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Rblone
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Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?!
#18817859 - 09/09/13 05:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello people!
Im in the process of growing me some Mckennai and Koh Samui grow kits from zamnesia.com. The kits are 100% mycelium, of this kind: http://www.zamnesia.com/280-mycelium-kit . I have to say they grew amazingly fast, I had about 500g wet mushrooms from the two kits after only 10-11 after recieving the kit. As you can see on the picture under the growth was nearly perfect, filling the whole kit with nice shrooms. This happened to both strains, very good!

But now as the secoung flush is coming up, not nearly as much shrooms are coming up. On both kits the shrooms only grow on the sides, coming up from the cracks on the side. I really dont know why? It does not look contaminated and the shrooms that are coming look healthy. But I was expecting MUCH more, do any of you know why this is happening? Look at the pic:

The conditions have been 99% the same as last flush. But one thing I remember, when preparing the second flush, one is to add water for 12 hours and pour out the rest. I did this 12 hours one of the kits, but not the second, as that would be very late at night.. Maybe the one kit had 9 or 10 hours. But I dont think this has too much to say since they both have grown about the same?
Please help, maybe there is something I could do to improve the third flush significantly?
I hope so!
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Rblone]
#18817865 - 09/09/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome results from a kit 
The reason you are getting side pinning is the moisture is pooling on the inside of your little tub, then evaporating off.
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Rblone
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Sockadin]
#18817877 - 09/09/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Awesome results from a kit 
The reason you are getting side pinning is the moisture is pooling on the inside of your little tub, then evaporating off.
Thanks!
Ok,so what would you recommend me to do? Im guessing that there is nothing to do this this flush, just let it grow.. Pick it and start the next?
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Rblone]
#18817881 - 09/09/13 05:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is it possible the nutrients of the kit is simply spent with such a massive first flush?
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Rblone
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18817895 - 09/09/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kjetterfaen said: Is it possible the nutrients of the kit is simply spent with such a massive first flush?
Yeah that would be logical, I really dont know. The site says you can expect about 800 grams wet from these so that really might be a possibility.. But I just feel that it should not be like this, that something is wrong.. But maybe its just the nutes. Any way to add nutrients now or is that way to late? 
Fellow scandinavian here btw!
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18817932 - 09/09/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kjetterfaen said: Is it possible the nutrients of the kit is simply spent with such a massive first flush?
I think this^^ is what is going on. When You get a massive first flush like that it is pretty much tapped out. We see the same thing in monotubs
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Rblone]
#18817986 - 09/09/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rblone said:
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Kjetterfaen said: Is it possible the nutrients of the kit is simply spent with such a massive first flush?
Yeah that would be logical, I really dont know. The site says you can expect about 800 grams wet from these so that really might be a possibility.. But I just feel that it should not be like this, that something is wrong.. But maybe its just the nutes. Any way to add nutrients now or is that way to late? 
Fellow scandinavian here btw! 
Good to see I am not alone.
I don't think there is much to do about adding nutrients at this stage. I am by no means an expert, but I seem to remember reading that liquid nutrients do little to help. And trying to add solids would probably not be a good idea... and shit, if you had that you might as well just make new cakes. Speaking of which, did you nab a print from one of the badboys from the first flush?
By the way, if they advertised 800 and you got 500+ then I think you have pretty good results. I would expect any estimates made by the vendor to be inflated, or at least not representative of the average. I mean, "anywhere from 100-1000 grams wet!" would possibly be more honest, but it would also be a shitty advertisement...
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18817988 - 09/09/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah those are great results dude! Celebrate man!
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Rblone
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18818018 - 09/09/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said:
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Kjetterfaen said: Is it possible the nutrients of the kit is simply spent with such a massive first flush?
I think this^^ is what is going on. When You get a massive first flush like that it is pretty much tapped out. We see the same thing in monotubs
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Kjetterfaen said:
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Rblone said:
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Kjetterfaen said: Is it possible the nutrients of the kit is simply spent with such a massive first flush?
Yeah that would be logical, I really dont know. The site says you can expect about 800 grams wet from these so that really might be a possibility.. But I just feel that it should not be like this, that something is wrong.. But maybe its just the nutes. Any way to add nutrients now or is that way to late? 
Fellow scandinavian here btw! 
Good to see I am not alone.
I don't think there is much to do about adding nutrients at this stage. I am by no means an expert, but I seem to remember reading that liquid nutrients do little to help. And trying to add solids would probably not be a good idea... and shit, if you had that you might as well just make new cakes. Speaking of which, did you nab a print from one of the badboys from the first flush?
By the way, if they advertised 800 and you got 500+ then I think you have pretty good results. I would expect any estimates made by the vendor to be inflated, or at least not representative of the average. I mean, "anywhere from 100-1000 grams wet!" would possibly be more honest, but it would also be a shitty advertisement...
Yeah I think your right! No I didnt take any prints actually, I might do it now on the second flush. But the reason I want as much as possible out of this is because Im living at home still, so I just want to get as much as possible and stop growing if you know what I mean. And thats why Im not sure Im gonna take prints and stuff because I just do as little as possible while im still living with at home. But I really wanted to do a monotub and stuff by myself.. Will do it when I move for sure! But Ive got a really good stealth box I made myself, so getting busted is acutally kind of hard
Check it out, PC cabinet with LED 6700k lighing and a PC fan wired to a contact. All light holes are tight, and the ventilation in there seems to be pretty perfect for a couple of grow kits. No way you can see something is growing in there 

Yeah I guess these are great results to be happy with 
This is what I got on each: Koh Samui: Wet: 225,9
Mckennai: Våt: 293 <-- Even had some more that I didnt pick and way.
And some nice sized shrooms still on the way..
Some more pics:
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Rblone
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Stromrider]
#18818032 - 09/09/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Yeah those are great results dude! Celebrate man! 
Hehe, thanks! Yeah Im happy.. Me and some friends were tripping so hard on these a few days ago. Had about 5g's dried each, wow it was insane.. I mean we where functional like we could walk slow and talk slow and stuff, but so much visuals and hallucinations! And it was such a wierd feeling, like we never got back to normal and reality was just so warped, all aware that we would land of course because weve done it lots before.. But still questioning everything, reality and stuff all the time and it was like we just was like this now. It was like a trip inside a trip inside a trip.. Haha, man that was a really trippy experience!
Edited by Rblone (09/09/13 07:36 AM)
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Rblone]
#18818034 - 09/09/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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how frequently do you open the bag for spraying water or give fresh air exchange?
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Rblone
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Outbreaker]
#18818041 - 09/09/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Outbreaker said: how frequently do you open the bag for spraying water or give fresh air exchange?
If I remember correctly I just sprayed water after a day or two when recieving it.. But just a little.. I just thought: use less than you think, they need to breathe. But when I saw them start coming up, I sprayed the inside of the bag pretty good. I think thats all I did until harvesting them. Because I could see the humidity on the inside of the bag, therefore I didnt spray because the it had enough. So just keep the inside walls of the bag misted, especially when they start popping up. And ofc be very clean and dont breathe into the bag!
Edited by Rblone (09/09/13 07:41 AM)
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Outbreaker]
#18818044 - 09/09/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Make you a print and save it. It will keep until you get ready to use it. There are plenty of good spore print teks on here. It is pretty much impossible to get a 100% sterile spore print so don't worry too much about that. You can use agar to clean it up when you get ready to use it. I mean you still want to get as clean of a print as you can but I am just saying it is very hard to get a perfectly clean one outside of a lab enviroment
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Re: Grow kit, 2nd flush really disappointing?! [Re: Rblone]
#18818049 - 09/09/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rblone said:
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psillyshroomer said: Yeah those are great results dude! Celebrate man! 
Hehe, thanks! Yeah Im happy.. Me and some friends were tripping so hard on these a few days ago. Had about 5g's dried each, wow it was insane.. I mean we where functional like we could walk slow and talk slow and stuff, but so much visuals and hallucinations! And it was such a wierd feeling, like we never got back to normal and reality was just so warped, all aware that we would land of course because weve done it lots before.. But still questioning everything, reality and stuff all the time and it was like we just was like this now. It was like a trip inside a trip inside a trip.. Haha, man that was a really trippy experience! 
Sounds trippy I have been there bro. I am sure I will be there again soon
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