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Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother
    #18818544 - 09/09/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This is only my second/third trip ever. My first was some "LSD" but got no visuals, only scary ass thoughts. Anyways I took 20mg last week and decided 40mg would be cool. Next time I am going all in at ~70mg maybe 80. I'll see you guys on the other side of the moon :cool::mushroom2:


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18818564 - 09/09/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck man, I'm sure you're going to have an awesome time.  Doubling your dose should make it a hell of a lot stronger.  Was 20mg pretty weak or moderate or what?


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18818577 - 09/09/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well it was a cool experience but overall just lacked. Currently, I'm already feeling a bit giddy euphoria and warping if I stare.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: searching]
    #18818580 - 09/09/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

im sure 40mg will be crazy. I wish you safe and happy travels :aweyeah: 

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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18818737 - 09/09/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Jamesdnh said:
Well it was a cool experience but overall just lacked. Currently, I'm already feeling a bit giddy euphoria and warping if I stare.




I'm surprised to hear that. From, what I've read 40mg should have rocked your g-spot.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: tothemoon]
    #18818839 - 09/09/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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tothemoon said:
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Jamesdnh said:
Well it was a cool experience but overall just lacked. Currently, I'm already feeling a bit giddy euphoria and warping if I stare.




I'm surprised to hear that. From, what I've read 40mg should have rocked your g-spot.




I think he was referring to the 20mg experience, he just ate the 40mg like an hour and a half ago


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: el_barto]
    #18818854 - 09/09/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haven't done 40, but 35 was quite a bit more vibin than 20. Enjoy :tripping:


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18818960 - 09/09/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a story from a guy on reddit. He took 100mg of 4-AcO-DMT as his first psychedelic experience.

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I knew it was gonna be intense, but nothing even close to what I experienced last night. I am, and always have been, a very spiritual person, so I was pretty sure that wherever this trip would take me, it would be an amazing experience.
I poured the extremely fine fumarate powder in a glass, added lemonade and stirred for about a minute, until the white powder was completely dissolved. I also ate some almonds and a bit of dark chocolate, just because I didn't want to have an empty stomach.
I had a little bit of some decent weed as well, to ease the anticipation and anxiety, so I took a few hits of my joint, drank the lemonade and waited...
After 30 minutes, I started having some mild visuals, mostly in the form of patterns and trailings, but nothing grand. After 45 minutes, I could tell that my vision had already been greatly enhanced, more specifically my peripheral vision. I could see everything in great detail, and objects started to show a light blue, almost neon-like halo around them.
The type on my computer screen seemed to be in 3D, and the pictures looked much more vibrant than usual, always with a light blue, near-neon cast. My hearing was also very precise. I put on Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here", and I could easily hear EVERYTHING that was being played/sung/spoken in that album.
After ~1.5 hours into the trip, I decided to get off the computer and go lay on the couch, because my legs and arms had simply stopped working properly. This is when things got real...
I started feeling more and more relaxed, my visuals got way more complex and beautiful. I started seeing something like this, only in a very bright purple-blueish color, expanding forever in every direction by means of fractal growth.
My breathing slowed down to maybe 10 or less breaths per minute, although this is just an estimate; time had begun to lose all meaning. I then realized that time is just something that humans have created.
We're the only ones who care about time. Somehow, I felt as if I already knew that, but "everyday reality" had hidden that fact from me. This made me sad, but I understood that there is a reason for that. At this point, my body was shaking, much like when having an after-pee tremor.
A feeling of pure, untainted, infinite love came over me. This incredible feeling of love and simple and pure joy made me gasp repeatedly, like when we're hit with really cold water. I closed my eyes, relaxed even more, I let out a huge yawn...and then I left my body. I was no longer "Me". I was everything that ever was, or ever will be, and it's always been like that. I received lots of information on how things work, and why everything is the way it is.
I understood that nothing is inherently good nor evil. Again, I felt as if I already knew that, but these facts of Universal truth are kept hidden from us while in human form (that's what I got out of it anyway). My soul is drifting in and out of my body, non-stop, almost as if being playful, and I am just basking in the most perfect joy I have ever felt.
Yes, my soul (or consciousness, if you prefer) would come back to my body every so often, and every time this happened, I would feel something like an orgasm, complete with gasp and everything, only 1000 times stronger and w/o any sexual connotation. My soul has no sexual identity, nor a gender. The true "Me" is pure energy, the same energy that makes up absolutely everything in the Universe.
While on the couch, my soul left my body at least 5 times. My soul would stay in my body for a few moments, and then I would yawn and it would leave again, only to show me more end more things, like experiencing life from everybody's perspective. I could recall any past experience from my current life, like say, an argument or conversation with a person or a group of people, and I could replay the same conversation from other person's point of view, and I could switch from one person's POV to another by just thinking of it.
I found this to be very pleasant, and I understood that it is only logical to be able to do this, since I am part of everything, and everything is a part of me. At this point, I thought my trip was peaking, and things would only get smoother from here on...
Wrong. I tried to get up, but my legs wouldn't work. I felt as if I needed to re-learn how to walk again. While I was clumsily attempting to walk, I could feel that I was not 100% in my body. Kinda hard to explain now, but I felt as if I was floating above my body.
I finally made to the kitchen, where I drank half a gallon of green tea in one chug. I could see, in a multi-dimensional way, the tea hitting my stomach and being absorbed by my body. I looked down, I saw my belly, my feet, my overall human form, and it felt like I was wearing a suit.
I could feel my 41 year-old human body breaking down, slowly dying, and it was OK to know this. My legs started to weaken again, this could only mean that my soul wanted to get out yet again, so I rushed to my bed, where I laid for who knows how long, shaking, gasping and overpowered by this feeling of complete happiness.
I experienced ego death at least another 5 times, and every time my soul would leave my body, it was to show me new and wonderful things. (It's been 12 hours since my trip, and I'm forgetting all about it pretty quick, which is a shame. Again, there's a reason for that), but I distinctly recall seeing some scenes of ancient history. I saw written language being developed, many years ago. Also, I remember being shown scenes of everyday life in what it looked like India, or maybe a lost culture.
I also understood that my soul has left my body a few times before this trip, recalling an experience when I was 12 years old and had the measles with extremely high fever, and other times when I was a little kid. I had no idea of this. Back to the trip...
I'm lying in bed, and my soul would keep jumping in and out of my body, which was very tiresome. I felt exhausted, yet so full of joy that I didn't want this to end. I decided that I needed to eat something, but I wasn't hungry at all, so I smoked some weed in an attempt to get the munchies. Bad decision. I think smoking pot re-started my trip, this time with a bad vibe...
I started walking, but my legs gave out and I just collapsed onto the floor, flat on my ass. I was pretty sure I was gonna die, and I perfectly remember having the choice to let go and die, or keep living. Either way, I'd be fine. I immediately thought of my little daughters and decided that I couldn't die and leave them without a dad.
I realized this was my ego talking, since I grew up w/o a dad, and it sucked. I started sweating like I never had before, dripping all over the hallway, but I knew by then that I wasn't gonna die. I realized that I was in control of this trip, and it was up to me to make it a wonderful experience, or a hellish one.
I stepped into a shower, opened the faucet...and the water felt incredible. The moment the water touched my skin, I instantly knew that this water was as old as the Universe. Every molecule of it felt like part of me, just like I'm part of everything. While in the shower, my soul leapt in and out at least 2 more times, being necessary to sit in the bathtub because my legs would stop supporting me.
After the shower, I slowly returned to be the old "Me". I got really hungry, ate everything in the fridge, drank the rest of my tea, and went to bed. Like I said, memories from this mind-shattering trip are fading quickly, and eventually, my ego will take over again. All in all, this trip has been an awesome experience. I know my life will never be the same.
Everything was being shown to me in such a gentle and loving way, I was overcame with pure joy, for the first time in my life. I have truly seen the world, and it's beautiful beyond description. I can't wait to do it again.




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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: d9c6]
    #18819141 - 09/09/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

4-aco. I only did 30mgs when I had it. a shame I'm all out, and that nobody has any around here anymore.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: themusicofzann]
    #18819253 - 09/09/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Holy JEEBUS was that intense lol I can't wait to see what 80mg will be like. I literally just felt like I was living in a fake world and that God was all that existed. I was playing Outlast pretty late last night and boy, felt like that evil fucker was cutting off my fingers today lol Anyways you guys all say this shit should kick me in the ass? I doubt many things could have been more fear invoking than what I just conjured up over the past 3 hours. Slithering octopus things crawling around eating me and crap. I feel great now though haha my brother is still coming down. Hard to believe at the beginning I was losing my sanity and now I never felt so lucid.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18819279 - 09/09/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Whoa there hold your horses. Jumping from 40 to 80 mg is quite ridiculous. I promise you what you experienced isn't shit compared to what's possible on these drugs. It can get farrrrrrr better. And farrrrrrrr worse


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: themusicofzann]
    #18819313 - 09/09/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Have a good one.  I was rolling around and we were having a grand time and got electronic permutations & some translinguistic activity; IE
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On tryptamines it is possible, under special conditions, to hear and vocalize a sound that turns through a higher dimensional manifold and condenses as translinguistic matter, i.e., matter reduplicated upon itself through time, much as a hologram is reduplicated through space.




Translinguistic matter, in the McKennas’ various descriptions, plays the role of a magical substance which, perceived in psychedelic states, can be used to create things, any-things, as if it were a precursor material to the Stone it/self. Terence McKenna describes Dennis McKenna’s run-up to the Experiment as a function of this substance in action whose harnessing would instantiate the Stone..


The substance whose appearance the sounds initiate is tryptamine metabolized by mind through a higher spatial dimension. It is a hyperdimensional molecule carrying its trip on the outside of itself in “this” world. The hyperdimensional nature of this material is such that it is all material, concepts, events, words, people, and ideas homogenized into one thing via the higher dimensional alchemy of mind. –Dennis McKenna 1.



Relative to natural language broadcasting on station normal, this represents a high degree of novelty. Recombinant descriptors: hyperdimensional obsidian violet vomited opalescent magical fluid glittering shit. Precious bodily fluids, indeed. Translinguistic matter as the liquid phase-state of the Stone? An unspeakable liquid linguistic substance that bespeaks objects into existence—and we’ve come round to the machine elves again. One flows into the other; permutations of the linguistic machinery glimpsed behind reality.


http://psychedelicsandlanguage.com/mckenna-connection/translinguistic-matter/



Also you'd better wait 11 days days at least(more than 2 weeks may be best) and let your body calm down and reset; gather for the next blast off and don't do more than 60... 

Trust me: the character changes on this one at higher doses in a dissociative way that can be disphoric (come down combo?)


The finger cutoff is probably vasoconstriction; yea it kicks your ass (in a rude way)- I like mushrooms better anyways...  low dose combos are OK.

If you want more Oomph than using MAOI with low dose one needs less for greater effects with less vasoconstriction; works nicely.

Get some vasodialators to work with to combat the vasoconstriction:

Niacin, nitric oxide, yohimbe, Kola nut and l-arginine.
Some alcohol maybe if no MAOI is being used.


Glad you had fun but be safe; a user just reported a close call with 4-AcO.

Can you tell us anything else about your experiences; maybe a report from your bro? 

Keep hydrated.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: flickedbic]
    #18819321 - 09/09/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nitrous and herb is definitely my favorite way to go farther


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18819330 - 09/09/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Let us know how it goes  :trippinballs:


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18819351 - 09/09/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

40 mg is a very high dose imho


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: i like cow poo]
    #18819380 - 09/09/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

80 is alot. good vibes


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18819469 - 09/09/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Jamesdnh said:
Holy JEEBUS was that intense lol I can't wait to see what 80mg will be like. I literally just felt like I was living in a fake world and that God was all that existed. I was playing Outlast pretty late last night and boy, felt like that evil fucker was cutting off my fingers today lol Anyways you guys all say this shit should kick me in the ass? I doubt many things could have been more fear invoking than what I just conjured up over the past 3 hours. Slithering octopus things crawling around eating me and crap. I feel great now though haha my brother is still coming down. Hard to believe at the beginning I was losing my sanity and now I never felt so lucid.



yeah, 40mg is pretty intense. be wary though, double the dose doesnt equal double effect. if you double your dose you can expect a trip about 4 times stronger... 4-aco is a hell of a drug, and people underestimate it because they arent impressed by 20mg doses. i think 30mg is that border where shit gets trippy


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: sailing]
    #18819557 - 09/09/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've had a batch of 4aco where 40mg was as powerful as 100mg of my other batch.  The 100mg felt like mushrooms and the 40mg was a more raw extracted trip. It felt like two different drugs really. There's probably a lot of potency variation with this chemical since many reports say that 40mg for example was underwhelming, or overwhelming. I can't be the only one that's noticed this but it isn't really mentioned ever.  Did anyone else notice something similar?


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18819614 - 09/09/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll write up a report for you guys after I gather myself. Pretty much completely down now. I have no idea what "level" it got to because I have nothing to compare to but CEV's were boring compared to my OEV's. My couch is a brown cloth with little specks of black everywhere like every 2mm but I saw them crawling around like they were ants and creating their own world. It's what calmed me down from the fact that I was in hell and needed a reason to still be alive.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18821268 - 09/09/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Trip Report

09/09/2013
Age:18
Weight:~185lbs

*All times besides dosage and ending are rough estimate because my phone, tv, and tablet were off.

Background info: This was only my second ever trip that I have taken, first being the Friday immediately before it which was 20mg 4-aco in a gelcap. I also tried "LSD" once which was probably a 2cX and "MDMA" which for all I know could have been DXM.

Outside forecast: Gloomy and overcast, somewhat chilly, rain all day

Trip: 10:00 (0 hour) I weigh out two doses, one for me, one for my brother. Both diving in at 40mg to get a little "weird" as Adam on Workaholics would say.

+30 minutes: I have this creeping feeling of the drug slowly coming in. I remember how it was from the first time so this was nothing truly special just anxiety or so I thought.

1 hour in: I start getting very nervous, things suddenly shifted. It was like I was so amped to finally have done it and now, well, it got "WEIRD". I'm laying on my couch not restful at all and really just uneasy. My brother was outside in our backyard sitting on a lawn chair and I tell him he needs to come inside. I have this overarching ache of fear but do not want to worry him. I gave in about 5 minutes after talking to him and the words coming out were that I thought I was wasting time, I just want this drug out of me, I don't know what I want, and that I'm going crazy. At the time the visuals were only of swirling and slight rainbow spectrums around items but wasn't enough to be entertaining.

1hr 30 mins in: That feeling was intensified to the 10th degree. I told my brother for the 100th time at least that I NEED this drug out of me, that I AM GOING CRAZY etc. If you have played the videogame The Darkness II, I felt like I was insane and my whole life people were attempting to make me better. I could not calm down and so we went outside into the rain in the backyard and I sat in his seat. I stared at the ground and the weeds growing in our backyard (Arizona, no real plants or grass, just weeds) and felt like I was in an asylum trying to be calmed down. This was worsened by the fact that my brother goes introspective when he is high and does not talk much to me.

1hr 45minutes: We go back inside because I really just cannot calm down. We open up all the doors and let light in so that darkness doesn't creep in and things SLIGHTLY get better. I lay on the couch and envelope myself into a blanket at which point I felt I was now in hell. I had this feeling that I was tricked into taking drugs by the "devil" and that I had just partaken in a paganistic ritual. I grew up very Christian so this was discerning. The blanket I was laying in transformed to be a fish. Not that it was a fish, that I was becoming a fish, morphing into something evil. That happened and I sat up and changed places and placed the blanket back on me. This time to sit on the couch next to me only to feel like I was becoming the bug from A Scanner Darkly.

2hrs: I just want it to end. Death would be better than this. I laid back down on the couch were I was turning into a fish. At least I knew my head was okay then. Laying there I had this moral dilemma of how the world was hell and that I needed the bible to show it's way into my life. It seemed closing my eyes made it a little better so I laid facing up for the time being. This scared me when I contorted and felt my pillow be pulled away from me, really just me accidentally pushing it off the couch. This went ON AND ON. I always thought these drugs were supposed to be CEV's but the truth was I had none and what scared me was that OEV's were going on that I couldn't see when they were shut.

2hrs 15minutes: I roll over and place my head on a cushion on the ground which was just high enough so the space between my forehead and chin were suspended. At this point, this is when I finally faced my demons. What was it that finally came through? Since my perceptions were being f***d in a way that I couldn't even read the Holy Bible on my tablet for comfort (words were squigling around everywhere and felt neausous with my hands up above my waist) I had to rely on myself. I figured if God sent me here, well, I would have to break out myself. And this is where I regained control.

2hrs 30minutes till end: I laid face down there in torment for so long I said fuck it. I started getting demented CEV's at this point or at least, every time I blinked they were more and more evil. Things like the kid from the grudge and that screwed up limb thing but hundreds of em running around and every time I blinked I was illuminating them and they were getting more and more pissed. I was no longer scared though, I now knew they were my imagination. Easier to not blink from now on though haha so for what felt like an hour and a half I stared at the couch pillow and saw the little design that is just black tiny dots everywhere on a brown couch, move as if they were ants. I could see them making their own world in front of me in a perfect machine. They never went out of order or were ever chaotic. Just a perfect world before my eyes. At one point I rolled back over onto my back and laid my forearm over one eye. It was like I could see through it and my right eye was day and left side was day without artificial light. My hands had 10x the creases that they normally do and what's cool of my trips is that I always see words inscribed in myself (don't ask me what they read. Again, demonic crap, but it's not really scary to me at least). This helped me see that everything in life is beautiful and I just need to slow down to realize it.

3hrs: 1:00pm rolled around because I heard a cell phone alarm going off in the other room playing piano. I stood up and walked over to shut it off. Scared as hell. Long hallway with a piano playing?? Anyways, nothing could make me shit my pants as much as what just happened earlier so it was all good. I went and looked at the birds we have in a cage, 2 which I don't know what kind. I thought it was so cool that they have natural designs like indians would paint on themselves. Beautiful arrays of blue and multiple pairs of eyes. Made me want to paint them on myself. Now completely down, my brother still buzzing, I was overall just so happy and here's why.

Conclusion: I was forced to fight my fears that I have. Mine always being the dark, and also that life is fake. I felt hell beating down on me and at one point wanted to die. I feel liberated now knowing that I have fought for my right to live and as of 10pm tonight I feel as though I have been let free from some things. I sure hope my next trip doesn't start out so screwed up, like the eeriness that one small mistep on a piano can cause. What I can say however is that I feel great to be alive and know that I was never in any real danger.



Btw some weird effect I noticed last time was that my visual snow I get when blinking was erased after my 20mg dose. It just turned flat and would be red or blue. Now my blinking has it back with visions of faces and strange octopus limbs which I saw sometimes during the trip. Anyone have the ability to explain why?

Also, please rate what level trip this was achieved. I have read that full on level five should take me out of this dimension. That is what I was aiming for and honestly am completely let down. Sure, I just described a pretty horrid time but I am a Psych major. I indulge in these drugs for the craziness that is involved for the reason I am experiencing now. A total removal of anxiety and inhibitions in social environments after the long winded lesson. Albeit that is subjective to me, but I am sure others feel this way too. I feel safe thinking of doubling the dose yet again, although not for a few weeks considering time restraints of school and work and such.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18821544 - 09/10/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Conclusion: I was forced to fight my fears that I have. Mine always being the dark, and also that life is fake. I felt hell beating down on me and at one point wanted to die. I feel liberated now knowing that I have fought for my right to live and as of 10pm tonight I feel as though I have been let free from some things. I sure hope my next trip doesn't start out so screwed up, like the eeriness that one small mistep on a piano can cause. What I can say however is that I feel great to be alive and know that I was never in any real danger.



you're from the bible belt arent you? if i had to guess i'd say morman? one thing you should try to understand is that the bible isnt really the word of god, its been changed so many times throughout history that it has lost its authenticity. kings deciding they want to change the rules so they tell the church to change the bible so that they can do what they want to do. heaven and hell were an invention by the church, as a scare tactic and a reward system. have your parents ever said "if you keep making that face itll get stuck"? its the same idea, its silly to think your face would actually get stuck, but if you're young enough, hearing that will scare the crap out of you so you dont do it again.

You're going to have a rough journey to your true spiritual awakening. the message that psychedelics send are so opposite from the church. but i think if you follow the path you will be a better person for it.

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Btw some weird effect I noticed last time was that my visual snow I get when blinking was erased after my 20mg dose. It just turned flat and would be red or blue. Now my blinking has it back with visions of faces and strange octopus limbs which I saw sometimes during the trip. Anyone have the ability to explain why?




thats cause you're still high bro

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Also, please rate what level trip this was achieved. I have read that full on level five should take me out of this dimension. That is what I was aiming for and honestly am completely let down. Sure, I just described a pretty horrid time but I am a Psych major. I indulge in these drugs for the craziness that is involved for the reason I am experiencing now. A total removal of anxiety and inhibitions in social environments after the long winded lesson. Albeit that is subjective to me, but I am sure others feel this way too. I feel safe thinking of doubling the dose yet again, although not for a few weeks considering time restraints of school and work and such.



rating a trip by levels is so subjective, and those levels were really made for mushrooms more than any other drug. dont worry about what level you got to, cause really it doesnt matter.


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    #18821638 - 09/10/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nitrous and herb is definitely my favorite way to go farther



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    #18822158 - 09/10/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha I've felt this"shift" on 4 aco..

The devil has nothing to do with all this though haha, we as humans are spiritual beings. We blame the unknown on religion created by ourselves.

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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: sailing]
    #18822281 - 09/10/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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you're from the bible belt arent you? if i had to guess i'd say morman? one thing you should try to understand is that the bible isnt really the word of god, its been changed so many times throughout history that it has lost its authenticity. kings deciding they want to change the rules so they tell the church to change the bible so that they can do what they want to do. heaven and hell were an invention by the church, as a scare tactic and a reward system. have your parents ever said "if you keep making that face itll get stuck"? its the same idea, its silly to think your face would actually get stuck, but if you're young enough, hearing that will scare the crap out of you so you dont do it again.

You're going to have a rough journey to your true spiritual awakening. the message that psychedelics send are so opposite from the church. but i think if you follow the path you will be a better person for it.





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First of all mormons don't even believe in your formal christian concept of hell

Second of all the fact that you feel the need to write any of this to this guy is really mind blowing.  I guess you think anyone who mentions the bible takes it as 100% gods word for every word and doesn't realize it has been manipulated by man :/  I Could go on but whatever probably nobody else feels the same way as I do about this post.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Noobiesnack]
    #18822495 - 09/10/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's OK man. He was just stating his opinion on a public forum. Mormon's use the book or Mormon though man. My father was my pastor my whole life and he passed away in December. I was brought up Christian and I still attend with my Mom because I still live with her. Just because I'm a christian doesn't mean I'm blind. And I'm pretty sure the bible belt is on the east right? I was born in California, grew up in Colorado, moved back to California for my dad to pass thena mother family took us in here in Arizona. Sadly their 19 year old daughter probably couldn't handle this drug :/

So levels would not be an important statistic? Does that mean 4-aco just through oral ingestion will never leave me in true awe? The dark scares me so much and I just want that taken away from me. I ended up with PTSD from a traumatic experience the same week my dad passed and I never was quite the same.

And final question. Was this ego death or should I go deeper into the rabbit hole?


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18822538 - 09/10/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: snoot]
    #18822545 - 09/10/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.



I'm not gonna IV a drug which could be unsterile. I'm already taking an RC. Don't want to increase risks. But I have heard K is a ride.


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    #18822575 - 09/10/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's OK man. He was just stating his opinion on a public forum. Mormon's use the book or Mormon though man. My father was my pastor my whole life and he passed away in December. I was brought up Christian and I still attend with my Mom because I still live with her. Just because I'm a christian doesn't mean I'm blind. And I'm pretty sure the bible belt is on the east right? I was born in California, grew up in Colorado, moved back to California for my dad to pass thena mother family took us in here in Arizona. Sadly their 19 year old daughter probably couldn't handle this drug :/

So levels would not be an important statistic? Does that mean 4-aco just through oral ingestion will never leave me in true awe? The dark scares me so much and I just want that taken away from me. I ended up with PTSD from a traumatic experience the same week my dad passed and I never was quite the same.

And final question. Was this ego death or should I go deeper into the rabbit hole?




I can't tell based on your report... But did you ever get the feeling that you stepped outside of your brain into a realm where all consciousness was just a soup of energy? Like you and your brother were really just the same existence manifested into two diverging branches so to speak? That would be ego death. You completely lose concept of the "I" and become a part of the "all". Sometimes it lasts a split second, sometimes it's a rather dominating theme. I have experienced it on 35 mg of 4-aco-dmt but I was also smoking a lot of weed and doing 3 or so whippets at a time all night... So that may have contributed...

But you will know when it happens. It's generally characterized by a "did you see that?" "yeah I see it?" "but no that's not what I'm talking about, do you see THIS" "yeah dude I see it." " the same thing?" "yeah" "so you are experiencing the same thing as... WHOAAAAAAAAA!!!! Dafuq" and words fail you and all you can do is stare and nod and smile "I get it". Everything makes sense. You can trace any part of your life experience to any other part because they are all entangled in this all-encompassing web of relations. Like you're one cell that makes up a larger body.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18822665 - 09/10/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.



I'm not gonna IV a drug which could be unsterile. I'm already taking an RC. Don't want to increase risks. But I have heard K is a ride.





So you dont want to IV most any drug. K


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: snoot]
    #18823559 - 09/10/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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eating dmt fumurate? lol try IVing it with a splash of k.



I'm not gonna IV a drug which could be unsterile. I'm already taking an RC. Don't want to increase risks. But I have heard K is a ride.





So you dont want to IV most any drug. K



Which was my point. If I found K, we're going insufflation not IV or IM.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Atrium]
    #18826849 - 09/11/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing in this life has changed me as much as my IV(dmt) experiences. Beautiful.


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: snoot]
    #18827262 - 09/11/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

4 aco dmt can be strong in oral doses but never really was too much for me orally even at 50mg then after a while 40 more mg but 25 mg iv was insane. and actually its not as bad as people think to iv this imho because if you use a quality vendor you will get like 98 or so precent purity and that's much more pure than you will get anything else


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #18827987 - 09/11/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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4 aco dmt can be strong in oral doses but never really was too much for me orally even at 50mg then after a while 40 more mg but 25 mg iv was insane. and actually its not as bad as people think to iv this imho because if you use a quality vendor you will get like 98 or so precent purity and that's much more pure than you will get anything else



have you written a trip report?  I haven't read many IV reports


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Re: Just took 40mg 4-aco-dmt fumurate with my brother [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18830540 - 09/11/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Only advice I can offer is to use the time afterwards for reflection, it sounds like you brought a lot back with you and you might not have "gone through it all" yet :wink:

Things will begin to open up a bit for you, and the negative thoughts deep down will dissolve.  Thanks for sharing with us


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    #18830631 - 09/11/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I used to dislike oral dosing but I just made a chocolate and have no upset tummy or negative thoughts I hate gelcaps for the stomach aces. and before I think I disliked this due to bad thought and mostly stuff going on with me but now I see how great it is. and iv is intense stuff


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