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Nice Ol Bud
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Awesome. Going in the archive! Thanks again!
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
#18827955 - 09/11/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is the smallest sized container I can do effectively using this method? It would be nice to work with tubs that are less than 15qts.
Edit: Also, I understand a taller bin with a smaller footprint is desired for better FAE. Is there a ratio? I was thinking about going and measuring a 66qt bin and using the dimension ratios to select an alternate/smaller bin.
Edited by DOJOLOACH (09/11/13 02:12 PM)
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18832909 - 09/12/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think it's ok to substitute PH up for the gypsum when preparing the WBS?
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18832920 - 09/12/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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DOJOLOACH said: Do you think it's ok to substitute PH up for the gypsum when preparing the WBS?
Gypsum is ph neutral....
And technically neither of those 2 things are needed, but I would add some gypsum...
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: PussyFart]
#18832990 - 09/12/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking gypsum buffed ph so that contams would be less likely to grow, but alright thanks.
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18875934 - 09/22/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay I have a set of wbs jars waiting to be knocked up. I think I will use a cube syringe so I don't sacrafice my penis envy to bad spawn. I left the wbs to dry in a strainer and on paper towels for 90 minutes or so, but they were still sticky. Any thoughts? I used straight black coffee.
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18907297 - 09/29/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright so it's been about 10 days since kknocking up the wbs jars. The jars are 4oz. I filled them full. I do not see any signs of growth at all. They are sitting in a dark closet on top of our water heater. It stays in the mid-high 70's and is dark.
I used franks wbs tek and for the wbs I used "parakeet and finch food" I know there is water in there because the wbs was kind of sticky when I put it in the jars.
At the same time I also knocked up 24 brf jars. At this time only 12 of them are showing signs of growth, I used two different strains. Every jar with Albino A+ has started colonizing (12 jars),does a difference in strain cause delayed colonization times?
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18907447 - 09/29/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DOJOLOACH said: Alright so it's been about 10 days since kknocking up the wbs jars. The jars are 4oz. I filled them full. I do not see any signs of growth at all. They are sitting in a dark closet on top of our water heater. It stays in the mid-high 70's and is dark.
I used franks wbs tek and for the wbs I used "parakeet and finch food" I know there is water in there because the wbs was kind of sticky when I put it in the jars.
If the wbs was "kind of sticky" you surely didn't follow franks wbs tek. Or any other tek I've found for grains so far.
They should be dry on the outside, I think this is emphasised pretty much all over. You probably got some nasties growing in there now, post a pic or something
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: spacechildo]
#18907706 - 09/29/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stromrider
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18907916 - 09/29/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should have used larger jars and not filled them past 3/4 of the way full. Most of us use qt jars. Some people use pints
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: Stromrider]
#18908074 - 09/29/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright, I have some so I'll do that next. I don't understand why the wbs came out sticky though. It wasn't obnoxiously sticky, but it felt gooey. I used plain dark coffee from Mcdonalds, if it matters. Perhaps I let the wbs simmer too long.
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18908373 - 09/29/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DOJOLOACH said: Alright, I have some so I'll do that next. I don't understand why the wbs came out sticky though. It wasn't obnoxiously sticky, but it felt gooey. I used plain dark coffee from Mcdonalds, if it matters. Perhaps I let the wbs simmer too long.
I soak for 12 to 18 hours and then put it on the stove on high. As soon as it starts to simmer I take it off and pour it in the strainer. I figure it soaks up plenty of water during the soak and I just heat it up to help the external water steam off in the colander. As it sits in the colander I stir it every 10 min or so. After about an hour I take a hair dryer to it to finish drying any leftover external moisture. Works great everytime
Maybe one day when I don't feel so partied out (been a wild weekend) I'll write up my own wbs prep tek
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: Stromrider]
#18915915 - 10/01/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright I'll try it again. if it is still coming out sticky I'm going to let it dry longer with a blow dryer.
I also noticed it's easier to use the strainer to prewash the wbs then put it in a pot for a final wash to remove twigs and other trash.
Edited by DOJOLOACH (10/01/13 12:38 PM)
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18921843 - 10/02/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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How do I knock up each jar if the syringe doesn't touch the wbs, do I just squirt the spores ontop of the seeds?
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#18921929 - 10/02/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DOJOLOACH said: How do I knock up each jar if the syringe doesn't touch the wbs, do I just squirt the spores ontop of the seeds?
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19086951 - 11/04/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have my bulk grow colonizing a 66qt tub right now.
On my first wbs batch I had all but 3 jars get contamed. So I decided to make a tiny container full of eco-earth coconut coir and here it is. Is it ready to put in my fruiting chamber?

On another note, my pf tek jars are coming along much nicer in my new sgfc! I've yielded a dry Oz. off the first flush alone. This may not be a lot but it's a huge improvement over my first sgfc.
UPDATE:
How much longer on this tub? I have condensation around the sides of the tub, is this good?
Edited by DOJOLOACH (11/08/13 03:24 PM)
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Re: Bulk substrate tub tips/teks? [Re: DOJOLOACH]
#19126012 - 11/12/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone?
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