George Zimmerman was detained after his estranged wife told 911 that he had threatened her and her father with a weapon, Lake Mary, Florida, police told reporters Monday.
Zimmerman was being cooperative, Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson said.
Shellie Zimmerman, who filed for divorce last week, called 911 just after 2 p.m. ET, Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell said. She told police that George Zimmerman was inside the house with a gun and was threatening her family, the chief said.
Bracknell added that Shellie Zimmerman claimed her husband "battered her father," according to the call report. It was unclear if he received medical treatment from first responders from the fire department.
George Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, told CNN, "There was heightened emotion, and a disagreement took place."
O'Mara said his client wasn't taken to police headquarters but was being questioned near the house, which is owned by his father-in-law, David Bryant Dean.
Bracknell said that as of 4 p.m., Shellie Zimmerman had yet to give a sworn statement to police, but she had spoken with her attorney.
The incident comes two months after Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, was found not guilty of murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.
Hudson said earlier that police are following procedure by placing Zimmerman in investigative detention.
"Anytime we have anybody suspected of doing anything, we place them in investigative detention until a complete investigation has been done," Hudson said.
George's brother, Robert, tweeted after his brother's detention that the public shouldn't "jump to conclusions."
Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce last week in Seminole County, her attorney told CNN at the time.
That filing came after she pleaded guilty to perjury on August 28 for lying about the state of the couple's finances during a bond hearing in April 2012. She had claimed she and her husband were broke, when in reality they had collected about $135,000 in donations.
Since his acquittal on July 13, George Zimmerman has been in the headlines several times. In late July, he reportedly helped a family escape from an overturned SUV. A report from the Seminole County Sheriff's Office confirmed his involvement.
More recently, Zimmerman has been pulled over in traffic twice. The first time, he was given a verbal warning for a traffic violation in Texas and reportedly told officers he had a firearm in his glove compartment. The second time was in Florida last week, when he was issued a $256 ticket for speeding.
Lake Mary is a suburb of Orlando near Sanford. http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/index.html
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe] 1
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Synthe said: Still think he should be on the street, waiting for his next target?
Yes, I do.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
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Sounds like she is trying to get him in Jail for life and steal all the money for herself. 
She lied about having the 135k? Seems that way to me.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Everlong]
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Synthe said: Still think he should be on the street, waiting for his next target?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
#18819276 - 09/09/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: Still think he should be on the street, waiting for his next target?
Pretending for a moment that your description is what actually happened ( )
Yes.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
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Zimmerman seems kinda stuck up and cocky to me.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
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VivaLaMushie said: Zimmerman seems kinda stuck up and cocky to me.
I like how it mentioned him rescuing people from a over turned SUV
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Magicman69]
#18819359 - 09/09/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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His wife's a documented liar and it sounds like a messy divorce with a cunty bitch.
And that's about as much of a shit as I can muster for this guy and the media's obsession with him.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe] 2
#18819364 - 09/09/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nowhere does it say that he "waved his gun."
You've zero credibility on the topic since you've already proven that you're willing to play fast and loose with the truth.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
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Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
#18819368 - 09/09/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
No, the media did a good job at that the past two years.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Niffla]
#18819372 - 09/09/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No shit. His wife seriously just sounds like a bitch trying to fuck him over and get some cash out of it. Of course it's going to look really bad claiming he "threatened" her with a gun after all the shit that went on. They give every detail of the guys life, I mean seriously who gives a fuck about a speeding ticket he got?
This is just one huge
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
#18819374 - 09/09/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
You should entertain the notion of "innocent until PROVEN guilty" for once...He hasn't been proven guilty of jack shit yet.
His wife, on the other hand, has been proven guilty of perjury.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
You should entertain the notion of "innocent until PROVEN guilty" for once...He hasn't been proven guilty of jack shit yet.
His wife, on the other hand, has been proven guilty of perjury.
Finally, someone who understands how the justice system works
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#18819405 - 09/09/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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this will all blow over when he makes his next superman move
"this just in george zimmerman just saved a wheelchair bound vet from a collapsing building"
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#18819410 - 09/09/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
You should entertain the notion of "innocent until PROVEN guilty" for once...He hasn't been proven guilty of jack shit yet.
His wife, on the other hand, has been proven guilty of perjury.
Finally, someone who understands how the justice system works
For the sake of his clients, that's a good thing.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
No, the media did a good job at that the past two years.
Hah, I can't really argue with that
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
You should entertain the notion of "innocent until PROVEN guilty" for once...He hasn't been proven guilty of jack shit yet.
His wife, on the other hand, has been proven guilty of perjury.
I do agree with "innocent until proven guilty", but c'mon, would you give Casey Anthony or any other accused murderer the same courtesy, or would you only give it to Zimmerman because the weapon of choice in the altercation was legally owned, the accused claimed to pull the trigger in self defense, and because it altogether carries over with your own political views?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
#18819467 - 09/09/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
I entertained the possibility, but then I looked at the evidence in the case and decided there wasn't nearly enough evidence to convict him. The trial proved this. I'm glad he was acquitted.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
#18819486 - 09/09/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do agree with "innocent until proven guilty", but c'mon, would you give Casey Anthony or any other accused murderer the same courtesy, or would you only give it to Zimmerman because the weapon of choice in the altercation was legally owned, the accused claimed to pull the trigger in self defense, and because it altogether carries over with your own political views?
Casey Anthony wasn't proven guilty of murder, either...so yeah, in my book, that makes her innocent. Same goes for OJ.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
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Zimmerman is guilty of gaining a ton of weight.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
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 He should sue because the mental distress from all this media attention has pushed him into an eating disorder.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: volcomstoner]
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It has made him addicted to food! SOMEONE should be blamed for his trauma!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18819571 - 09/09/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This affliction has given him the disease of addiction! He can no longer be held accountable for his actions because he is sick and needs help!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: volcomstoner]
#18819581 - 09/09/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All that heartburn is causing him not to think clearly!
Poor dude.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
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 That goddamn indigestion will make a man go crazy!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: volcomstoner]
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OJ must be pretty butt hurt having being found criminally not responsible for the crime, but civilly responsible and having to pay out millions of dollars
thats a bit of a kick in the balls right there
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Soulidarity]
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Yeah, he got the shaft on that one. On the bright side, he did just get paroled.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
You should entertain the notion of "innocent until PROVEN guilty" for once...He hasn't been proven guilty of jack shit yet.
His wife, on the other hand, has been proven guilty of perjury.
Finally, someone who understands how the justice system works
Actually, he admitted to killing Trayvon Martin, and claimed it was in self defense. Once you admit to killing someone and claim self-defense, you are guilty until proven innocent. You have admitted to committing a crime, but claimed that it was the only reasonable course of action in the situation. You then have to prove that it really was self defense, and that your life was in danger, since only the use of "equivalent force" is considered self-defense. There is no proof that Trayvon Martin was trying to kill him, or even assaulted him at all that night. He failed to prove that he was defending himself against an attacker who was using deadly force, therefore, he should be in jail. If your theory were correct, then all anyone who committed murder would have to do is claim self-defense. Then, there would be no proof they weren't defending themselves, because the other person would already be dead.
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greencrush420 said: Once you admit to killing someone and claim self-defense, you are guilty until proven innocent. You have admitted to committing a crime, but claimed that it was the only reasonable course of action in the situation. You then have to prove that it really was self defense, and that your life was in danger, since only the use of "equivalent force" is considered self-defense.
You couldn't be more incorrect. Killing someone isn't a crime. Murder is a crime. Zimmerman never admitted to murder. He admitted to killing someone.
In addition, claiming self-defense doesn't suddenly mean you're guilty until proven innocent. In SOME states, the defendant has the burden of proving self-defense, but the state ALWAYS has the burden of proving the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. In FL, where Zimmerman lives, the state also has the burden of proving that it was NOT self-defense.
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There is no proof that Trayvon Martin was trying to kill him, or even assaulted him at all that night. He failed to prove that he was defending himself against an attacker who was using deadly force, therefore, he should be in jail.
You must have watched an entirely different trial than I did. The state proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Martin brutally assaulted Zimmerman that night while Zimmerman screamed for help.
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If your theory were correct, then all anyone who committed murder would have to do is claim self-defense. Then, there would be no proof they weren't defending themselves, because the other person would already be dead.
My "theory" is the same "theory" that every lawyer learns in the first year of law school. I'm not exactly blazing a new trail here, kid.
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Enlil said: Yeah, he got the shaft on that one. On the bright side, he did just get paroled.
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Simpson still faces time for four weapons related sentences and two counts of assault with a deadly weapon. Simpson, who is serving his time at Lovelock Correctional Center 90 miles from Reno, faces at least four more years in prison on those sentences.
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He's got a few more charges that he's got to get paroled for, but he's that much closer to being a free man.
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hidenseek1 said: this will all blow over when he makes his next superman move
"this just in george zimmerman just saved a wheelchair bound vet from a collapsing building"
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said: You couldn't be more incorrect. Killing someone isn't a crime. Murder is a crime. Zimmerman never admitted to murder. He admitted to killing someone.
Intentionally killing someone is murder; the only thing in question is the degree to which pre-meditation occurred. Are you really going to attempt to argue that point? He committed murder, and the burden of proof was on him to prove that his life was in danger and that he retaliated with equivalent force. Even if Tryvon assaulted him, it is still murder if his life was not in danger. I'll say it again, in case you missed it, equivalent force is the key term here. He never proved that Travyvon was trying to kill him. He also never proved that it was Travon who initiated physical violence. There is no proof that Zimmermen didn't attack Trayvon first, and Trayvon wasn't the one trying to defend himself. The only thing anyone has to go on is Zimmermans word. There were no witnesses.
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"equivalent force" isn't a legal term, kid. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it's obvious.
Intentionally killing someone isn't necessarily murder either, but I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you because you've already demonstrated your firm belief in your own omniscience and your unwillingness to learn.
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Enlil said: "equivalent force" isn't a legal term, kid. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it's obvious.
Intentionally killing someone isn't necessarily murder either, but I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you because you've already demonstrated your firm belief in your own omniscience and your unwillingness to learn.
Whatever "kid". You're the one behaving in a puerile, and close minded manner. You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws, yet you continue to state that I am incorrect without first checking any facts. The fact that you feel the need to use Ad Hominem to personally attack me, by calling me a "kid", proves that you lack ground to stand on in your argument. Otherwise, you would back up your statements with fact, instead of using your surreptitious debate tactics to attempt to discredit my intellect. Nice try though.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420] 1
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
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Whatever "kid". You're the one behaving in a puerile, and close minded manner. You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws, yet you continue to state that I am incorrect without first checking any facts. The fact that you feel the need to use Ad Hominem to personally attack me, by calling me a "kid", proves that you lack ground to stand on in your argument. Otherwise, you would back up your statements with fact, instead of using your surreptitious debate tactics to attempt to discredit my intellect. Nice try though.

Your ego is bruised that badly, huh? No response at all?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
#18822819 - 09/10/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My qualifications vis a vis the law are not only a matter of opinion, but a matter of public record. The licenses and degree on my wall contain zero ambiguity about it. That's why it's funny to me when you talk this nonsense.
I am more than willing to help YOU understand the ins and outs of self-defense if you so desire, but I'm not here to prove anything to you.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
#18822821 - 09/10/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whatever "kid". You're the one behaving in a puerile, and close minded manner. You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws, yet you continue to state that I am incorrect without first checking any facts. The fact that you feel the need to use Ad Hominem to personally attack me, by calling me a "kid", proves that you lack ground to stand on in your argument. Otherwise, you would back up your statements with fact, instead of using your surreptitious debate tactics to attempt to discredit my intellect. Nice try though.

Your ego is bruised that badly, huh? No response at all? 
His response was perfect considering you're trying (and failing... badly) to lecture a lawyer on the law.
Quit while you're ahead not appearing completely moronish.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
#18822822 - 09/10/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You couldn't be more incorrect. Killing someone isn't a crime. Murder is a crime. Zimmerman never admitted to murder. He admitted to killing someone.
Intentionally killing someone is murder; the only thing in question is the degree to which pre-meditation occurred. Are you really going to attempt to argue that point? He committed murder, and the burden of proof was on him to prove that his life was in danger and that he retaliated with equivalent force. Even if Tryvon assaulted him, it is still murder if his life was not in danger. I'll say it again, in case you missed it, equivalent force is the key term here. He never proved that Travyvon was trying to kill him. He also never proved that it was Travon who initiated physical violence. There is no proof that Zimmermen didn't attack Trayvon first, and Trayvon wasn't the one trying to defend himself. The only thing anyone has to go on is Zimmermans word. There were no witnesses.
I assume you think that the prosecution sucked and you could have done better.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: qman]
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If I were the prosecutor I would have showed my tits and then I would've won the case!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
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Enlil said: "equivalent force" isn't a legal term, kid. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it's obvious.
Intentionally killing someone isn't necessarily murder either, but I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you because you've already demonstrated your firm belief in your own omniscience and your unwillingness to learn.
Whatever "kid". You're the one behaving in a puerile, and close minded manner. You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws, yet you continue to state that I am incorrect without first checking any facts. The fact that you feel the need to use Ad Hominem to personally attack me, by calling me a "kid", proves that you lack ground to stand on in your argument. Otherwise, you would back up your statements with fact, instead of using your surreptitious debate tactics to attempt to discredit my intellect. Nice try though. 
Its kind of weird when you call an old man a kid. Its also kinda weird that you claim you know about the law when you couldn't be any more wrong from what the law states (not to mention it varies heavily state by state). I think you're the only one here who thinks your intellect should be considered credible in this regard.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
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VivaLaMushie said: If I were the prosecutor I would have showed my tits and then I would've won the case!
Show us your tits, and then everyone will be happy!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
#18822890 - 09/10/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: My qualifications vis a vis the law are not only a matter of opinion, but a matter of public record. The licenses and degree on my wall contain zero ambiguity about it. That's why it's funny to me when you talk this nonsense.
I am more than willing to help YOU understand the ins and outs of self-defense if you so desire, but I'm not here to prove anything to you.
Ah, I didn't realize you were a lawyer, especially based on you underhanded debate tactics, but I suppose that is the norm in your profession. I'll bow out now, before I make a further fool of myself.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Uzziel]
#18822914 - 09/10/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: "equivalent force" isn't a legal term, kid. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it's obvious.
Intentionally killing someone isn't necessarily murder either, but I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you because you've already demonstrated your firm belief in your own omniscience and your unwillingness to learn.
Whatever "kid". You're the one behaving in a puerile, and close minded manner. You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws, yet you continue to state that I am incorrect without first checking any facts. The fact that you feel the need to use Ad Hominem to personally attack me, by calling me a "kid", proves that you lack ground to stand on in your argument. Otherwise, you would back up your statements with fact, instead of using your surreptitious debate tactics to attempt to discredit my intellect. Nice try though. 
Its kind of weird when you call an old man a kid. Its also kinda weird that you claim you know about the law when you couldn't be any more wrong from what the law states (not to mention it varies heavily state by state). I think you're the only one here who thinks your intellect should be considered credible in this regard.

I called him a "kid" sarcastically in retaliation to his own Ad Hominem. Of course, this went way over your head. I would expect nothing more from you. You're right, it does vary state to state, and my state is not a stand your ground state.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
#18822918 - 09/10/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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greencrush420 said: I'll bow out now, before I make a further fool of myself.
Is that even possible?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#18822923 - 09/10/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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greencrush420 said: I'll bow out now, before I make a further fool of myself.
Is that even possible?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
#18822959 - 09/10/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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greencrush420 said: it does vary state to state, and my state is not a stand your ground state.
Even in a "duty to retreat" state, the burden of proof is on the state to prove the elements of murder. "Stand your ground" laws don't change anything except the duty to retreat, and as has been noted ad nauseum on this site, the "Stand your ground" was irrelevant in the Zimmerman case.
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