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lsms
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ID request,
#18818638 - 09/09/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Species #1 Amanita regalis?
Habitat: close to a pine tree
Gills: close white with off-white tinge on older sample
Stem: white when picked turned more brown
Cap: brown with darker spot in center, veil (is that the proper term for the thing covering the gills when young?)
Bruising: brown if any
General location: northeast us

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Species #2 Not really sure on these guys.
Habitat: growing around pine and birch trees
Gills: brownish grey
Stem: whiteish yellow remnants of veil?
Cap: whiteish yellow raised center
Bruising: none really noticed

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Re: ID request, [Re: lsms]
#18818708 - 09/09/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not sure how to make the pictures smaller but you can scroll across and see the olva (bottom thing right?) on each sample.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: ID request, [Re: lsms]
#18818861 - 09/09/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Amanita regalis is a European species, what continent are you on? The last ones look kinda like Amanita phalloides which is absolutely deadly if consumed.
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Tangich


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maynardjameskeenan said: The last ones look kinda like Amanita phalloides which is absolutely deadly if consumed.
I see 4 pictures in the first post, and last two are of Agaricus. Is there something not showing for me??
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Definitely a mixed collection. Maybe even a couple genus. That green tinge on your Amanita says phalloides to me. I have seen phalooides and gemmata growing side by side, be very careful. One of those mushrooms looks like it could be Marasmius oreades.
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Re: ID request, [Re: Tangich]
#18818902 - 09/09/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I see 4 pictures in total, 2 for each ID request, both look like Amanitas to me.  Are you sure those are Agaricus? I've never seen ones with white gills, at least they look white on my screen.
Op can you make a spore print of your mushrooms?
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'Merica. in mass. So does the first one sort of, but its such a deeper brown than I see on the Phalloides. I can't find anything that matches up with it really besides regalis which does not seem too likely at all. They are too large to be Marasmius oreades I think. Would better pictures of the first mushroom help? Spore prints are being done, seems white at this point can't be sure though. the 2 pictures 2 species is correct aswell (I think)
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I'm not completely sure, but almost, the gills on the second one look gray on my screen, like an older A. xanthodermus for example gets. The darker mushroom in the first two pictures looks more like a Limacella to me, I don't know what the small white one is. There is no A. phalloides or M. oreades in any of the pictures.
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Re: ID request, [Re: Tangich]
#18818924 - 09/09/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They seemed like it to me, I originally thought white with darker spores when I found them but when I got back home they seemed gray.
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Re: ID request, [Re: Tangich]
#18818938 - 09/09/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tangich said: I don't know what the small white one is.
It is the same as the other just a very young one, its got the same brown color on the cap and was right next to it, my photos aren't too clear with that little guy I'll take some better ones
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Re: ID request, [Re: lsms]
#18818945 - 09/09/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I were you OP I would throw away everything that you've found, somethings are best not messed with. Are you looking for edibles or actives? I could try to assist you but for the love of fuck get rid of those mushrooms (properly, like in the garbage where no animals or kids can get to them).
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Tangich


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Or alternately, take some clear, detailed pictures in natural light, and spore print them, especially #2! And make a cross section of the stipe for that one. Those are some very interesting species. I don't know what's with people imagining Amanita phalloides everywhere recently...
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Re: ID request, [Re: Tangich]
#18818971 - 09/09/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Will post more pictures of #2 they are an odd looking one. Help is always appreciated!
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Re: ID request, [Re: Tangich]
#18818987 - 09/09/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tangich said: I don't know what's with people imagining Amanita phalloides everywhere recently...
In my defense this is only the third time I've mentioned Amanita phalloides on this site in the 3 years, it's not like I personally tell everyone that they have found them, if other people do that's on them, I'm not responsible for their actions.
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Tangich


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Sorry, didn't mean to single you out or anything (you're not even the only one in this thread who suggested phalloides), it's just that in the last couple of days several people were screaming Amanita phalloides when the mushrooms in the ID request had only a slight greenish tinge in the pictures...
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lsms
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Re: ID request, [Re: lsms]
#18819054 - 09/09/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://i42.tinypic.com/28c3pkk.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/1zpiccy.jpg second picture is clearly gray gilled other seems like a different species
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Re: ID request, [Re: lsms]
#18819062 - 09/09/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Id call them more of a yellow than green honestly, I am however colorblind so you can pretty much disregard me
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Re: ID request, [Re: Tangich]
#18819091 - 09/09/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will admit I was a little quick to the gun, but without all the specimen laid out seperately with clear pics its hard to even distinguishe genus sometimes. I never mind being wrong, most of the time I will be the first to admit it. I only pose questions to help chisle my speculation down. All in all I apologize for anything missleading and enjoy the lessons I learn here.
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Re: ID request, [Re: dodeski]
#18819094 - 09/09/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I feel like a douche now.  Sorry guys!
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lsms
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Re: ID request, [Re: dodeski]
#18819106 - 09/09/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dodeski said: I will admit I was a little quick to the gun, but without all the specimen laid out seperately with clear pics its hard to even distinguishe genus sometimes. I never mind being wrong, most of the time I will be the first to admit it. I only pose questions to help chisle my speculation down. All in all I apologize for anything missleading and enjoy the lessons I learn here.
I think your right about there being 2 different species, there was at least one random other mushroom mixed into the original species #2 pictures. Odd that they would be growing so close together and look so closely alike. Its a good lesson to always check every mushroom for me.
I accept that a lot of if not all confusion should be placed on me.
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