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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Synthe]
#18819525 - 09/09/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: joe666] 1
#18819553 - 09/09/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Zimmerman is guilty of gaining a ton of weight.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18819566 - 09/09/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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 He should sue because the mental distress from all this media attention has pushed him into an eating disorder.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: volcomstoner]
#18819568 - 09/09/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It has made him addicted to food! SOMEONE should be blamed for his trauma!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18819571 - 09/09/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This affliction has given him the disease of addiction! He can no longer be held accountable for his actions because he is sick and needs help!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: volcomstoner]
#18819581 - 09/09/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All that heartburn is causing him not to think clearly!
Poor dude.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18819588 - 09/09/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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 That goddamn indigestion will make a man go crazy!
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: volcomstoner]
#18819838 - 09/09/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OJ must be pretty butt hurt having being found criminally not responsible for the crime, but civilly responsible and having to pay out millions of dollars
thats a bit of a kick in the balls right there
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Soulidarity]
#18819846 - 09/09/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, he got the shaft on that one. On the bright side, he did just get paroled.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#18821227 - 09/09/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
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Enlil said:
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Synthe said: Eh, you guys are right, I didn't even read the whole thing. Still though, anybody want to entertain the possibility that he's guilty for once?
You should entertain the notion of "innocent until PROVEN guilty" for once...He hasn't been proven guilty of jack shit yet.
His wife, on the other hand, has been proven guilty of perjury.
Finally, someone who understands how the justice system works
Actually, he admitted to killing Trayvon Martin, and claimed it was in self defense. Once you admit to killing someone and claim self-defense, you are guilty until proven innocent. You have admitted to committing a crime, but claimed that it was the only reasonable course of action in the situation. You then have to prove that it really was self defense, and that your life was in danger, since only the use of "equivalent force" is considered self-defense. There is no proof that Trayvon Martin was trying to kill him, or even assaulted him at all that night. He failed to prove that he was defending himself against an attacker who was using deadly force, therefore, he should be in jail. If your theory were correct, then all anyone who committed murder would have to do is claim self-defense. Then, there would be no proof they weren't defending themselves, because the other person would already be dead.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420] 2
#18822049 - 09/10/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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greencrush420 said: Once you admit to killing someone and claim self-defense, you are guilty until proven innocent. You have admitted to committing a crime, but claimed that it was the only reasonable course of action in the situation. You then have to prove that it really was self defense, and that your life was in danger, since only the use of "equivalent force" is considered self-defense.
You couldn't be more incorrect. Killing someone isn't a crime. Murder is a crime. Zimmerman never admitted to murder. He admitted to killing someone.
In addition, claiming self-defense doesn't suddenly mean you're guilty until proven innocent. In SOME states, the defendant has the burden of proving self-defense, but the state ALWAYS has the burden of proving the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. In FL, where Zimmerman lives, the state also has the burden of proving that it was NOT self-defense.
You should really avoid giving lectures on how the law works until you've educated yourself on it a bit more.Quote:
There is no proof that Trayvon Martin was trying to kill him, or even assaulted him at all that night. He failed to prove that he was defending himself against an attacker who was using deadly force, therefore, he should be in jail.
You must have watched an entirely different trial than I did. The state proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Martin brutally assaulted Zimmerman that night while Zimmerman screamed for help.
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If your theory were correct, then all anyone who committed murder would have to do is claim self-defense. Then, there would be no proof they weren't defending themselves, because the other person would already be dead.
My "theory" is the same "theory" that every lawyer learns in the first year of law school. I'm not exactly blazing a new trail here, kid.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
#18822062 - 09/10/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Yeah, he got the shaft on that one. On the bright side, he did just get paroled.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/31/oj-simpson-parole/2603497/
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O.J. Simpson won parole Wednesday on some of the charges that have kept him in a Nevada prison for almost five years, but still faces at least four more years behind bars...
Simpson still faces time for four weapons related sentences and two counts of assault with a deadly weapon. Simpson, who is serving his time at Lovelock Correctional Center 90 miles from Reno, faces at least four more years in prison on those sentences.
So granted parole but not paroled... . . .
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: vinsue]
#18822066 - 09/10/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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He's got a few more charges that he's got to get paroled for, but he's that much closer to being a free man.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: hidenseek1]
#18822362 - 09/10/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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hidenseek1 said: this will all blow over when he makes his next superman move
"this just in george zimmerman just saved a wheelchair bound vet from a collapsing building"
 "Wait, what? Wheelchair bound vet in a collapsing building? I'll be there in five."
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
#18822602 - 09/10/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You couldn't be more incorrect. Killing someone isn't a crime. Murder is a crime. Zimmerman never admitted to murder. He admitted to killing someone.
Intentionally killing someone is murder; the only thing in question is the degree to which pre-meditation occurred. Are you really going to attempt to argue that point? He committed murder, and the burden of proof was on him to prove that his life was in danger and that he retaliated with equivalent force. Even if Tryvon assaulted him, it is still murder if his life was not in danger. I'll say it again, in case you missed it, equivalent force is the key term here. He never proved that Travyvon was trying to kill him. He also never proved that it was Travon who initiated physical violence. There is no proof that Zimmermen didn't attack Trayvon first, and Trayvon wasn't the one trying to defend himself. The only thing anyone has to go on is Zimmermans word. There were no witnesses.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
#18822612 - 09/10/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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"equivalent force" isn't a legal term, kid. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it's obvious.
Intentionally killing someone isn't necessarily murder either, but I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you because you've already demonstrated your firm belief in your own omniscience and your unwillingness to learn.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
#18822701 - 09/10/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: "equivalent force" isn't a legal term, kid. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it's obvious.
Intentionally killing someone isn't necessarily murder either, but I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you because you've already demonstrated your firm belief in your own omniscience and your unwillingness to learn.
Whatever "kid". You're the one behaving in a puerile, and close minded manner. You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws, yet you continue to state that I am incorrect without first checking any facts. The fact that you feel the need to use Ad Hominem to personally attack me, by calling me a "kid", proves that you lack ground to stand on in your argument. Otherwise, you would back up your statements with fact, instead of using your surreptitious debate tactics to attempt to discredit my intellect. Nice try though.
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420] 1
#18822739 - 09/10/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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greencrush420 said: You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: Enlil]
#18822787 - 09/10/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whatever "kid". You're the one behaving in a puerile, and close minded manner. You have a paucity of knowledge regarding self-defense laws, yet you continue to state that I am incorrect without first checking any facts. The fact that you feel the need to use Ad Hominem to personally attack me, by calling me a "kid", proves that you lack ground to stand on in your argument. Otherwise, you would back up your statements with fact, instead of using your surreptitious debate tactics to attempt to discredit my intellect. Nice try though.

Your ego is bruised that badly, huh? No response at all?
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Re: Saint George (Zimmerman) just waved his gun at his wife [Re: greencrush420]
#18822819 - 09/10/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My qualifications vis a vis the law are not only a matter of opinion, but a matter of public record. The licenses and degree on my wall contain zero ambiguity about it. That's why it's funny to me when you talk this nonsense.
I am more than willing to help YOU understand the ins and outs of self-defense if you so desire, but I'm not here to prove anything to you.
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