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Stromrider
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
#18837871 - 09/13/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah you can't tell by looking at them. We were just speculating from observation.. If you had them in a 155 degree dehydrator for 24 hours then they were dry. Well as long as you don't live in a sauna 
Btw congrats on the grow. Those are some really nice looking fruits my man! 5 shrooms coming at ya!
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druranium
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Stromrider]
#18852240 - 09/17/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks great man, nice work. Monos are pretty fun, huh? Those are some monsters you grew...
Hey so how are you approaching your second flush? Are you gonna dunk it?
The pinset on mine was so uneven that I don't know if I'm on the first, second, or third flush. But I know I'm ready to dunk it, harvested everything and still looking and smelling good. Not sure if I should get rid of the liner when I dunk? Let me know what you think...
Edited by druranium (09/17/13 03:24 AM)
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kobalt
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: druranium]
#18858975 - 09/18/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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druranium said: Looks great man, nice work. Monos are pretty fun, huh? Those are some monsters you grew...
Hey so how are you approaching your second flush? Are you gonna dunk it?
The pinset on mine was so uneven that I don't know if I'm on the first, second, or third flush. But I know I'm ready to dunk it, harvested everything and still looking and smelling good. Not sure if I should get rid of the liner when I dunk? Let me know what you think...
Yeah they are! im gonna be pasturizing substrate and making 2 more today! I started to get pinset for my second flush, like 2 days after i harvested! Now the bottom of my tub is covered in like 1.5cm pins! much more even pinset this time. So no, i will not dunk.
And from everything i have read, im thinking you keep the liner in, but we need a more experienced grower to come in and confirm that. Use a couple PVC tubes in your bottom holes to keep the substrate from falling out, and just put the tub on its side to drain it fully.
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kobalt
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
#18865557 - 09/19/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do these jars look healthy? sorry about the low quality pics, getting a better phone here soon hopefully. The one on the right looked a little fuzzy to me, but they dont smell off. Maybe this strain is just not very ryzomorphic? they are 2nd (left) and 3rd (right) generation transfer jars.
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cynical bastad
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
#18865837 - 09/20/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you don't have a pot, i dunno that you'd want to go buy a Roaster, but here's the way i'm going with.
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tbagtag said: I wrote this some months back it started getting some attention recently. I have edited about 70% of the original post that was here. This will cover making your substrate to field capacity using coir and pasteurization of the substrate. Please ask away if you have any questions.
Why Is It Good?:
Its an electric roaster oven that has a temperature control. It's only $20 and can be used anywhere you have an electrical outlet. You don't have to worry about overheating your substrate. I've done 10 tubs now using this method and haven't lost 1 yet.
The Bad:
It is a lot slower than the stove top. On the stove it takes me about an hour for it to hit 160 in the center. In the roaster it takes 2-3 hours for it to get to the temperature.
Things you need:
Bulk Sub Prep Tek Part 1: Hydration
Supplies needed: 2 Bricks Coco Coir (if bought at a grow shop make sure it wasnt treated with trich. The easiest one to get is Eco Earth from and major pet store. Works great for newbies) Vermiculite preferable medium (sometimes referred to as grade 2), fine will also work. Gypsum (pellets are a-ok) 2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water A bucket with a tight fitting lid

This recipe will make more than enough substrate for 2 30ish qt mini monos or 1 large mono over 66qt. When we are done I will give you tips for the leftovers.
Scale as needed
Step 1: Take 6 qts vermiculite and put in the bucket

2 cups gypsum - put it in the bucket

Should look like this

With your hand mix it as well as you can while its dry. This prevents gypsum clumps; especially with pelletized gypsum. Should look like below when done.

Now add 2 bricks of Eco Earth, if using bulk coir each brick of Eco Earth weighs 1# 7oz. So you will need 2# 14oz of bulk coir (yes i weighed all 3 bricks to find out)
Put this in the bucket.

Now pour 2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water in the bucket. Put the lid on it and set your timer for 60 minutes.

If you do not wait the full 60 minutes you will get leprosy, shits toxic till at field capacity. Well not really, just dont fuck with it for a full 60 minutes.
See you again in over an hour where we mix, test for field capacity and bag our sub for pasteurization.
Making Substrate Pt 2: Mixing and Pasteurization
Supplies needed:
Gloves Oven Roaster Gallon Ziploc Baggies Paper Towel Alcohol Meat Thermometer
So this is what you're going to be greeted with when you take the lid off of your bucket.

The gloves are optional as this is messy as fuck. The gloves just help with the cleanup and prevents any skin flakes or hair from your palms from getting in the mix.
We need to make sure we mix up the coir, verm and gypsum till it is even and there are no clumps of coir or pockets of verm.
One tip I give is pull from the bottom and build up along the side of the bucket and push down. Keep fluffing and repeating, I usually spend 30-60 minutes mixing my sub to get it nice. Take the time to do this right. After it is all mixed together put the lid back on the bucket and wait 30 minutes.

This is how it should look all the way through:

This extra 30 minutes helps with the redistribution of water after the mix.
After 30 minutes test for field capacity. When you pick up a clump no water should come out, when you squeeze you should have anywhere from a few drops to a small trickle. If it is too much water you can add another half quart of verm - but if you follow my instructions above, mix properly and wait that extra 30 minutes you will be good.
Each bag can hold up to 4qts of substrate, since we are only working with 22 qts of substrate we are going to put slightly less than that in each bag. Just try to make the bags as even as possible. Do not worry if there is coir in the zipper area, when we use the bags when can use sterile scissors to cut below the zipper area.

Zip up the bags (slide style bags will not work for this.
Assemble your roaster oven so it looks like below. Put your bags in before the water. Let out any excess air from the bags and re-zip.

In the middle bag open the top slightly to put your meat thermometer in and zip the bag shut as best as possible.

Fill the roaster with water halfway up the bags and put the lid on.


Plug in your roaster and set the temperature to 160 degrees. Check your meat thermometer after 2 hours, if you are not at 160 degrees on your thermometer check back in an hour and each hour after that (usually 4 hours to hit 160 degrees). Once the center has hit 160 unplug the roaster (mine doesnt have an on/off), leave the lid on for 1 hour and then promptly remove the substrate to cool after that hour.
You just now pasteurized 22qts of substrate in 4 hours without having to stand over the stove.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18313549/page/1
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kobalt
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: cynical bastad]
#18867847 - 09/20/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cynical bastad said: If you don't have a pot, i dunno that you'd want to go buy a Roaster, but here's the way i'm going with.
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tbagtag said: I wrote this some months back it started getting some attention recently. I have edited about 70% of the original post that was here. This will cover making your substrate to field capacity using coir and pasteurization of the substrate. Please ask away if you have any questions.
Why Is It Good?:
Its an electric roaster oven that has a temperature control. It's only $20 and can be used anywhere you have an electrical outlet. You don't have to worry about overheating your substrate. I've done 10 tubs now using this method and haven't lost 1 yet.
The Bad:
It is a lot slower than the stove top. On the stove it takes me about an hour for it to hit 160 in the center. In the roaster it takes 2-3 hours for it to get to the temperature.
Things you need:
Bulk Sub Prep Tek Part 1: Hydration
Supplies needed: 2 Bricks Coco Coir (if bought at a grow shop make sure it wasnt treated with trich. The easiest one to get is Eco Earth from and major pet store. Works great for newbies) Vermiculite preferable medium (sometimes referred to as grade 2), fine will also work. Gypsum (pellets are a-ok) 2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water A bucket with a tight fitting lid

This recipe will make more than enough substrate for 2 30ish qt mini monos or 1 large mono over 66qt. When we are done I will give you tips for the leftovers.
Scale as needed
Step 1: Take 6 qts vermiculite and put in the bucket

2 cups gypsum - put it in the bucket

Should look like this

With your hand mix it as well as you can while its dry. This prevents gypsum clumps; especially with pelletized gypsum. Should look like below when done.

Now add 2 bricks of Eco Earth, if using bulk coir each brick of Eco Earth weighs 1# 7oz. So you will need 2# 14oz of bulk coir (yes i weighed all 3 bricks to find out)
Put this in the bucket.

Now pour 2 gallons of water and 1 quart jar of water in the bucket. Put the lid on it and set your timer for 60 minutes.

If you do not wait the full 60 minutes you will get leprosy, shits toxic till at field capacity. Well not really, just dont fuck with it for a full 60 minutes.
See you again in over an hour where we mix, test for field capacity and bag our sub for pasteurization.
Making Substrate Pt 2: Mixing and Pasteurization
Supplies needed:
Gloves Oven Roaster Gallon Ziploc Baggies Paper Towel Alcohol Meat Thermometer
So this is what you're going to be greeted with when you take the lid off of your bucket.

The gloves are optional as this is messy as fuck. The gloves just help with the cleanup and prevents any skin flakes or hair from your palms from getting in the mix.
We need to make sure we mix up the coir, verm and gypsum till it is even and there are no clumps of coir or pockets of verm.
One tip I give is pull from the bottom and build up along the side of the bucket and push down. Keep fluffing and repeating, I usually spend 30-60 minutes mixing my sub to get it nice. Take the time to do this right. After it is all mixed together put the lid back on the bucket and wait 30 minutes.

This is how it should look all the way through:

This extra 30 minutes helps with the redistribution of water after the mix.
After 30 minutes test for field capacity. When you pick up a clump no water should come out, when you squeeze you should have anywhere from a few drops to a small trickle. If it is too much water you can add another half quart of verm - but if you follow my instructions above, mix properly and wait that extra 30 minutes you will be good.
Each bag can hold up to 4qts of substrate, since we are only working with 22 qts of substrate we are going to put slightly less than that in each bag. Just try to make the bags as even as possible. Do not worry if there is coir in the zipper area, when we use the bags when can use sterile scissors to cut below the zipper area.

Zip up the bags (slide style bags will not work for this.
Assemble your roaster oven so it looks like below. Put your bags in before the water. Let out any excess air from the bags and re-zip.

In the middle bag open the top slightly to put your meat thermometer in and zip the bag shut as best as possible.

Fill the roaster with water halfway up the bags and put the lid on.


Plug in your roaster and set the temperature to 160 degrees. Check your meat thermometer after 2 hours, if you are not at 160 degrees on your thermometer check back in an hour and each hour after that (usually 4 hours to hit 160 degrees). Once the center has hit 160 unplug the roaster (mine doesnt have an on/off), leave the lid on for 1 hour and then promptly remove the substrate to cool after that hour.
You just now pasteurized 22qts of substrate in 4 hours without having to stand over the stove.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18313549/page/1
heh, thats not a bad idea. I was actually looking at roasters at goodwill the other day. like 10-12 for a pretty big one. they were old though and i didnt want to trust them. ill just wait till a decent one comes in.
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kobalt
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
#18874550 - 09/22/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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just a few updates on my second flush! came in much more evenly this time. My question, the "cake" in my mono has shrunk considerably. and there was a bit of water in the bottom of the tub. is this bad? should i soak my tub after this flush?
These were two of the first fruits that i had to harvest. pretty O_O
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Mush4Brains
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
#18874552 - 09/22/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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More FAE.
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kobalt
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18878744 - 09/23/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: More FAE.
loosen top puffs? or could the bottom ones be too tight?
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bulkgrownoob
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
#18878791 - 09/23/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice grow man update us with a dry weight from the 2nd flush. What size tub is that?
Edit: loosen top
Edited by bulkgrownoob (09/23/13 12:38 AM)
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kobalt
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#18879113 - 09/23/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bulkgrownoob said: Nice grow man update us with a dry weight from the 2nd flush. What size tub is that?
Edit: loosen top
its a 66 qt. 2nd flush looked to be about 92.53g. Like 3.3oz. I think my tub needs a soak, and my holes needa open up a bit more. but not bad i suppose.
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bulkgrownoob
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: kobalt]
#18879826 - 09/23/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's awesome. About 8.5 oz by end of 2nd flush on your first good mono. You used 7 quarts bulk and 7 quarts spawn? I was a bit confused by that post wasn't sure if you meant 7 quarts coco and 7 quarts verm and then spawn too
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Re: My first successful mono (Pink boofalo) [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#18881020 - 09/23/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bulkgrownoob said: That's awesome. About 8.5 oz by end of 2nd flush on your first good mono. You used 7 quarts bulk and 7 quarts spawn? I was a bit confused by that post wasn't sure if you meant 7 quarts coco and 7 quarts verm and then spawn too
Yes, it was 7 and 7 total. And my coir comes in 5 kilo bricks, so my coir verm mix isnt all that accurate lol. Can't really tell you the exact ratio, but it worked! And yeah, I suppose that's not bad for my first real bulk grow. 5pf cakes straight into bulk. I like steep learning curves :P.
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