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earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil???
#18817294 - 09/08/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just had a really weird experience last night tripping balls and came to the conclusion things arnt right in this world and change starts with you not others etc. I also had some questions as to if any others had come to the conclusin tripping is occultic and evil??? Is this true or just a bad trip.
Are psychedelics a gateway to another dimension or spirit world. I felt as if I was being tuned by a vibrational frequency. Very scary experience lol.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18817309 - 09/08/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're being delusional and wasting time
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18817314 - 09/08/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok good
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18817349 - 09/08/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seperate the delusions from the things you can actually apply to this world.
If you felt like maybe you went into another dimension, cool. Maybe you did, or maybe it was just the shrooms.
^ 7 grams of shrooms is a lot
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18817360 - 09/08/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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everything is vibrations, you are all, we are the universe.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18817367 - 09/08/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea it was a lot lol. I ate them over a couple hrs. It freaked me out cause I felt like I was connected to something and it was evil. Really freaked me out. I was watching terrence mckenna talk about everything you need to know about dmt on youtube as well going into the trip.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18817412 - 09/09/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Set and setting~ and what ever your thinking about, what was you mission eating 7? I'd suggest working your way up to that so you know what your getting into.. I frind lower doses are more fun, like when I can still here what people are saying..
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Lucid Toast]
#18817436 - 09/09/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm starting to think maybe its cause I was watching terrance mckenna talk about dmt. I had so many different theories running through my head. The mind loop was intense. I've dosed higher once and had a really intense experience as well but nothing evil or demonic like I felt. I just really didn't like the evil aspect to it, bad vibes
I didn't really have a set goal to eat 7 grams. I kinda just ate a little here and there til I got to where I was good lol.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18817463 - 09/09/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I once took a 400ug lsd experience and closed my eyes while listening to terrance mckenna's speech on fractals and got blasted into oblivion! my whole closed eye visual field was just vibrantly bright colorful fractals all over the place morphing and overlapping each other.. Truly beautiful experience
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Blazer420]
#18817470 - 09/09/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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ill be nice by not adding my opinion..
the afterlife is what your current life makes it..
its math and emotions..
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Blazer420]
#18817481 - 09/09/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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That sounds pretty awesome. I guess I just had some questions because I made a ton of theoretical type connections between history psychedelics and religion and was wondering if it was common and if its possible that it could be real that drugs are a gateway and that other dimensions do exist and that's why the governments banned these drugs because they're actually evil and don't want their secrets out and etc...
Yea I guess that sounds crazy. Ill just take it for what it is the experience and try to enjoy what I've learned and apply it in this life to better nyself. Thanks
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18817488 - 09/09/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: ill be nice by not adding my opinion..
the afterlife is what your current life makes it..
its math and emotions..
I can understand it is wat you make it. I don't understand that last part tho...
So I can choose a fun religion that has a better afterlife to believe in? Either way its all karma right. You get what you give? I don't understand why I had such a bad trip. I'm not a bad person.
Maybe I'm taking things to literal lol. Maybe its just cause of the heavy dose and mckenna. I do feel much better tho now, refreshed. All I wanted out of it was the experience.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18817519 - 09/09/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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write a trip report.. make it as long as you need to.. be as descriptive as possible..
I too had a horrible trip before.. It still haunts me... It always will..
I will give you my honest opinion once I know more..
Without ego death it couldnt of been that bad.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18817540 - 09/09/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd write a report but its so hard for me to remember alot of the things that happen during my experiences. If I do ill post a link to the trip report here.
Really I just had questions cause of the experience and about all the strange connections I had made. I guess depending on how bad I want answers and if I dwell on it will determine if I can even put together a report worth trying to decypher everything I had experienced lol
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18817543 - 09/09/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Browsing McKenna on YT surely didn't help your cause, because your setting is all wrong before you were even getting into it. Sure, McKenna will help tilt your world view.. but so will absolute darkness, and at least those revelations will be your own.
In front of your PC isn't the spot mate. You can take in all of that info in the weeks and months afterwards, but the experience itself requires set, setting and just as important is INTENT.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Exogenesis]
#18817554 - 09/09/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea I guess the computer wasn't good. I was comfortable tho rolling around the carpet in my spacious clean apartment. The pc is on a 60 inch so its not like I was cramped or uncomfortable and I have a small ergonomic handheld keyboard which is convenient and awesome but yea I suppose you're right. I think mckenna definately put a spin on things for me lol.
I've had my own revelations in the past but holy shit lol...
I guess ill have to look into setting and intent. My intent was just to trip and enjoy the beautiful experience. The setting could of been better. I like the outdoors and usually prefer it.
Now I see why its important to have a good guide or shaman to help with these experiences. I was just trying to have fun and get some cool visuals and stuff. Maybe to high of a dose for now.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18817577 - 09/09/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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next time make a play list..have your favorite foods and water all around.. keep the music playing with a remote control.. sound quality is key.. have a xanax in your pocket..
try again...
no mckenna..nothing with words unless its music..
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18817583 - 09/09/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea ill definately prepare more especially the music. Ill get some drinks and good tasting candy n stuff around for like positive stimulation and to stay hydrated. Cool man and thanks. Ill have to wait at least a few weeks to try again but ill definately be hoping for a more positive experience
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18817771 - 09/09/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrooms do carry a sinister vibe,every trip isn't always a key 2 the heavens. learn 2 accept & deal with it.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: pocornfun]
#18881776 - 09/23/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree they do sometimes. Could possibly be karma if you believe in that. That being said I've been doing a lot of studying and i don't believe psychedelics to be evil but more of a door or window to see through. Sometimes you might not always like what you see.
Among these conclusions have any of you had any thoughts of sacred geometry and vibrational frequencies and such while meditating or under the influence of psychedelics? This shit got real deep for me and showed me many things. I just wanna know I'm not alone.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18882741 - 09/23/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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take 2 grams for your next trip and just enjoy the hell out of yourself
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Apeman]
#18884087 - 09/24/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bad trips are the visual manifestation of our perceptions and subconcious. I don't think drugs are evil. It's like the gun debate, it's not the gun it's the one who's holding it. And unfortunately for us trip heads the right mindset is key to "holding the gun," elsewise you might point it at yourself.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#18884106 - 09/24/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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It appears you've been living 2 lives Mr. Anderson ;-)
take the red pill, then there is no fear anymore
yup, the thoughts about psychedelics being evil is a normal thoguht I get when tripping if you use them you must really ground yourself, just like if you were doing shamanic work probably (they contact spirits too)
one way is not using them for contacting spirits, grounding yourself in nature, living healthily(not doing other drugs/fasting before using them etc), helping others, tripping for the love (not to gain knowledge about the universe, let thoughts go) etc.
then you're less likely to be attacked by spirits I think, they don't like love they feed on your fear
and they feed on abuse, if you use drugs everyday/have a bad life situation you're more likely to get a bad spirit I think
use psychedelics to embrace life, not escape it like one said here on the boards
spirits are real, but no more likely with psychedelics than any other drug (weed, amphetamines/heroin,...) they feed on people who try to escape reality, because then you're less grounded/balanced
only trip when you feel ready
don't forget we got the devil within us, thoughts/desires/emotions , you must let all thoughts go, don't be attached to anything (accept death too)
nature+psytrance helps letting go try this one next trip, and accept death/let go of all thought: youtube.com/watch?v=lQuH2JPjOiY
mushroom chocolates give good trip each time, since no nausea 3g is usually enough for a good trip for me, sometimes 4g but that is very intense sometimes (can take a year to process)
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18884167 - 09/24/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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how do you know what the afterlife entails?
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Rohto]
#18884811 - 09/24/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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mio thats pretty cool...
i let guilt eat me up..
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18885376 - 09/24/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18885527 - 09/24/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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makes any trip good
same with a walk in nature/sit in nature in every trip
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
#18885577 - 09/24/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yep, I think a nice walk in nature would stop the majority of bad trips. The problem is, GETTING there, and comprehending the task of "going somewhere else" when your in a bad trip.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18885642 - 09/24/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: You're being delusional and wasting time
I can't stand when people make black and white judgements about what other's have experienced from trips.
Remember that we are all unique and living in our own realities. Our trips too, are unique. There are no absolutes in this world. There are people who believe psychedelics are evil. There are people who believe psychedelics show you God. There are people like me who believe that psychedelics do nothing more than temporarily rewire your brain to think in a different manor.
Take what you will from this comment and the experience.. Only you can integrate it into the real world.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18886920 - 09/24/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I also had some questions as to if any others had come to the conclusin tripping is occultic and evil??? Is this true or just a bad trip.
Of course it's not, that's a common delusion - you just need more practice.
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drugs are a gateway and that other dimensions do exist
True that but you still gotta leave that "good vs evil" shit behind and just step through...
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any of you had any thoughts of sacred geometry and vibrational frequencies and such while meditating or under the influence of psychedelics?any of you had any thoughts of sacred geometry and vibrational frequencies and such while meditating or under the influence of psychedelics?
Yes. Crystals (usually quartz) might help you out there. I have an awesome rock that I also use to stay grounded (if I'm inside) during intense trips.
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have a xanax in your pocket..
Trip naked.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18887150 - 09/24/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I live my life fairly well. I have my own place and all that, job car gf etc... everyday i just go at my own pace and do my thing. I dont let alot of things get to me. I'm pretty care free.
I don't think it would have anything to do with my intentions. I saved a mosquito from a urinal while taking a piss recently instead of pissing on it and killing it because I believe in karma n all that(stupid exampIe) but I do believe maybe i was eaten up inside because of guilt do to my addictive personality. And your right tripping to gain knowledge of the universe is definately selfish and carries bad intent but such things do fascinate me.
I think I have the intent thing down. I'm a very good hearted person which is almost always courteous to others or at least as much as you can be. I've always been a fairly happy person.
I was smoking excessive amounts of pot recently before this and I'd get drunk on occasion like fully indulging on that with a little coke like once a month or so. I definitely have no interest in abusing things like I had been anymore. I'm definately more aware of my actions and how they effect others directly and indirectly.
Its just the shit got so deep that even thoughts had intentions that carried vibrational frequencies that influenced the world!
Thanks a lot mio and those birds are awesome. And thank you xl caps i overlooked your post very simple and easy explanation. Very strait to the point. Good info from the both of you. I wish I understood this stuff more. My connections ran so deep I screamed and gasped plug me back in for the second time lol with my throat feeling like it was being massaged same with other parts on my body and yea idk that red pill looks deceitful lol.
Thank you all for being there for me. Hopefully I'm not to analytical. I definately think I may have achieved ego death. Wasn't really going for it but I think I understand what that means now. Dont worry though I seem to be returning to my old self just with a way better outlook on things.
I made many many many connections tho...
Oh yea my ass did get sedated this time. I was force fed xanax lol. I love my friends. I live my life by love. Idk what else I can do. I feel I've always been this way but did allow a lot of negative things in my life that I shouldn't have or wouldn't have if I was aware of it having this effect which once again would make that selfish right? We all can't be perfect tho its so hard and almost to much of a burden for anyone.
Just one question. I see many others tripping for selfish reasons abusing drugs running around having orgies. Why wouldnt I be aloud but they are lol? Did they just learn how to hold the gun and I don't? Either way I wouldnt want to use that as an excuse to abuse drugs or for other negative purposes.
One of the best realizations was that we can literally will our own reality through positive thinking. Is this true?
Or is all this just me making rationalizations do to my psyche?
Love and fear are the 2 main primitive feelings all other feelings derive from correct?
PS when u said trip naked after quoting have a xanax in your pocket you meant like have no xanax available like no safety net or like literally trip naked cause we do that also lol
I've lightened up on my pot smoking alot and am trying to watch my addictive behavior and just in case the vibes are real to start by making small changes. Nothing really major but just do stuff like buy things at more local family stores and not try to buy things that are supporting stuff like gmos. Not just cause of the foods being bad for you but for what a lot of those companies stand for and are doing to the planet. Think I might get a water purifier to that'll make me happy lol(:
I like the rainbow in your signature pic PS. The day after I saw the biggest one ive ever seen in my life in front of my face I couldn't believe it. It was an amazing thing. I had never seen one so vivid. Can these things really be a window to the spirit world? I don't wanna know or try this because its really not what I'm into. It kinda scares me but I guess I have to put aside that fear as you said and focus on love but seriously 100% I swear to god I was watching mckenna tripping balls and was kinda trying to masturbate and be alon but my gf kept bothering me by getting up n stuff but she knew wat I was doing. Anyways I swear to fucking god this was later after cause I never finished so I went back to watching mckenna and while I was watching him talk about the dmt elves and the primitive grunts and sounds he heard them make and he was explaining what you felt and how the feeling worked its way up your abdomen and through your esophagaus and then I litterally started vocalizing these weird random sounds and grunts as he was describing them it was almost uncontrollable like i was being controlled by a vibrational frequency. I didn't even start to finish what I was saying before I jumped up and ran into my bedroom and woke up my gf and told her I was having a bad trip. Before the weird shit happened i remember it got orangish and I swear I felt like a portal was about to open or some shit. Stuff really freaked me out. I think I'm gonna have this place smudged. My one friend said to. Thanks for letting me ramble. I'm not crazy
Lol i love the matrix quotes from you guys lol. Wow man no wonder there's no real studies done on psychs. Shit gets deep. In the middle of an experience I screamed for a person and for some reason I thought something really really bad was gonna happen to him. Why would something like that happen?
I also had a conclusion that me learning the things I did could be dangerous for me ):
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18888535 - 09/25/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're right about most it but wrong about the morality of psychedelics. The dimensional spirit world bull shit may be or may not be true. It's been believed for generations in the ancient world and they weren't dumb by any means. However it might just be something that could be scientifically proven. Your subconcscious is what gives you this morality to something. It's you that's evil. Possibly. Psychedelics are definitely not evil although they can be used to change dimensions and contact spirits if you're into that scene, I personally am not although I find it interesting.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18888897 - 09/25/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are emotional amplifiers; gateways to a larger world that modern humans lost for some reason and now vigorously deny exists. If you go there ya gotta be ready for the fallout and blowback.
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tripping to gain knowledge of the universe is definately selfish and carries bad intent but such things do fascinate me.
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One of the best realizations was that we can literally will our own reality through positive thinking. Is this true?
No, it's just another piece of BS. You can do the work and change things, but you can't magically get there.
FWIW IME most of the "realizations" are like that, they're just parts of your subconscious clutter bubbling up to the surface where you grab on to them and think they're profound. Tripping is just like that.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18888962 - 09/25/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks and its cool bro. I think I'm starting to understand what it shows you and I can think of a good reason to deny that world exists. Not acknowledging it allows you too treat people like shit and think you can get away with it. I've never been to bad and honestly believe I'm a good person but I have had my moments. Ill take it for what it is and try to learn from it.
It also doesn't help that I do on occasion take somewhat larger doses due to having an addictive personality. Think I just gave myself a dose of my own medicine lol literally!
Whatever these things are they're definitely not bad. Kinda like medicine for the soul. I'm also gonna try and stop caring wat others think like not be impressionable or have worry. So what you know
I was suffering from depression for like 2 years. I can now say i feel somewhat awakened.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18889543 - 09/25/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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"One of the best realizations was that we can literally will our own reality through positive thinking. Is this true?"
Yes
How you think affects yourself and everyone around you more than you may think
send positive vibes to everyone around you, love yourself, love others
you meet the people who are like yourself always, or whom there is a reason for you to meet
so if you are outgoing you meet outgoing people if you are inwards you meet inwards people
it happens automatically, you attract people like yourself
if you use drugs everyday, you meet only people who use drugs everyday if you meditate everyday, you automatically meet people who meditate
you might meet lots of strangers too who have something to say to you/old people you haven't talked to in many years/get books from people which tell you just what you need to hear
kinda magic
don't discount any ideas, only those that don't fit your personal experience it first becomes a realization when it fits your personal experience and you can see it applied to other people too likely, before that it is just a thought
when you think positively you start to get negativity,fear,doubt,frustration out of your mind suddenly you get rid of all thoughts then reality starts to unfold, you will never guess what I've noticed the past few years and the many people I've met at once... there are no coincidences
one soul..
thinking positively can change your life, see the good in people and in the world, notice beauty
"less is more" , that is a good realization :-) peace
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
#18889590 - 09/25/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Man that's deep like hitting the nail right on the head. My one fear was if anyone else understood the power of conscious thinking and using it to will things through vibrational frequencies that they could use it for bad and just for me acknowledging this could potentially put me at risk if there is another side to that coin cause someone might not like me spilling their beans so to speak.
Knowledge is power and if you understood how the universe works I could imagine that'd make you very powerful
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18889780 - 09/25/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I went through a series of what some people would consider "bad trips", but it was all about balancing out my karma. Then came the lesson of accepting death. After going through this things have been amazing and I've been moving into new territory. The bad trips nearly always contain important lessons and when faced they can become good ones in the end.
I still have "scary" ones at times but that's more in the sense of riding a roller coaster for the first time. They are new adventures. That's what this is about, expanding ourselves through new experiences.
You just roll with them, the most important part is to learn and keep moving forward.
And yes, sometimes outlandish paranoid ideas can grip a person and that's where set and setting comes in. I know hot weather tends to lead me in this direction for a couple reasons. In "The Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss" Dennis McKenna recalls a time when he met a couple while camping in Hawaii. All of a sudden after seeing their faces glow in the lantern light he came to the conclusion that they were serial killing sexual predator cannibals who were going to rape and eat him. He went back to his tent and sat there with a machete waiting for them to attack him, which never happened.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: blckmynnse8]
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Ok cool. Good to know its just the crazy in me. I hear there's a fine like between genius and insanity
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson] 1
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And *I* hear that my boner just came up and broke my nose looking at your sig, Anderson. Bastard.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18890255 - 09/25/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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My one fear was if anyone else understood the power of conscious thinking and using it to will things through vibrational frequencies that they could use it for bad and just for me acknowledging this could potentially put me at risk if there is another side to that coin cause someone might not like me spilling their beans so to speak.
Sure, you can change yourself and what you send out. And you can utilize the power of the Tao (the Way) to manifest good things in your life as well as utilize what people would call coincidence. But unless you are really adept you can't just think something and have it happen, not in any reality anybody else would recognize, as that only happens in your imagination.
There are no beans to spill, all of this is available to anybody who takes the time and trouble to inquire deeply enough. It's good that you want to to do that, but none of it is a secret.
It's said there are good shamans (wizards), and evil shamans, and there are old shamans, but there are no old, evil shamans. If you use that energy for ill it will destroy you in the end. Use it for good and you will be repaid many times over. Food for thought.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18890291 - 09/25/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good to know. Yea I didn't mean directly manifest things but I could see how its done through will and vibrations like a domino effect. I highly doubt I have the skills as of now anyway since I can't even accept death and such or haven't yet since I wasn't able to control that trip.
Ill try to practice meditation and try to center myself to just let go next time. I think that's an easier first step. Then its on to save the world
Idk when ill be going that deep again though. Ill wait til I feel ready and if I can't over come it oh well there's always next time lol
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18890455 - 09/25/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well good luck. I've been trying to save the world through tripping for about 20 years and with a few notable exceptions its mostly a wash.
Zen practice teaches you that all effective change comes from within - up to the point that you see there is no difference between inside and outside. I kind of get the impression that's what you're looking for, how to manifest it in the outside world.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18890481 - 09/25/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea ita cool man. I just had a lot of questions cause all this stuff just came to me. I wasnt really looking is what really caught me off guard. I mean I always loved how it made me think outside the box and get very deep and philosophical but I never got a meaning like this that deep from it. Like really connecting a lot of the dots but then again that could all just be my psyche and rationalization. I just wanted to see the pretty lights and feel the groove you know lol.
I'm definitely gonna delve into this more but I have much training to do now. I am still young grasshoppa (:
Either way ill try to go about these things in a healthy manor. Too much of anything can be bad. Don't wanna become to obssessed but it is hard to look away after seeing some of the stuff and having those realization but ill just do what I've always done and try to apply what I've learned in the best way possible.
But seriously thanks to all of you for giving your input and trying to help explain these things to me. It is much appreciated. I will get back to you guys in your ratings (:
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18890596 - 09/25/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll tell ya what, since we're sharing here. It can be just as hard to get deeply into it and find out things that you just can't forget. The nature of reality is like that.
I'm a physicist by education and desire, and I've been chasing anomalous physics since I was first in college, almost 40 years ago. I've found quite a bit over the years, but nothing that I couldn't make fit into what I already knew. This last summer was different. It started on a foundation of effects similar to what I've experienced in over a thousand trips so far, this time with awesome PE (in my sig, second pic) that took everything to a new mostly incomprehensible level.
I made a couple posts at the time, just for the record, but stopped writing about as I did some more experiments along the same line and got the same results. Reality was shifting into another mode, one in which impossible things were actually happening. I didn't doubt my sanity, I just set out to try and document the brand new music I was hearing. Then I realized I could write a major book based on this, and started working on that with the intention of following up the research side of it as much as possible over the next year or so.
Simply put I was experiencing complete quantum superposition states of significant (hour long) duration. I ran into a particle physicist at a recent RenFaire (I run into a lot of people at those things ) and we got down to brass tacks about what this likely was and how to study it correctly. Curiouser and curiouser, he basically agreed with me about both what it was and what was going on. It was obviously fascinating him as well.
So I'm at a crossroads. It's fucking scary. It makes no rational sense. It makes full irrational sense. My brain doesn't easily think that way. Nobody's does, that's the main deal. Do I work with it, or try to forget it, compartmentalize it off, basically deny all my research and interest, because it's just too damn weird to live with?
Be careful what you wish for.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18890688 - 09/25/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot ill be reading this over for awhile I'm sure. Seriously what disturbed me was it seemed like the reality feed back loop or something of that sort became distorted and the hallucination became real. It is scary shit. Ill try not to get too caught up in this stuff or at least not let it interfere with my regular life. But damn is it fascinating. I only experiment with 2 psychs as of now and its been like that for 5 years and I'm almost 30 and those 2 are natural psilocybin/psilocin and dmt.
Those are beautiful pe and nice little pagan axe dude! Is he guarding them lol
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Bad things happen to good people. People may do things you think are bad but I believe peoples intent also matters. I used to get in a lot of fights and sleep around but I met everyone half way. I didn't start fights and I never lied to get the cooz. I lived "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" and had some of the best times and best trips of my life. A couple years ago I was with a woman, not fighting,going to school, working. During a trip I realized I was a fake piece of shit,devious and evil and the world was hell and completely separated from god. I was actually living a lie with myself. I wasn't happy. I had brainwashed myself and the shrooms rubbed my nose in my shit pile. The cold hard truth is we don't know shit! Turn your radio dial and you can go from country to pantera. Do we really know what happens when we disturb the most complex things in the universe? Not really . . But it sure isn't a new thing! Just because its profound doesn't mean it's true as we understand it. Its probably overly simplified.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Smeagol]
#18891140 - 09/25/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah man I think the most true thing you can realize in and of a trip is that you are causing delusions. At least that would be the most accurate way to describe every drug experience I've had from weed to lsd (so don't include opiates, alcohol, or benzos). I straight up think I'm living in hell because why else would we be advertised AT and always being forced to focus on money. This train of thought would make my friends these horrible people who were racist in my mind and were planning on killing me; Arizona became a place for people of my color to be tricked into going to for death and the end of the world. Then I come down, WTF!?! Lol I gain insight from weed often too but it's like a 70/30 split of insanity to truth. It's pretty hard to distinguish between fact and fake for me while up but on the come down I feel rejuvenated having just allowed myself to go crazy a bit. That's when you (I) can realize the delusions.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18892576 - 09/26/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Relativity, QM, and string theory starts to make more and more sense the more you trip (not that I understand any of them fully though)
I like to think about why it is so easy to send a signal to the other end of space with the ultimate speed, light speed when it is so hard to send matter with this speed (requires infinite energy)
nature must love electromagnetic waves somehow they all travel at light speed
you can send a signal to the end of the universe with light speed with a 9V battery, a capacitor+resistor and a coil
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I drank a bottle of johnny walker and then I got sick. Is whiskey evil?
NOOO! Stop dosing like a maniac!
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Asante]
#18892679 - 09/26/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can always go so deep into your psyche it freaks you out (the unconscious is often unpleasant)
7+gs is your problem like others say
not sure I would do over 4g or 4.5g, but I usually eat as chocolates and dosing is a bit different there
know your dose
I don't like tripping on so high doses it takes 1+ years to process the trip, with <4g I can process a trip in a few months, but with 4g+ it takes years. If I want to do it, I do it very rarely (so as to keep an intact ego, it can be hard to interact with others without one, if you are everyone)
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
#18893171 - 09/26/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks wiccan I hear ya on that. I still won't try to forget some of the things I learned from going inside of myself like that. Its good to be aware of some of these things but I don't wanna become obssessed.
I feel like my ego is coming back to normal. Still with a few things lingering but its not so bad. I just need to remember hey who gives a shit lol
And mio ik exactly what you mean now lol. I'm actually pretty happy about what I acheieved. I was completely unaware of some of the things I was doing to myself. I need to learn to become more centered and not let my addictive personality eat me alive. I have always been conscious of my health but I was smoking weed lately like it was going out of style. I could definitely see the addictive personality i have that I always just rationalized for in many ways. Its good to be somewhat aware of this in my eyes. But in the end ill try and remember who gives a fuck. It is what you make it!!!!
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
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Mr. Anderson said: Thanks a lot ill be reading this over for awhile I'm sure. Seriously what disturbed me was it seemed like the reality feed back loop or something of that sort became distorted and the hallucination became real. It is scary shit. Ill try not to get too caught up in this stuff or at least not let it interfere with my regular life. But damn is it fascinating. I only experiment with 2 psychs as of now and its been like that for 5 years and I'm almost 30 and those 2 are natural psilocybin/psilocin and dmt.
Those are beautiful pe and nice little pagan axe dude! Is he guarding them lol
Thanks, that's Gimli the Dwarf from LOTR, he was a roadkill find in his original McDonald's wrapper some years ago. Now his job is to harvest shrooms bigger than him and just generally kick evil's ass.
Usually (at least for me) the sensation that the hallucinations are real is itself a hallucination. But recently the veil of reality or whatever it is that keeps us "safe" from the screaming void has got a rip in it, and I'm tugging on the threads. Carefully.
Enjoy the journey.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
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mio said: Relativity, QM, and string theory starts to make more and more sense the more you trip (not that I understand any of them fully though)
I like to think about why it is so easy to send a signal to the other end of space with the ultimate speed, light speed when it is so hard to send matter with this speed (requires infinite energy)
nature must love electromagnetic waves somehow they all travel at light speed
you can send a signal to the end of the universe with light speed with a 9V battery, a capacitor+resistor and a coil
You can send a signal to the end of the universe just by waving your hand. The entire universe creates that inertia.
I'm in a place where I need to assimilate everything that's known about QM down to its hairy little toes. Although that's a big chunk, MIT OpenCourseWare is probably up to it if I am. Bitch of a job, ain't it.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Smeagol]
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Smeagol said: But it sure isn't a new thing! Just because its profound doesn't mean it's true as we understand it. Its probably overly simplified.
Oh no, it's not a new thing. It's older than dirt, been around forever. If you mine historical religions you can find exactly this same thing; if you practice Buddhist mediation you can reach pretty much the same states. They're just as hard to align with "ordinary" life.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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mio said: Relativity, QM, and string theory starts to make more and more sense the more you trip (not that I understand any of them fully though)
I like to think about why it is so easy to send a signal to the other end of space with the ultimate speed, light speed when it is so hard to send matter with this speed (requires infinite energy)
nature must love electromagnetic waves somehow they all travel at light speed
you can send a signal to the end of the universe with light speed with a 9V battery, a capacitor+resistor and a coil
You can send a signal to the end of the universe just by waving your hand. The entire universe creates that inertia.
I'm in a place where I need to assimilate everything that's known about QM down to its hairy little toes. Although that's a big chunk, MIT OpenCourseWare is probably up to it if I am. Bitch of a job, ain't it.
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True, gravity connects the whole universe at light speed, it extends to infinity You pull on the moon with light speed when you walk, weird ;P
it's almost like the universe resonates at that speed somehow, like it prefers EM waves
I can't wrap my head around it lol, but it's an idea I keep questioning suddenly
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
#18895041 - 09/26/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP focus on putting yourself on a positive vibration, and tell me it isn't real.
mushrooms aren't evil, but they will show you the evil in the world.
good vibes, may your journey to enlightenment be filled with love and light.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Legend]
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Thanks and that's exactly what I'm doing and I've been doing my whole life. Live by love.
The theories I was going on and on about where ridiculous. It went beyond gravity into sound. I found that sound was god and vibrational frequencies were what held everything together and geometric patterns created by certain frequencies was like the calling card or a clue to how the universe really works
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
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You should look into frequencies, certain can repair damaged DNA.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Legend]
#18895125 - 09/26/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea I've heard that certain sounds can influence stuff like that. I've never tried it but ill check it out
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18895598 - 09/26/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sound is a vibration. Heat is a vibration. Light. Radio signal. Well waves. mythbusters took a little machine that could shake a weight back and forth and that thing had a steel beam bouncing. It made an entire bridge vibrate one of the guys could feel several feet away. Life will confirm or deny it. Don't necessarily look for proof its true just watch.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Smeagol]
#18895638 - 09/26/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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True maybe I just thought sound could show you the key to the universe through sacred geometry.
That could just be my way of rationalizing vibrations through sound tho. Vibrations may be the key then. Every thought carried a vibration. Maybe sacred geometry is just like a map.
Its hard to explain but I was able to see how intent even had a ripple effect throughout our universe. Not just mine but everyone's and that's what the problem is this planets so fucked up. Like its going in the wrong direction.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18895678 - 09/26/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah during a trip i had bad vibrations which morphed into bad imagery and feelings..
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson] 1
#18895762 - 09/26/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Warning: opinions will follow...
I believe in spirituality and I believe in Jesus/god/hs etc. I also believe in demons and witchcraft...Shrooms don't feel inherently evil to me but I do feel that I'm more open to spiritual forces in general. I can handle my shit fine on most doses (highest I've done is 6Gs) but I can no longer trip around people I'm not 100% sure about. Gotten some scary ass vibes from some people that I only get when I'm either really high or tripping. Demonic vibes and such.
I had the idea that if God exists then he must have created all substances. Why would God create an evil substance? So all things must be permissible.
However, I've gotten the worst vibes imaginable off Datura (after the first mystical trip) and I feel like I'm literally opening myself up to demons. I get spiritual senses off it unlike anything else and yet I continued a few more times just to be sure. How could a plant be witchcraft? lol. I tried Diphenhydramine ten times...same thing. Just felt fundamentally wrong (again spiritual sense) and I could feel a demonic presence descend on me every time I did it. I literally felt like my defenses were just gone and I felt like it was something that shouldn't be experienced and that it was tragic that I had. I also felt that it was wickedly enjoyable and appealed to the darkness in my soul and is the only thing I've ever felt a draw toward years after the fact. I had random incantations come into my head and out of curiosity I said them and the spiritual oppression got worse, but I was literally creating things and that was unbelievable. I saw writing on the wall and hallucinated ancient texts that depicted rituals and more spells. It felt very real and I had never heard of or believed in any of the stuff I saw. I felt like it was magic (that's what I instinctively thought after my first comeup) The only reason I did it multiple times is because I didn't believe (and still don't to some extent) that a drug could possibly do that. Can't be real if it's a drug right? Probably just biofeedback that my brain interprets incorrectly right? Hallucinations aren't real and are just mental delusions? Maybe there is more to learn there and I'm just a pussy. I did get a spiritual clarity about a lot of things I'd never thought of before during the "afterglow" which I believe to be true...No idea tbh, but it kind of put me off my belief of anything that is natural must be permissible. Maybe I'll journey there again, but not until I'm damn sure.
I've gotten strangely demonic vibes off shrooms by themselves but mostly around sketchy people. but then I've gotten earth shattering meet with God experiences and experiences into the depths of my psyche that have led to many positive changes. I don't think they are wrong or that they are evil. My spirit always seemed intact even when my ego and all else had gone. In my most intense experience, I felt my ego and all things I had ever thought about reality die and what was left was my spirit and the Godlike nature of that. I felt like I interacted with God for what felt like infinity and fundamentally changed everything I believed about living.
I won't keep droning on and on...can't believe I even typed that out haha.
Tldr; No I don't think they're evil, I just think you are more open to spiritual forces. So take care.
Edit: Oh and the vibrational energy stuff all seemed to make sense when I went on my first Datura "trip" and I believed in it for quite a while. After a bit though I concluded that it's something we won't truly know for quite some time so I just gave up thinking about it lol.
Edited by Art of the Stone (09/26/13 08:19 PM)
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Art of the Stone]
#18895802 - 09/26/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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No that's awesome gave me some really good insight. I can definitely relate.
If things start to go bad ill try to think positive and if that doesn't work ill shine my white light on their bitch asses lol
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18896361 - 09/26/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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art, good post its like you took my mind and wrote down the content..
i agree and heres a good way to sum it..
a shroom is a shroom..
a person is a person..
shrooms dont have free will..
we do.
the "drug" only shows us what we are..
our choices make us who we are.
shrooms arent going to hell.
so correct...drugs arent evil.
we choose to consume.
they do their job.. connecting us and taking us where we deserve.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18896576 - 09/26/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea I can dig that for sure. Ill try and respect the drug a little more
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18898742 - 09/27/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its hard to explain but I was able to see how intent even had a ripple effect throughout our universe. Not just mine but everyone's and that's what the problem is this planets so fucked up. Like its going in the wrong direction.
The planet's not "fucked up", and even if it were it's not because of human intent - it can take care of itself and has been running these little experiments (like us) for endless years already. Everything we think is important is more like a bacterial scum on the surface, and worse shit than what we humans are doing has happened many times before. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be careful and all that, just means we really don't count for shit in the long run, and we can easily be replaced with something more interesting.
But your first thing is basically correct as far as it goes - what you send out, what you take in, what you process, is all part of reality. Beyond that most people get it increasingly wrong, thinking that somehow they control what actually controls them. This is not a blue pill/red pill scenario, BTW.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Art of the Stone]
#18898755 - 09/27/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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However, I've gotten the worst vibes imaginable off Datura (after the first mystical trip) and I feel like I'm literally opening myself up to demons.
Amen to that. There's something about it (from my one and only datura experience) that goes right to dark without stopping. Jim Morrison said it was the only drug he couldn't handle. Interesting about the magical texts though - I get that from mushrooms a lot.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18902178 - 09/28/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:The planet's not "fucked up", and even if it were it's not because of human intent - it can take care of itself and has been running these little experiments (like us) for endless years already. Everything we think is important is more like a bacterial scum on the surface, and worse shit than what we humans are doing has happened many times before. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be careful and all that, just means we really don't count for shit in the long run, and we can easily be replaced with something more interesting.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18903413 - 09/28/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr. Anderson said:Are psychedelics a gateway to another dimension or spirit world. I felt as if I was being tuned by a vibrational frequency. Very scary experience lol.
It's the same world, there are no "gateways". You just got a glimpse of a much wider picture of that world than you were accustomed to.
And as simple observation shows, the world is both good and evil, because what's good for the cat is bad for the mouse. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that monotheism is doing us huge damage by denying the multiplicity of values. But maybe that's just me.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Rhizoid] 1
#18903519 - 09/28/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes they're "occultic" and evil
You just had a weird trip OP, dust yourself off and try again when you feel ready. Maybe take less. If 5 grams was AOK and 7 grams tells you that shrooms are evil and demonic, then that right there is your hint you shouldn't be taking 7 grams at this time.
Just use this:
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Spacerific]
#18906632 - 09/29/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude its cool man. I was with a bunch of amazing friends this weekend "getting it" and I finally got it! I was blinking that eye like a mofo lol. Shits awesome. Started with a smaller dose and increased probably from a gram 2 a few over the night. Man meditation is deep. This stuff is not for the evil tho.
All of its real.
The more you know lol
As long as you got nothin to hide tho. Its all good.
Its crazy cause I've been doing it my whole life and didn't even know.
I've been awakening myself spiritually.
Bonus round!!!!
Just stay positive!
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18906814 - 09/29/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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The person who looks inside himself never gets sick
for he knows what makes him sick, his thoughts and his diet
but has sickness arrived you gotta take that with you
happiness is within from being yourself, so it must be ones task to find out how to be oneself most of the time
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
#18906911 - 09/29/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sometimes people lose themselves and forget its there movie lol. With all the chemistry to play with an out of control personality and other unaddressed issues its easy to become ungrounded.
Man stuff runs deep. Everythings connected.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18907102 - 09/29/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yup lol
don't go too deep, everybody has something they want to hide from themselves
realizing your mistakes is the depth that is good to go to, so you can correct them and be happy
reflect on life situation and thoughts
let thought go, be free
soon psychedelics won't be needed much, for nature/meditation/simple lifestyle get you just as far, but the difference is you can be yourself
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
#18907191 - 09/29/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm starting to understand that you definitely don't wanna figure it all out or the journeys pointless. Kinda just gotta ride the wave.
I'm definitely becoming interested achieving this without drugs. Even tho the drugs are fun to but the centerdness that comes with it.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18907218 - 09/29/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm definitely becoming interested achieving this without drugs. Even tho the drugs are fun to but the centerdness that comes with it.
Just be prepared that it takes a whole lot of work and a whole lot longer to get to those places without them. OTOH if you only do it with the drugs then you only can do it with drugs and you'll always feel like somethings lacking without them. Kind of a double edged sword, there's no easy way to go if you want to go there.
Lots of people seem to settle for a kind of halfway approach, where they say stuff that sounds right and seem to think right, but when pressed hard it all falls apart again. If you want to get to where it doesn't fall apart, you're gonna half to put in serious time at it.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18907633 - 09/29/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks man and its cool. Ill do my best to be as positive as I can though and make the best choices possible. This almost doesnt seem like something new. It almost seems like its something I've been doing my whole life just never recognized it. My uncle practiced kun tao as a child so I suppose I did grow up knowing some of the stuff was out there but the masterpiece I painted the other day was getting closer calculating perception is very hard tho, many variables. Changes a lot like a flame. Anyone else able to talk in riddles almost like a secret language or almost communicate without talking but just seeing the vibes and knowing.
I was taught so many things by an awesome jedi friend of mine. We went over religion, spirituality, chemistry, physics, biology, relativity, collective conscious, twin flames, zodiac signs, astrology, sacred geometry, history, vibrations, karma, eastern philosophies, duality, good intent, bad intent, star wars and the force, mark twain books, stephen king, aliens, government, computers/matrix theory etc.... etc.... my friend was like wow you are a machine lol.
Definately was nice to experience this with others (:
Idk I've always been extrememly smart and regurgitate bs like there's no tomarrow. Everything is wat I thought it was. Practicing these things in a bad way can take a toll on ur physical body from what I've heard. Even positively.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
#18917097 - 10/01/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just wanted to follow up that I've been trying to keep this up by making the best daily decisions I can and trying to maintain more awareness of not just wat I'm doing to my body but how I'm affecting the world and others.
Started stretching in the morning (yoga) and been educating myself as much as possible. Bought a crystal and a book on em n stuff like that. Got some sage too smudge my house and been making tons of little choices here and there but still enjoying some luxaries when I want. Its been so easy to. Its incredible.
Wen I start getting lost I try and remember "less is more" or "this is my movie" and stuff like that. This really has been a life changing experience. Some can look away. I choose not to.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
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Mr. Anderson said: Just wanted to follow up that I've been trying to keep this up by making the best daily decisions I can and trying to maintain more awareness of not just wat I'm doing to my body but how I'm affecting the world and others.
Started stretching in the morning (yoga) and been eucating myself as much as possible. Bought a crystal and a book on em n stuff like that. Got some sage too smudge my house andbeen making tons of little choices here and there but still enjoying some luxaries when I want. Its been so easy to. Its incredible.
Wen I start getting lost I try and remember "less is more" or "this is my movie" and stuff like that. This reall has been a life changing experience. Some can look away. I choose not to.
Much respect.
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18917169 - 10/01/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you I appreciate it
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
#18917937 - 10/01/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: write a trip report.. make it as long as you need to.. be as descriptive as possible..
I too had a horrible trip before.. It still haunts me... It always will..
I will give you my honest opinion once I know more..
Without ego death it couldnt of been that bad.
Same. I think everyone has been knocked off their high horse by mushrooms respect the flesh of the gods
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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
#18966786 - 10/12/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Man life has been so crazy guys. Its like I'm walking this path. Things have just been coming too me like I can't explain. Anomalies if you will. I wish I had a calculator for all this lol. It seems like everything that's logical just is. Too many un understood things to add to the equation tho so far. But man do I love you guys!!!!
Lets keep swimming and make this world a better place. Whatever dimension this is and in a linear aspect lol. Well linear and all together. But positive is positive and negative is negative unless you're on the other side of positive. If you just stick to love tho the rest will sort itself out. I love you guys all of you not cause of what was taught but because each of you is an aspect of me I didn't explore. Even the little dope fiend bitch groveling or the priest on his high horse because we've all taught eachother something and its coming together
Believe think dream I love add
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