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Topcorn
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Joust]
#18832378 - 09/12/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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here are more of the september cyans from a couple years ago, i see no rings

 same patch, about a month after i found the crusty ones

 I picked a good amount from this patch for the last two seasons. never found any rings on stems and never saw the distinct olive green/blue/brown caps on developing pins that ovoids often show.

I found one ovoid last fall. it was haggered and the ring wasn't clear but it looked different from a typical cyan. I went back to that same spot this spring and found a small cluster of obvious ovoids. they all had rings and the developing caps had the distinct green-blue coloring. Pic is on my girls phone, ill try and upload it later.
As for the summer cyans I could see them being ovoids. I only collected from that patch one or two times during season and didn't take many pics. These are from that same patch that fruited in summer or right near by em. The thing about this area is it has many active species that all coexist with each other. I find baeos, cyans, blue ringers, cyanfibs(?) and possibly ovoids if thats what these are growing sometimes side by side. I believe they all came in with the mulch used here, its that finely ground dark colored wood substrate that looks like dirt at first.
 Crappy cell pic but i might see ring on a few here. they dont have the ovoid color on the pins though.
these are the cyanfibs(?)
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Topcorn]
#18832632 - 09/12/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about P. alenii? That last photo is insane. I don't know what those are but if they are cyanofibs, congrats. They look awesome.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18832877 - 09/12/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said: What about P. alenii? That last photo is insane. I don't know what those are but if they are cyanofibs, congrats. They look awesome.
that also came to mind when i found em. I believe I have found one definite specimen of P. alleni two falls ago, it was similar to a cyan but distinctly different and bruised blue heavily.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Topcorn]
#18832905 - 09/12/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Topcorn said:
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Hashfinger said: What about P. alenii? That last photo is insane. I don't know what those are but if they are cyanofibs, congrats. They look awesome.
that also came to mind when i found em. I believe I have found one definite specimen of P. alleni two falls ago, it was similar to a cyan but distinctly different and bruised blue heavily.
I always thought P. alenii were the "not-so-wavy caps".
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18833027 - 09/12/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are some beautiful finds there Topcorn.
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Joust
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 Ovoids, you can see the rings
 Maybe cyanofibrillosa, id like to see micro for it.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Joust]
#18833122 - 09/12/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are some beautiful finds there Topcorn. 
Yes! i cant wait to see what you come up with this fall!
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Those last ones are really weird. If you happened to find them again please send a few to someone who has a microscope. Beautiful clusters man!
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Joust]
#18833150 - 09/12/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Joust said:
 Ovoids, you can see the rings
 Maybe cyanofibrillosa, id like to see micro for it.
Wait, are there rings on the very bottom part of the stems in the last photo? Could those too be ovoideocystidiata? I feel like I can discern a darker blue area below, and a lighter area above an annular zone.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18833176 - 09/12/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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no way you would notice the rings way more i think, although whats awesome about mushrooms are im never right, look at the dubious one in the very right corner, that looks like a veil...
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Joust]
#18833297 - 09/12/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The size and habitat of them (the last ones) makes me think that they could be stuntzii with the annulus worn off. Just a wild guess.
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maynardjameskeenan said: The size and habitat of them (the last ones) makes me think that they could be stuntzii with the annulus worn off. Just a wild guess.
DOOD I was just gonna say that, but then again, aren't stuntzii kind of wavy like cyans?
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18833331 - 09/12/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh they're totally blue ringers... This video shows a lot of them in different phases of growth.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18833441 - 09/12/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have never come across a patch of blue ringers where all the mushrooms were missing their annulus! Even old nasty stuntzii i find have at least an indication of the ring. Also i have never seen stuntzii blue completely like the ones in this pic.
 here is one next to a baeo. This spot is near where i found the baeos the other day, i checked it out that day but didn't see any signs of them returning.

You can see a few mature ones with flat or upturned caps still have prominant annulus, this is what blue ringers always look like IME.

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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Topcorn]
#18833449 - 09/12/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't even think that mushroom on the left is a Psilocybe.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18833471 - 09/12/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet those are an active Pluteus species, did you make print when you found them?
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18833524 - 09/12/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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im so confused nowQuote:
Hashfinger said:
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I don't even think that mushroom on the left is a Psilocybe.
this one looks like a Russula?
im confused as to which collections are which and when these were made. Also found out that Paul staments found baeos as early as "june 20"
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Hashfinger]
#18833529 - 09/12/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said:
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Topcorn said:

I don't even think that mushroom on the left is a Psilocybe.
lol ok dude. baeos are about the easiest active to identify if you ask me. They are always ugly and almost always bluing at least a little. This is photo has some glare but if you look at the top of the baeo cap you can see some bluing, also there are two baeo pins still growing to the left of the picked mushrooms.
was looking at my saved pics on this forum and found this one, same patch as the cyanfib/allenii, the pins make me think its allenii.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Joust]
#18833583 - 09/12/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the glare is throwing you guys off. Aren't russula typically much bigger than this with thick stems? these were 1-2" tall max.
I should be more clear. Only the mushrooms pictured in my first post on this thread are from this year. Most of these pics are from the last three seasons.
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Re: baeos and blue ringers (WA) [Re: Topcorn]
#18833608 - 09/12/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ha I wasn't saying I thought the baeo wasn't a psilocybe, I said the mushroom on the left. The mushroom on the right is CLEARLY a psilocybe, but the one on the left not so much.
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