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MXE Legality
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So im a bit confused
Methoxetamine is an analog of Ketamine if im not mistaken, and the Analogue Act only applies to Schedule 1 or 2 Drugs
Ketamine, is Schedule 3
Wouldn't this make MXE perfectly legal, since its not scheduled?
Please, correct me if im wrong Im having trouble getting this Thanks,
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Check your local and national laws regarding substance legality.
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Re: MXE Legality [Re: Sheekle]
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It's an analog of PCP, PCP is schedule 1
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PCP is actually Schedule 2 sir and are you sure that it would be considered a PCP analog?
PCP
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You'd have to have very little self control to get addicted to MXE in my opinion. Then again, people go crazy on nitrous; so if that's a problem for you then MXE might be one as well.
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This is what it says on Erowid Methoxetamine is not a clear analog of any Schedule I or II controlled substance and is therefore not a controlled substance Analogue under the U.S. Analogue Act.
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MXE is much more habit forming than meth IMO
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I honestly am not really the addictive type I can smoke a cig now or then to potentiate weed or something like that
With out being a a normal smoker what-so-ever
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With out being a a normal smoker what-so-ever
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Bro, once you use MXE you won't want to stop, I'll bet $20.
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is it really that bad?
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I don't know what you mean.
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Yeah using cigarettes to gauge your susceptibility to addiction is a laugh. MXE is pretty addictive, but I don't think it's reallty THAT hard to stop using it. I ran out a few days ago after a small binge and haven't even thought about it or had a strong urge to buy more. It's just when I have some it's hard for me not to do a line of it.
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SeattleBlue said: is it really that bad?
Have you ever tried any other dissociatives that you've had a problem with?
Some people get really addicted to DXM, nitrous and ketamine, those people definitely shouldn't start using MXE
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Have you ever tried any other dissociatives that you've had a problem with?
Some people get really addicted to DXM, nitrous and ketamine, those people definitely shouldn't start using MXE
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Ive had my fair use of DXM, and ive gotten no-where near close to addicted to Nitrous
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IMO if you liked DXM enough to keep choking down bottles of cough medicine after your first experience with it then your gonna get addicted 
Nah but just imagine a better, more euphoric form of DXM where all you have to do is snort a small bump and your high as hell for hours. It can escalate pretty quickly
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yeah, i guess that sounds amazing i love the high dxm experience to death ...cough syrup but a nice little small bump for something even better sounds 
nonetheless, i still wanna try it can i get an info on the health side of things does it cause a lot of problems like Ketamine, with daily use?
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Not sure what all you mean by "problems" but I do know MXE doesn't have the same risk as fucking up your bladder that ketamine has. But I've read about people getting some pretty hardcore psychosis with heavy daily use.
Also MXE upregulates seretonin receptors and is an extremely effective anti-depressant because of it, lasting days and sometimes up to a week after use. But this also causes people to gain more of a dependency to it.
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MXE is currently EMERGENCY SCHEDULED by the DEA making it SCHEDULE 1 right now. it may be rescheduled but for the year it is schedule 1.
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MXE is much more habit forming than meth IMO

People can fall into habit forming behavior with basically any drug. Ketamine and MXE are basically the only dissociatives I've done, and of the 2 I find K to be a lot more habit forming FOR ME. I guess last year I had a very minor MXE habit if once every week or two counts. This year when I've had K I'd say that was a lot worse though, dosing almost every night and easily multiple times a week. I personally don't think that MXE is as habit forming for most people as an opiate might be if all were made available in the same way. Not saying it can't happen but just is a lower chance than the notoriously habit forming drugs. There's always exceptions though.
@ OP - MXE is a cool drug though and it gets my seal of approval 
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/methoxetamine/methoxetamine_law.shtml
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Re: MXE Legality [Re: Sheekle]
#18818089 - 09/09/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: its addicting ull get addiced run away
Yea I see people posting about mxe saying how enticing it is to be in that mind state.
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At first it can be exciting. It becomes pretty ordinary and somewhat boring though if you start using it more often. 
It stupifies you as you take more, so the deeper headspace you find can be fun; but often times little to nothing is learned or retained because of the impaired cognitive function.
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Re: MXE Legality [Re: extreme]
#18818101 - 09/09/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MXE is definitely more habit forming for me, I'm sure most people will disagree but meth just wasn't nearly as addictive to me as it is for most people. When I get a gram of MXE I'll dose every day taking 1-2 days off here and there until it's gone. I've had a quarter gram of meth in my posession for the past few months and haven't even put much thought into dosing it at all.
I also get a slight opiate feeling with MXE that I think is what I crave the most about it. After taking a break for a while and doing a line the first thing I notice is that nice warm feeling it gives me.
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It stupifies you as you take more, so the deeper headspace you find can be fun; but often times little to nothing is learned or retained because of the impaired cognitive function.
I honestly don't see how people compare it to psyches in terms of learning and figuring shit out from it. I get non of that, it does give me that super strong mindfuck though. I just love the confused mindfuck feeling it gives me. I was once fully convinced that I had died and was completely alone on the earth and it was the the afterlife, it was one of the coolest experiences I've ever had.
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volcomstoner said: MXE is definitely more habit forming for me, I'm sure most people will disagree but meth just wasn't nearly as addictive to me as it is for most people. When I get a gram of MXE I'll dose every day taking 1-2 days off here and there until it's gone. I've had a quarter gram of meth in my posession for the past few months and haven't even put much thought into dosing it at all.
I also get a slight opiate feeling with MXE that I think is what I crave the most about it. After taking a break for a while and doing a line the first thing I notice is that nice warm feeling it gives me.
That bolded part is basically how I go through my ketamine. If I get more I'm gonna have to learn to take that one a little more slowly. I'm sure for some MXE can be habit forming I just wanted to say I think it's overall less addicting than things like meth or heroin. Meth would take the cake for me but that's mostly because I just want to keep binging out of necessity if I've already been awake for 24 hours.
I can see that MXE can be habit forming for some though. It's my favorite research chemical. I put it next to K with how much I like it, although they are both very different and I use them now under different circumstances. Obviously anyone digging into a new substance should exercise caution
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Re: MXE Legality [Re: extreme]
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Yeah I think in general meth is obviously going to be more addicting than MXE. I'd really love to try ketamine sometime, I'm sure I'd love it. Really liking this whole dissociative class of drugs, would really like to try PCP as well.
I didn't know about that emergency schedule though surprised I never heard about it. Really fucking sucks the DEA can just ban chemicals like that without any say from the public or actual lawmakers. Not like it really matters though since MXE is already illegal in MN.
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mxe is a ketamine derivitative and also of 3-meo-pcp so chances they could call it an analogue of pcp. but yes ordinarily direct analogues of ketamine wouldnt be under the analogue act and perfectally legal.
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I don't think that's what being an analog means.
Its a ketamine derivative, its structurally similar to PCE and 3-meo-pcp.
For buying and personal consumption you're fine. Selling you'd be a lot more likely to run into trouble.
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themusicofzann said: MXE is currently EMERGENCY SCHEDULED by the DEA making it SCHEDULE 1 right now. it may be rescheduled but for the year it is schedule 1.
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themusicofzann said: MXE is currently EMERGENCY SCHEDULED by the DEA making it SCHEDULE 1 right now. it may be rescheduled but for the year it is schedule 1.
That's only for Florida.
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themusicofzann said: MXE is currently EMERGENCY SCHEDULED by the DEA making it SCHEDULE 1 right now. it may be rescheduled but for the year it is schedule 1.
That's only for Florida.
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i had really grate trips with it, heal my deppresion, amazing .. now i am looking for a good quality vendor and i can't really find one, so.. please who had ordedered suggest me. Thanks
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Sheekle.
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Re: MXE Legality [Re: Sheekle]
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mxe and similar compounds are not to be under estimated thats forsure, someone i used to supply mxe too got really addicted to it.
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legal as fuck,
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It's illegal in my state. Sure as fuck not gonna stop me.
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MXE has more or less officially been designated an analog of ketamine in DEA documents....
But still more or less legal unless you're a major dealer 
Of course if you have any cops will be so confused you'll probably get arrested and possibly convicted anyway if caught with it.
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Re: MXE Legality [Re: twighead]
#18844388 - 09/15/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone outside of U.S. have experience ordering MXE from abroad?
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Re: MXE Legality [Re: Cavemen]
#18844471 - 09/15/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes I have made all my orders from europe with nothing but success.
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i've known of one guy who went overboard with mxe, but he's really unstable to begin with. i don't understand daily use of this or any dissociative, but when i take dissociatives i tend to go for the hole.
i ordered a good sized pile of mxe about three years ago. for about three or four months i was holing once a week. i found combining it with a psychedelic to be the most interesting. mdma doesn't pair well with mxe ime (whereas mdma pairs brilliantly with ketamine).
while i don't feel i was using mxe in any sort of abusive or unsafe way, a few things did lead me to discontinue regularly using. first and foremost, i wasn't able to go to sleep for 24 hours after my experiences. in my 20's, losing a day or two of sleep a week wasn't a big deal. now, not so much. i was also going through a particularly difficult time in my life, and my hole experiences with mxe started featuring these visions where i thought i was dying. the experiences weren't terrifying at all. in fact they were euphoric as in "fuck yes, i'm finally dying!" i figured out that if death was subconsciously my most desired state then maybe i should focus on making my here-and-now better rather than getting high.
i've taken mxe once fairly recently (in the past few months). it wasn't a bad time by any means, but i just don't like it. this last time i took it by itself.
all that being said, i would definitely recommend trying mxe at least once, especially with a psychedelic. combined with 2ci, for me, the room would just change all around me. it's the closest thing to living in a dream. also, while music and psychedelics go together magically, music and mxe do not. generally, i don't want to watch anything aside from eye candy (to music) when i'm tripping. but with mxe, movies seem to work well. i'd tend to go with a playlist of my trippier animes.
be safe. mxe is not a drug for public. and always measure your doses with a milligram scale. for me, since i like to hole, i found redosing unnecessary.
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volcomstoner said: It's illegal in my state. Sure as fuck not gonna stop me.
newb to this board, just question to you sir, or anybody else that would have some insight on this. I live in FL and had success ordering MXE domestically(once, two weeks ago), but am curious if anybody knows the actual penalty for ordering this emergency scheduled substance, do you just get a seizure letter from customs, or the equivalent to customs on state level? Especially when it comes to ordering out of the country assuming that the vendors would actually ship to FL, have had a couple that say they would but dont want to put in CC info/ get money order just to have them say "cant ship that to your state", also obviously am concerned with (mostly this) some sort of prosecution or fine...any cases of people being prosecuted for import of a research chem? Would it be considered like any other schedule 1 substance? I know the poster I quoted doesn't live in FL, curious if you have any first hand knowledge though at least when it comes to ordering it to your home state. Thanks allot for your time everybody, hopefully this is a relevant enough question, my apologies if i missed a post that answered my questions... and sorry for the terrible syntax and grammar in the above post!
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So far I haven't had trouble keeping my MXE use to weekends only and micro doses only.
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