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Stromrider
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18816535 - 09/08/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just use a liner man. You won't regret it. Learn from successful cultivators. That's what I've done and I've had success. All the best cultivators on here use liners. That statement right there would be enough to convince a wise man to use a liner. Are you a wise man?
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Cpt.Crunch
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Stromrider]
#18816538 - 09/08/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol, I'm not too sure, I'm always trying to figure out little ways around stuff..
I definetly try to do the least amount possible to get by.
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18816564 - 09/08/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cpt.Crunch said: Lol, I'm not too sure, I'm always trying to figure out little ways around stuff..
I definetly try to do the least amount possible to get by.
Hey do u try driving a car using only the brakes! Do u drive a standard car and only use first gear? Lol these methods have been proven 1000x over and they work lol idk why people r trying to figure ways around things when people r trying to help you! These people have grown for a while they have done it with out a liner and realized its bad so u don't have too! U can avoid our suggestions and end up finding out the same results.... -.-
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18816582 - 09/08/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is what I found. Not sure where doc t's thread on it is. Not too convincing I know, thought it was better. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18129465#18129465
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Stromrider
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: smegzilla69]
#18816584 - 09/08/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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smegzilla69 said:
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Cpt.Crunch said: Lol, I'm not too sure, I'm always trying to figure out little ways around stuff..
I definetly try to do the least amount possible to get by.
Hey do u try driving a car with the brakes! Do u drive a standard car and only use first gear? Lol these methods have been proven 1000x over and they work lol idk why people r trying to figure ways around things when people r trying to help you! These people have grown for a while they have done it with out a liner and realized its bad so u don't have too! U can avoid our suggestions and end up finding out the same results.... -.-
It can be frustrating when people ask for advice and you give it to them and they say well I think I will still do it this way. Especially when you know from experience because you have been there and tried that. To me be willing to learn from other peoples mistakes takes wisdom and a lot of humility. You have to say you know maybe I don't know best
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: smegzilla69]
#18816589 - 09/08/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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smegzilla69 said: I have done I side by side of liner no liner and the one with a liner got 2 oz and the one with our a liner got 1oz that was ms tho so those outcomes are not a reliable reference
With isolates or multispore?
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: PussyFart]
#18816592 - 09/08/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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smegzilla69 said: I have done I side by side of liner no liner and the one with a liner got 2 oz and the one with our a liner got 1oz that was ms tho so those outcomes are not a reliable reference
With isolates or multispore?
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PussyFart
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Stromrider]
#18816595 - 09/08/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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my bad....
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Stromrider]
#18816599 - 09/08/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Since I am doing multiple tubs once I start, I will do half with a liner, and half without, I will be sure to post my results.
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Stromrider
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: PussyFart]
#18816601 - 09/08/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Get on the ball hacker! You're slipping man
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Stromrider]
#18816833 - 09/08/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you do decide not to use a liner, a good way to harvest side and bottom pins easily is to get a second storage bin (exactly the same one as your monotub) and after you harvest the fruits from the top of your sub, put the empty bin inside your monotub. Flip the two bins over while they're still inside one another and put them down. At this point your monotub should be upside down on top of the other upside down bin. Remove your monotub and then your substrate will be upside down on top of the empty bin. Harvest everything and put your mono back on, flip them over and remove the empty bin.
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#18816868 - 09/08/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also I'm not going to claim I know better than the people who gave you advice on here because i probably dont but you should take a look at this thread http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17838954/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#18816887 - 09/08/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used to agree with that post until I realized yea u might get more shrooms with out a liner
But my experience shows when u have a liner the fruits r way bigger n denser with out a liner I get a fuck load of lighter shrooms and using the liner outweighs it every time
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: smegzilla69]
#18817023 - 09/08/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've had side pins on one tub and hardly any on another, both with no liner. I've also gotten side pins when I had lines, both clear and black trash bags (although there was much fewer than w/o a liner).
My best yields have been with out a liner, and I used an isolate. Granted, I didnt do a comparison tub to see how much better it was. (I have once done a test, but it wasnt with an iso, it was about 5 or 6 transfers away from MS. The liner tub yielded 4oz and the non liner yielded just over 5oz). But I get 7-8 oz first flushes with out a liner, so I'm going to continue on the trend of no liner. It does absolutely tear up the substrate, but I dont fruit after a second flush, and the difference it would make in yield for the second flush isnt worth it for me, personally.
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Blake_Shroom]
#18818406 - 09/09/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I usually try for 5+ flushes lol that's why.
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: smegzilla69]
#18818414 - 09/09/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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smegzilla69 said: I usually try for 5+ flushes lol that's why.
Yeah you use that high dollar substrate!
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Re: Side pinning is not that bad? [Re: Stromrider]
#18818456 - 09/09/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol helll yea! Nothin better then yeilding 2 extra lbs from additional flushes!!
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EVERYTHING I SAY IS A LIE!!! N ALL MY PICS R STOLEN WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!watch it pay for it self in # of high yield flushes! SO DOPE "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination. " Albert.
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