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My first successful mono (Pink boofalo)
    #18817524 - 09/09/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So my 2nd mono attempt has been a success and so far im thinking i may have some pretty awesome genetics.  Got some fatties growing here!

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My question though is, is the size and shape of these genetic?  or could it be my environment?  Also, what is with my pinset?  not enough evap off the surface of the substrate?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18817622 - 09/09/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nice! Your questions have a lot of possible answers. My guess is that if anything is not optimal, it likely would have to do with how tightly stuffed the polyfil is on the bottom holes and how lightly it is stuffed on the top holes. Then there's also light and the moisture content of the substrate itself.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18817641 - 09/09/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice! Your questions have a lot of possible answers. My guess is that if anything is not optimal, it likely would have to do with how tightly stuffed the polyfil is on the bottom holes and how lightly it is stuffed on the top holes. Then there's also light and the moisture content of the substrate itself.



I just know there is quite a bit of moisture on the surface of the substrate itself, so i thought i could have not enough evap or something.  but the "rings" around my stuffed holes look right.  I loosened up the top holes and the pinset seemed to accelerate, so i think i just need to give it another day or two for the majority of them.

Just for the record, my mono was made in a 1:1 ratio of spawn to verm/coir, no gypsum.  Slipped my mind and forgot to add it before pasteurization lol.  7qts of each.  And I have 15 jars of pb at almost 100%.  2 jars were contaminated though.  My master jar for PE6, and a PB transfer jar.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18817710 - 09/09/13 02:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those look remarkably similar to my pink buffalo (i've grown a few dozen tubs of em over the past few months).

Everything looks great. fruits look health. If it's MS then you're facing problems with genetics rather than environment it seems.

Do you have a light set up?

Edit- just saw it. You need to remove one of the top holes' poly. Make the other side very  loose, and the bottom ones tight. It makes for the perfect environment for a tub :thumbup:


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Blake_Shroom]
    #18818571 - 09/09/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well that's good to hear lol.  Do I need to remove tthe poly completely?  Or just restuff to be very loose?  Because I have already done that.  I followed Frank's advice and could probably blow the poly out of the top holes just with lung pressure lol.  Bottom holes are tight.  Well, at least to me they are.  I think the tub is doing better since I changed that two days ago, even more pins this morning.  And that one monster has opened and ready to harvest :3.  I'm guessing its gonna be around 2g dry.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18818600 - 09/09/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well if they're that loose, then you're probably fine. Do you work with agar? I would suggest taking a clone and then working with that culture.

It will vastly improve your yield :thumbup:

I'd take 2 or 3 samples. Take the big ones in clusters. Then you can test each and find out which fruits the best


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Blake_Shroom]
    #18818972 - 09/09/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those fruits look great!  Nice and fat. 
We're pink buffalo mono brothers, got a tub going of those myself but 1st flush was 50 or so small fruits and lots of 1.5" aborts. 
A 2g dry fruit! :wowz:
Did you innoc from multispore and what grain did you use for your spawn?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: druranium]
    #18819167 - 09/09/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Those fruits look great!  Nice and fat. 
We're pink buffalo mono brothers, got a tub going of those myself but 1st flush was 50 or so small fruits and lots of 1.5" aborts. 
A 2g dry fruit! :wowz:
Did you innoc from multispore and what grain did you use for your spawn?




Im glad they are looking good!  Im hoping to not have any aborts!  And its looking to be more like a 3-3.5g dry.  it weighed out at 36.4g fresh.  One BEAST of a shroomie.  well, for me at least.  i have seen some as big as peoples forearms here.  but that is isolates and stuff.



I do plan on doing agar/isolating/cloning eventually, but i dont really have the money and my access to a pressure cooker is limited.  One day :smile:

My spawn for this tub is actually about 50% red wheat berries and 50% popcorn!  All mixed into 50/50 coir verm.  They were all g2g from a single master jar inoculated with a multispore.  I plan on making a tek for my wheat berries.  I cant find rye berries around here, but they are more or less the same thing.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18821655 - 09/10/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So another was ready to come out into the dry world, and its even bigger!  Weighed out at 39.88g wet!  This tub continues to amaze me! 

Moar Pr0n:


One thing i have seemed to notice, is that with the addition of popcorn to the substrate, it seems to be a lot more resillient to pulling and tugging.  i was able to pull the shroomy far enough so i could cut as little as possible. 

That was the only one with a broken veil atm, but looks to be quite the harvest in the morning!


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18826315 - 09/11/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Morning 9/10/13

~200g wet.





Evening 9/10/13.  Had my first major harvest!  Any guesses on weight?  This was about half of what is in the tub.  The rest will be ready to harvest tomorrow. 



Im currently printing 4 caps.  one of the suckers is like 3-4 inches in diameter!


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18826360 - 09/11/13 02:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude well done!  Nice fucking yield.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: MagicJames]
    #18826389 - 09/11/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In that second picture you can let those left few shrooms go a little longer until the veil breaks.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18826404 - 09/11/13 03:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha thanks!  And that's not even the whole tub!  I probably will have about that same amount ready to be harvested tomorrow.  The pins came in waves lol.  I hope this mono wasn't a one flush wonder, if not, its one hell of a first flush on my first mono. 

And yeah I know I could have let them go longer, but they were attached to other shroomies or I pushed them over with my clumsy ass hands trying to harvest the ones that were done.

My dehydrator has been running for like 4 days straight lol, and just keeps getting more added to it lol.  That other fatass dried to around 3.75g.  It's at 3.9 right now and is crispy, but may finalize to about 3.75. 

On another note, I need a way to pasturize about 10qts of coir/verm.  I can't use jars because I don't really have a pot for it atm.  I've heard RR comment about gallon bags in an insulated cooler with boiling water method.  Is this reliable?  Any good teks?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18826415 - 09/11/13 03:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why don't you have a pot?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18827037 - 09/11/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lol what I mean is that I don't have a pot big enough to do more then 5 quarts at a time using the jar method.  I mean I suppose I can do two batches or something, but don't I have to let the jars cool in the pot/cooker?  Or can they cool in open air?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18827937 - 09/11/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No, they should be cooling rapidly after the pasteurization process is complete.  That is part of proper pasteurization.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18828089 - 09/11/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Following this thread for sure.
Not bad at all dude. Some big boys you got alright!
Keep it going! :thumbup:


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18828141 - 09/11/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nice homie! I read your reply to my earlier post. I have talked to trusted cultivators about signs of having a properly dialed in mono-tub and I was told that at all times there should be little droplets of water all over your substrate, kind of like dew.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18828281 - 09/11/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice homie! I read your reply to my earlier post. I have talked to trusted cultivators about signs of having a properly dialed in mono-tub and I was told that at all times there should be little droplets of water all over your substrate, kind of like dew.




Definitely good to know!
Thanks for sharing. :stoned:


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18828369 - 09/11/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice homie! I read your reply to my earlier post. I have talked to trusted cultivators about signs of having a properly dialed in mono-tub and I was told that at all times there should be little droplets of water all over your substrate, kind of like dew.




Definitely good to know!
Thanks for sharing. :stoned:




Why do you keep posting stuff like this?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18828381 - 09/11/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice homie! I read your reply to my earlier post. I have talked to trusted cultivators about signs of having a properly dialed in mono-tub and I was told that at all times there should be little droplets of water all over your substrate, kind of like dew.




Definitely good to know!
Thanks for sharing. :stoned:




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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18828393 - 09/11/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice homie! I read your reply to my earlier post. I have talked to trusted cultivators about signs of having a properly dialed in mono-tub and I was told that at all times there should be little droplets of water all over your substrate, kind of like dew.




Definitely good to know!
Thanks for sharing. :stoned:




Why do you keep posting stuff like this?




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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18828411 - 09/11/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Seriously though, you've done nothing but post useless shit in multiple threads, I'm starting to think you're a puppet.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18828432 - 09/11/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Seriously though, you've done nothing but post useless shit in multiple threads, I'm starting to think you're a puppet.





Why do you think your so big?
Your 400 Posts and 7 ratings and you think your big man.
Everyone's on their learning stages.
I'm appreciating good advice and asking questions and answering fellow Shroomery members questions if you'd took the time to go through my posts.
I'm really open minded & here to learn and have fun.For you to be running me down like this is ridiculous.
And i'm here to contribute to as much as possible.
Your insane to presume something so false

Lighten up a little my man.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18828479 - 09/11/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice homie! I read your reply to my earlier post. I have talked to trusted cultivators about signs of having a properly dialed in mono-tub and I was told that at all times there should be little droplets of water all over your substrate, kind of like dew.




Definitely good to know!
Thanks for sharing. :stoned:




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You guys think post count gets you big and bad?
I'm here to communicate with other people & to start conversations and learn. Not to keep my mouth shut and sit in a corner and only speak when spoken too.
Thought this is a forum of open minded people that think beyond these silly, vain thoughts..
I've said what I've felt.
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18828494 - 09/11/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow! Learn a little forum etiquette my friend! You accusing mush and I of being egotistical isn't going to get you anywhere around here


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    #18828499 - 09/11/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow! Learn a little forum etiquette my friend! You accusing mush and I of being egotistical isn't going to get you anywhere around here




You guys presented yourself to me in that manner.
The respect is mutual.
I aint out to get no one man.
And my comments are mainly towards mush.
His ass needs to get an avatar also.
Theirs MY contribution.. you yellow-belly.

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    #18828529 - 09/11/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mush how dare you post without an avatar! You should be tarred and feathered for that! :rofl:


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    #18828566 - 09/11/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a good one for him...



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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18828756 - 09/11/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why is everyone so egotistical now a days? Can't we all just chill out, everyone is a noob somehow. Just because you can grow cubes doesn't make you king of mycology. A retard without an arm could do it.


But anyway, good fucking job bro:mushroom2:! That's really impressive for your second grow :thumbup:, if I  were you I would run and buy some agar and start cloning, while prints are fun, they generally are a pain in the ass to use for inoculation unless you have a flowhood or SAB, and even with a SAB it can suck to make a good syringe. And if you use spore to agar, you'll have to transfer at least 3-5 times,but tissue to agar you could get it done in say 2-3 transfers.

I am guessing anywhere from 17-22 grams dry if it was 200 grams wet for the first flush, a friend of mine once had a tub that was 867 grams wet on the first flush. On multipsore too! He lost the big print he had of a cap that was 6 in :sad:

And I would love to know how you do wheat berries, especially if its soft red winter wheat.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: nn-IlliniSpiralDMT]
    #18828801 - 09/11/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can either soak, or soak and simmer just like with rye with soft wheat.  I let my wheat soak overnight then a 5 minute quick boil without any problems, but sometimes they're completely hydrated after the soak.


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    #18828968 - 09/11/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks! Hey OP did your winter wheat get really soft? I literally could eat it if I wanted to, tasted pretty good.:laugh:


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: nn-IlliniSpiralDMT]
    #18829603 - 09/11/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Why is everyone so egotistical now a days? Can't we all just chill out, everyone is a noob somehow. Just because you can grow cubes doesn't make you king of mycology. A retard without an arm could do it.


But anyway, good fucking job bro:mushroom2:! That's really impressive for your second grow :thumbup:, if I  were you I would run and buy some agar and start cloning, while prints are fun, they generally are a pain in the ass to use for inoculation unless you have a flowhood or SAB, and even with a SAB it can suck to make a good syringe. And if you use spore to agar, you'll have to transfer at least 3-5 times,but tissue to agar you could get it done in say 2-3 transfers.

I am guessing anywhere from 17-22 grams dry if it was 200 grams wet for the first flush, a friend of mine once had a tub that was 867 grams wet on the first flush. On multipsore too! He lost the big print he had of a cap that was 6 in :sad:

And I would love to know how you do wheat berries, especially if its soft red winter wheat.




The problem i am in right now, is im jobless and in debt, so i dont have much spare money.  Not to mention im gonna have to drop a grand on a new apartment because my lease is up and they are gonna do some work on this one, so money is extremely tight at the moment.  200g wet was just that one part of my harvest.  im thinking ill have somewhere around 3-4 oz dry.  from my first flush lol.

When i do my next set of jars ill do a write up as to how i do it and how i make my jar lids and stuff.  Still pretty new to this, but i am the son of an engineer, so im just innovative like that lol.

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Thanks! Hey OP did your winter wheat get really soft? I literally could eat it if I wanted to, tasted pretty good.:laugh:




Yeah it gets pretty soft.  In my last set of jars, i had like 2 cups or so of the cooked grain left over, so i made some bread with it.  Like, added the grains to bread dough and baked it.  now THAT stuff was tasty.  Cinnimon-oat-banana-wheat berry bread I THINK SO!

Thanks for all the comments guys! 

Just a few more pics before i go!

Before Harvest 9/11/13:

After Harvest 9/11/13, Few stragglers that ill get tonight:

"Fruits" of my labor, on a tub lid:

Got so much from this single harvest, I had to use two of my dehydrator trays!!  These suckers are like 16"x16" or bigger.

Dried fruits that were harvested 9/10/13.  And that is with the plastic container zeroed out.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18835533 - 09/13/13 03:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Final, total weigh in for my first flush: 144.04 grams!!!  or 5.14 OZ!!  OH MY GOD!  HNNNNNNGGGGGG

So, what do you guys thing?  successful first flush or what?





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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18835539 - 09/13/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure those are completely dry?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18836496 - 09/13/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you sure those are completely dry?




yeah im sure.  they sat in a dehydrator set to the 155 degree setting for at least 24 hours straight.  and then into a desiccant chamber.  They basically shatter when i squeeze on them.  All those fatties weigh upwards of 3g each.  Does something not look dry?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18836616 - 09/13/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't look cracker dry to me either mush


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18837040 - 09/13/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you sure those are completely dry?




yeah im sure.  they sat in a dehydrator set to the 155 degree setting for at least 24 hours straight.  and then into a desiccant chamber.  They basically shatter when i squeeze on them.  All those fatties weigh upwards of 3g each.  Does something not look dry?




They just don't necessarily look completely dry to me, but there is no way to tell just by the pictures of course.  I'd expect a bit more of a shriveled look but your description sounds like you've got them nice and dry.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18837189 - 09/13/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well those were my monster shrooms, and i have a pretty damn good dehydrator.  i mean they have no give to them whatsoever.  Ill check again to be sure, but they could just be more dense shrooms that dont shrivle as much?  i have no idea  :takingnotes:


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18837871 - 09/13/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah you can't tell by looking at them. We were just speculating from observation.. If you had them in a 155 degree dehydrator for 24 hours then they were dry. Well as long as you don't live in a sauna :lol:

Btw congrats on the grow. Those are some really nice looking fruits my man! 5 shrooms coming at ya!


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18852240 - 09/17/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Looks great man, nice work.  Monos are pretty fun, huh?  Those are some monsters you grew...:goat:

Hey so how are you approaching your second flush?  Are you gonna dunk it?

The pinset on mine was so uneven that I don't know if I'm on the first, second, or third flush.  But I know I'm ready to dunk it, harvested everything and still looking and smelling good.  Not sure if I should get rid of the liner when I dunk?  Let me know what you think...:pirate:


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: druranium]
    #18858975 - 09/18/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks great man, nice work.  Monos are pretty fun, huh?  Those are some monsters you grew...:goat:

Hey so how are you approaching your second flush?  Are you gonna dunk it?

The pinset on mine was so uneven that I don't know if I'm on the first, second, or third flush.  But I know I'm ready to dunk it, harvested everything and still looking and smelling good.  Not sure if I should get rid of the liner when I dunk?  Let me know what you think...:pirate:





Yeah they are!  im gonna be pasturizing substrate and making 2 more today!  I started to get pinset for my second flush, like 2 days after i harvested!  Now the bottom of my tub is covered in like 1.5cm pins!  much more even pinset this time.  So no, i will not dunk.

And from everything i have read, im thinking you keep the liner in, but we need a more experienced grower to come in and confirm that.  Use a couple PVC tubes in your bottom holes to keep the substrate from falling out, and just put the tub on its side to drain it fully.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18865557 - 09/19/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do these jars look healthy?  sorry about the low quality pics, getting a better phone here soon hopefully.  The one on the right looked a little fuzzy to me, but they dont smell off.  Maybe this strain is just not very ryzomorphic?  they are 2nd (left) and 3rd (right) generation transfer jars.



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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18865837 - 09/20/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you don't have a pot, i dunno that you'd want to go buy a Roaster, but here's the way i'm going with. 

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tbagtag said:
I wrote this some months back it started getting some attention recently.  I have edited about 70% of the original post that was here.  This will cover making your substrate to field capacity using coir and pasteurization of the substrate.  Please ask away if you have any questions.

Why Is It Good?:

Its an electric roaster oven that has a temperature control.  It's only $20 and can be used anywhere you have an electrical outlet.  You don't have to worry about overheating your substrate.  I've done 10 tubs now using this method and haven't lost 1 yet.

The Bad:

It is a lot slower than the stove top.  On the stove it takes me about an hour for it to hit 160 in the center.  In the roaster it takes 2-3 hours for it to get to the temperature.

Things you need:

Bulk Sub Prep Tek Part 1: Hydration

Supplies needed:
2 Bricks Coco Coir (if bought at a grow shop make sure it wasnt treated with trich.  The easiest one to get is Eco Earth from and major pet store.  Works great for newbies)
Vermiculite preferable medium (sometimes referred to as grade 2), fine will also work.
Gypsum (pellets are a-ok)
2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water
A bucket with a tight fitting lid



This recipe will make more than enough substrate for 2 30ish qt mini monos or 1 large mono over 66qt.  When we are done I will give you tips for the leftovers.

Scale as needed

Step 1:
Take 6 qts vermiculite and put in the bucket



2 cups gypsum - put it in the bucket



Should look like this



With your hand mix it as well as you can while its dry.  This prevents gypsum clumps; especially with pelletized gypsum.  Should look like below when done.




Now add 2 bricks of Eco Earth, if using bulk coir each brick of Eco Earth weighs 1# 7oz.  So you will need 2# 14oz of bulk coir (yes i weighed all 3 bricks to find out)

Put this in the bucket.



Now pour 2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water in the bucket.  Put the lid on it and set your timer for 60 minutes.



If you do not wait the full 60 minutes you will get leprosy, shits toxic till at field capacity.  Well not really, just dont fuck with it for a full 60 minutes.

See you again in over an hour where we mix, test for field capacity and bag our sub for pasteurization.

Making Substrate Pt 2: Mixing and Pasteurization

Supplies needed:

Gloves
Oven Roaster
Gallon Ziploc Baggies
Paper Towel
Alcohol
Meat Thermometer

So this is what you're going to be greeted with when you take the lid off of your bucket.



The gloves are optional as this is messy as fuck.  The gloves just help with the cleanup and prevents any skin flakes or hair from your palms from getting in the mix.

We need to make sure we mix up the coir, verm and gypsum till it is even and there are no clumps of coir or pockets of verm.

One tip I give is pull from the bottom and build up along the side of the bucket and push down.  Keep fluffing and repeating, I usually spend 30-60 minutes mixing my sub to get it nice.  Take the time to do this right.  After it is all mixed together put the lid back on the bucket and wait 30 minutes.



This is how it should look all the way through:




This extra 30 minutes helps with the redistribution of water after the mix.

After 30 minutes test for field capacity.  When you pick up a clump no water should come out, when you squeeze you should have anywhere from a few drops to a small trickle.  If it is too much water you can add another half quart of verm - but if you follow my instructions above, mix properly and wait that extra 30 minutes you will be good.

Each bag can hold up to 4qts of substrate, since we are only working with 22 qts of substrate we are going to put slightly less than that in each bag.  Just try to make the bags as even as possible.  Do not worry if there is coir in the zipper area, when we use the bags when can use sterile scissors to cut below the zipper area.



Zip up the bags (slide style bags will not work for this. 

Assemble your roaster oven so it looks like below.  Put your bags in before the water.  Let out any excess air from the bags and re-zip. 



In the middle bag open the top slightly to put your meat thermometer in and zip the bag shut as best as possible.



Fill the roaster with water halfway up the bags and put the lid on.




Plug in your roaster and set the temperature to 160 degrees.  Check your meat thermometer after 2 hours, if you are not at 160 degrees on your thermometer check back in an hour and each hour after that (usually 4 hours to hit 160 degrees).  Once the center has hit 160 unplug the roaster (mine doesnt have an on/off), leave the lid on for 1 hour and then promptly remove the substrate to cool after that hour.

You just now pasteurized 22qts of substrate in 4 hours without having to stand over the stove.






http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18313549/page/1


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: cynical bastad]
    #18867847 - 09/20/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

cynical bastad said:
If you don't have a pot, i dunno that you'd want to go buy a Roaster, but here's the way i'm going with. 

Quote:

tbagtag said:
I wrote this some months back it started getting some attention recently.  I have edited about 70% of the original post that was here.  This will cover making your substrate to field capacity using coir and pasteurization of the substrate.  Please ask away if you have any questions.

Why Is It Good?:

Its an electric roaster oven that has a temperature control.  It's only $20 and can be used anywhere you have an electrical outlet.  You don't have to worry about overheating your substrate.  I've done 10 tubs now using this method and haven't lost 1 yet.

The Bad:

It is a lot slower than the stove top.  On the stove it takes me about an hour for it to hit 160 in the center.  In the roaster it takes 2-3 hours for it to get to the temperature.

Things you need:

Bulk Sub Prep Tek Part 1: Hydration

Supplies needed:
2 Bricks Coco Coir (if bought at a grow shop make sure it wasnt treated with trich.  The easiest one to get is Eco Earth from and major pet store.  Works great for newbies)
Vermiculite preferable medium (sometimes referred to as grade 2), fine will also work.
Gypsum (pellets are a-ok)
2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water
A bucket with a tight fitting lid



This recipe will make more than enough substrate for 2 30ish qt mini monos or 1 large mono over 66qt.  When we are done I will give you tips for the leftovers.

Scale as needed

Step 1:
Take 6 qts vermiculite and put in the bucket



2 cups gypsum - put it in the bucket



Should look like this



With your hand mix it as well as you can while its dry.  This prevents gypsum clumps; especially with pelletized gypsum.  Should look like below when done.




Now add 2 bricks of Eco Earth, if using bulk coir each brick of Eco Earth weighs 1# 7oz.  So you will need 2# 14oz of bulk coir (yes i weighed all 3 bricks to find out)

Put this in the bucket.



Now pour 2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water in the bucket.  Put the lid on it and set your timer for 60 minutes.



If you do not wait the full 60 minutes you will get leprosy, shits toxic till at field capacity.  Well not really, just dont fuck with it for a full 60 minutes.

See you again in over an hour where we mix, test for field capacity and bag our sub for pasteurization.

Making Substrate Pt 2: Mixing and Pasteurization

Supplies needed:

Gloves
Oven Roaster
Gallon Ziploc Baggies
Paper Towel
Alcohol
Meat Thermometer

So this is what you're going to be greeted with when you take the lid off of your bucket.



The gloves are optional as this is messy as fuck.  The gloves just help with the cleanup and prevents any skin flakes or hair from your palms from getting in the mix.

We need to make sure we mix up the coir, verm and gypsum till it is even and there are no clumps of coir or pockets of verm.

One tip I give is pull from the bottom and build up along the side of the bucket and push down.  Keep fluffing and repeating, I usually spend 30-60 minutes mixing my sub to get it nice.  Take the time to do this right.  After it is all mixed together put the lid back on the bucket and wait 30 minutes.



This is how it should look all the way through:




This extra 30 minutes helps with the redistribution of water after the mix.

After 30 minutes test for field capacity.  When you pick up a clump no water should come out, when you squeeze you should have anywhere from a few drops to a small trickle.  If it is too much water you can add another half quart of verm - but if you follow my instructions above, mix properly and wait that extra 30 minutes you will be good.

Each bag can hold up to 4qts of substrate, since we are only working with 22 qts of substrate we are going to put slightly less than that in each bag.  Just try to make the bags as even as possible.  Do not worry if there is coir in the zipper area, when we use the bags when can use sterile scissors to cut below the zipper area.



Zip up the bags (slide style bags will not work for this. 

Assemble your roaster oven so it looks like below.  Put your bags in before the water.  Let out any excess air from the bags and re-zip. 



In the middle bag open the top slightly to put your meat thermometer in and zip the bag shut as best as possible.



Fill the roaster with water halfway up the bags and put the lid on.




Plug in your roaster and set the temperature to 160 degrees.  Check your meat thermometer after 2 hours, if you are not at 160 degrees on your thermometer check back in an hour and each hour after that (usually 4 hours to hit 160 degrees).  Once the center has hit 160 unplug the roaster (mine doesnt have an on/off), leave the lid on for 1 hour and then promptly remove the substrate to cool after that hour.

You just now pasteurized 22qts of substrate in 4 hours without having to stand over the stove.






http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18313549/page/1




heh, thats not a bad idea.  I was actually looking at roasters at goodwill the other day.  like 10-12 for a pretty big one.  they were old though and i didnt want to trust them.  ill just wait till a decent one comes in.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18874550 - 09/22/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just a few updates on my second flush!  came in much more evenly this time.  My question, the "cake" in my mono has shrunk considerably.  and there was a bit of water in the bottom of the tub.  is this bad?  should i soak my tub after this flush?



These were two of the first fruits that i had to harvest.  pretty O_O


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18874552 - 09/22/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

More FAE.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18878744 - 09/23/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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More FAE.




loosen top puffs?  or could the bottom ones be too tight?


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18878791 - 09/23/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nice grow man update us with a dry weight from the 2nd flush. What size tub is that?

Edit: loosen top


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: bulkgrownoob]
    #18879113 - 09/23/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice grow man update us with a dry weight from the 2nd flush. What size tub is that?

Edit: loosen top




its a 66 qt.  2nd flush looked to be about 92.53g.  Like 3.3oz.  I think my tub needs a soak, and my holes needa open up a bit more.  but not bad i suppose.


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
    #18879826 - 09/23/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's awesome. About 8.5 oz by end of 2nd flush on your first good mono. You used 7 quarts bulk and 7 quarts spawn? I was a bit confused by that post wasn't sure if you meant 7 quarts coco and 7 quarts verm and then spawn too


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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: bulkgrownoob]
    #18881020 - 09/23/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That's awesome. About 8.5 oz by end of 2nd flush on your first good mono. You used 7 quarts bulk and 7 quarts spawn? I was a bit confused by that post wasn't sure if you meant 7 quarts coco and 7 quarts verm and then spawn too




Yes, it was 7 and 7 total.  And my coir comes in 5 kilo bricks, so my coir verm mix isnt all that accurate lol.  Can't really tell you the exact ratio, but it worked!  And yeah, I suppose that's not bad for my first real bulk grow.  5pf cakes straight into bulk.  I like steep learning curves :P.


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