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jesslet
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Do you need a "reason" to trip?
#18815669 - 09/08/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello all. I've done pleeenty of research on LSD and shrooms, done shrooms once and enjoyed myself thoroughly. It was a really awesome experience.
My question is, is it okay to trip without having a reason to do so? I hold GREAT respect for mushrooms so it's not like I don't know what I'm getting into or anything. I've just read a lot of places that you should know why you're tripping, be it for self-exploration or spiritual discovery, what have you. For me, I'm really content with who I am right now and am also very happy with where I'm at spiritually, so I'm not expecting to "find myself", or have some intense revelation about finding God (I like to think that I already have).
I did shrooms (and enjoyed it) because it was an intensely different experience than anything I've ever felt before. I am hesitant to say I'm using them recreationally, because that implies a certain lack of respect and understanding as to just how powerful they can be. But it was something that was fun to do. I've heard that shrooms will be whatever you want them to be, and that was pretty true for me when I did them. I ate 3.5g dried in chocolate, and didn't have any particularly deep thoughts or revelations about the universe or myself, I just kinda enjoyed the euphoria and watching the walls breathe (among other fantastic visuals).
I am asking this because, in my inexperience, I don't want to be caught off guard and have a terrible trip because I am taking them for the wrong reasons. Any input is greatly appreciated 
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18815676 - 09/08/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sometimes i trip when i feel down and depressed... i got into it knowing im going to have a bad trip but god damn after its over i feel reborn and outlooks are so much better
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18815680 - 09/08/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you're okay with who you are, then theres nothing wrong with just tripping for fun. Only reason I don't really trip anymore is I'm not okay with who I am
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Taybs]
#18815684 - 09/08/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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hahah i mean if you THINK you need a reason then i suppose it would not be productive to do it with a reason. but the truth it is all personal. you can take them however you feel.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18815704 - 09/08/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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jesslet said: I am hesitant to say I'm using them recreationally, because that implies a certain lack of respect
a motorcycle is very powerful, and commands respect or it will (in actuality) kill you... yet people ride them, recreationally, every.damn.day... there is absolutely nothing about "recreational use" that implies disrespect... i think that whole mindset is a byproduct of some judeo/christian guilt trip bullshit... yes, these chemicals can seem to have a "spiritual" side... who the fuck ever said getting spiritual shouldn't be fun...
"to have a good time" is enough reason for me...
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18815803 - 09/08/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You don't need a reason, that's silly.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: leon trout]
#18815811 - 09/08/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, I think you need a reason. Even if it's just because you wanted to do it - that's reason enough (and probably the best reason). I say this because I have shitty memories of laying in bed past 4am on the tail of an acid trip thinking of bad things and asking myself - why the fuck did I do this? I didn't even want to trip. I did it out of boredom, I guess.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Universe]
#18816192 - 09/08/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think one reason to trip could be purely for the experience, most of my trips though have been for bettering myself, tripping tonight actually.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: The5thElement]
#18816364 - 09/08/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is boredom a reason?
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If I want to that's reason enough for me.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18816423 - 09/08/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: If you're okay with who you are, then theres nothing wrong with just tripping for fun. Only reason I don't really trip anymore is I'm not okay with who I am
Same over here.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18816944 - 09/08/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe that tripping just for the novelty of the experience is a perfectly valid reason to trip. So yeah, you've got a reason. Now you know!
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18816948 - 09/08/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18817019 - 09/08/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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SomeGuyX said:
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rbalzer said: If you're okay with who you are, then theres nothing wrong with just tripping for fun. Only reason I don't really trip anymore is I'm not okay with who I am
Same over here.
god that can be the worst. I'm getting closer and closer to being mentally healthy enough to try tripping again. Can't decide if I should micro dose or mega dose 
I heard a theory, which I thought sounded logical, that taking too few mushrooms makes it hard for you to let go and surrender to the experience. Therefore you have fewer stressful/bad trips if you eat enough to totally let go, which is often more then 3.5 grams.
that amount is at least 7g for me. depending on potency (obviously)
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817042 - 09/08/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would a Christian ever wonder if you needed a reason to go to church?
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18817114 - 09/08/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: Would a Christian ever wonder if you needed a reason to go to church?
good way to look at it
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18817245 - 09/08/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My question is, is it okay to trip without having a reason to do so?
Who makes these rules, anyway? 
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18817270 - 09/08/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My question is, is it okay to trip without having a reason to do so?
Who makes these rules, anyway? 
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they're just personal rules. invented when people have a 'bad' mushroom experience and try to figure out why.
thats what i do at least.
I'm like, did i lose respect for them? was it the setting, was it my mood?
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817328 - 09/08/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: If you're okay with who you are, then theres nothing wrong with just tripping for fun. Only reason I don't really trip anymore is I'm not okay with who I am
Same over here.
god that can be the worst. I'm getting closer and closer to being mentally healthy enough to try tripping again. Can't decide if I should micro dose or mega dose 
I heard a theory, which I thought sounded logical, that taking too few mushrooms makes it hard for you to let go and surrender to the experience. Therefore you have fewer stressful/bad trips if you eat enough to totally let go, which is often more then 3.5 grams.
that amount is at least 7g for me. depending on potency (obviously)
I am literally exactly where you are at. I've got a lot of stressful life issues going on right now, and I am trying to work through them. On top of that I don't feel like I can return to the shroom realm almost empty handed. It's taught me a lot, and I am still working on some things to better myself. The things I learned a long time ago.
I am close as well to being able to trip, and I am not sure about my dosage either. I currently have a few CONFIRMED STRONG acid hookup, but I have to resist because I feel like I need to make peace with the shroom "realm" I don't know if I should take an ego destroying dose, and possibly have a very uncomfortable experience (again ) or micro dose and work up to it?
I am very close, and I am introducing someone to the world of psychedelics soon as well. I feel like I have helped a lot in his preparation, but... I just need to be able to go through another trip. I am so nervous to trip again honestly... Meditation and the shroomery has helped though.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18817392 - 09/08/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: If you're okay with who you are, then theres nothing wrong with just tripping for fun. Only reason I don't really trip anymore is I'm not okay with who I am
Same over here.
god that can be the worst. I'm getting closer and closer to being mentally healthy enough to try tripping again. Can't decide if I should micro dose or mega dose 
I heard a theory, which I thought sounded logical, that taking too few mushrooms makes it hard for you to let go and surrender to the experience. Therefore you have fewer stressful/bad trips if you eat enough to totally let go, which is often more then 3.5 grams.
that amount is at least 7g for me. depending on potency (obviously)
I am literally exactly where you are at. I've got a lot of stressful life issues going on right now, and I am trying to work through them. On top of that I don't feel like I can return to the shroom realm almost empty handed. It's taught me a lot, and I am still working on some things to better myself. The things I learned a long time ago.
I am close as well to being able to trip, and I am not sure about my dosage either. I currently have a few CONFIRMED STRONG acid hookup, but I have to resist because I feel like I need to make peace with the shroom "realm" I don't know if I should take an ego destroying dose, and possibly have a very uncomfortable experience (again ) or micro dose and work up to it?
I am very close, and I am introducing someone to the world of psychedelics soon as well. I feel like I have helped a lot in his preparation, but... I just need to be able to go through another trip. I am so nervous to trip again honestly... Meditation and the shroomery has helped though.
I'm really glad you feel almost ready to try again too! I know for me, it's a HUGE part of my life/philosophy, so it feels weird not being able to do it.
On that note, I think I will try one rather small micro dose, which I will use to meditate on the bigger trip I'm building up to.
If I have a good experience on that micro dose, and feel I've really thought it out and feel healthy enough to trip for real, then I'll go for a bigg dose the second time.
I'll likely eat around 7-10 dried grams worth of fresh mushrooms, by the 1 to 10 weight ratio for fresh to dry. Have ego death, rediscover my spiritual side, and find the motivation I need to live life to the fullest!
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817418 - 09/09/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe I joined in on your other thread when you were talking about not being able to trip anymore, and I was feeling the same way. Well, I will probably trip in the next few weeks. I used to trip a lot as well, and it really sucks not being able to go back there. It's almost like a chunk of me is missing now. Soon, I guess...
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817431 - 09/09/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly I can meditate and still experience an out of body on 3.5g. Don't jump into 7-10g. 3.5 is always the best dose. It gives you options to do anything you want. 7-10 gives you no options. I agree if you wanna do 7 grams you need to go into it with the mindset of just letting go of everything. Otherwise 3.5 just to get the real shroom space and the shroom effect.
I too and still do have a huge hesitation towards psychedelics. Seriously 3.5 is everything I needed when I got/get back into it. In fact I'm usually thankful for dosing so low. Usually can't imagine any bigger. Maybe my shrooms are just strong but 3.5 usually kicks me in the ass enough for me to remember who I am again.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817439 - 09/09/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dosing high has only lead to my brain caving in while I am in a different dimension fighting for my sanity. :/ I want to try a high dose like that eventually, but I am currently working up to tripping at all. I will get there with time, too.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817451 - 09/09/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Honestly I can meditate and still experience an out of body on 3.5g. Don't jump into 7-10g. 3.5 is always the best dose. It gives you options to do anything you want. 7-10 gives you no options. I agree if you wanna do 7 grams you need to go into it with the mindset of just letting go of everything. Otherwise 3.5 just to get the real shroom space and the shroom effect.
I too and still do have a huge hesitation towards psychedelics. Seriously 3.5 is everything I needed when I got/get back into it. In fact I'm usually thankful for dosing so low. Usually can't imagine any bigger. Maybe my shrooms are just strong but 3.5 usually kicks me in the ass enough for me to remember who I am again.
No offense bro, but it sounds like you personally can't handle doses higher than 3.5 grams. Or you're not interested in trying. This is totally legit, some people get everything they desire out of that kind of medium dose trip.
But me, I can handle high dose trips, not meaning to brag, but it's just a fact. I had my spiritual awakening on 10 grams, and that night was also the most fun I have ever had in my life by farrr.
To REALLY get inside your head, really get to know yourself, gain crazy insight, see mind blowing and possibly important visions, you, or at least I need 7 grams ish.
But again, thats just me
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817477 - 09/09/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've done 14 grams once and 10g a bunch. I just don't see any reson to do it anymore. It usually just leaves me in bed for 8+ hours with intense mind loops, even AFTER letting go, I can let go but to keep gone is also a tough act. If you're seeking ego death it can be achieved on low doses. You always have a piece of ego loss every time but you can still let go from it with a solid meditation. I just enjoy euphoria rather than psychosis. Just my opinion. Not saying you don't feel great but u can still feel great on lower doses alone too.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817504 - 09/09/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.S. if you can handle high doses why are you afraid of yourself? You dose high to find yourself. I just can find myself on low doses. Maybe it's something you get with experience but no lie high doses is what made me scared of myself in the first place. Well my ego. Low doses is what made me balance my ego. To accept it for what it is. Every trip can be spiritual. It actually boggles me you think only 7+ is. Don't underestimate the power of shrooms in any dose.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817551 - 09/09/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: P.S. if you can handle high doses why are you afraid of yourself? You dose high to find yourself. I just can find myself on low doses. Maybe it's something you get with experience but no lie high doses is what made me scared of myself in the first place. Well my ego. Low doses is what made me balance my ego. To accept it for what it is. Every trip can be spiritual. It actually boggles me you think only 7+ is. Don't underestimate the power of shrooms in any dose.
You're making some good points, and even somewhat changing my mind on the subject. I possibly just don't have enough experience.
I shouldn't have said only 7g can be spiritual. It's just more intensely spiritual the higher the dose.
I became afraid of myself when I started doing some less than noble acts. Nothing too bad, but nothing I wanna talk about right now.
Maybe my next trip will force me to face it and move on.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817576 - 09/09/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Noble" what is that? All you're doing is letting your ego place boundaries. Accept it for what it is and move on. The real lesson that psychedelics teach is to live in the moment. When you're "finding yourself" all you're doing is living in the moment like a spirit would (note spirituality). If you live in the moment you have no fears or worries. No societal pressure. All you have is you and what you want. Psychedelics amplify this 100000x but still you can live daily like this too. Besides what else is real besides this moment anyways? The past is just memories and the future is blank. Even memories can be changed like repressed memories. But you can't literally change the moment.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817608 - 09/09/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once I've tripped, I feel like... "satisfied", not sure if thats a real good word for it, but it sort of deplete my urge to trip for a while, until I have another huge back up of thoughts, ideas, struggles, problems, goals, etc. that begin to brim from my brain. Then shrooms, resets it again, sort of starting anew chapter, not that what was before was thrown away, but it gets reorganized, prioritized and sort of... settled.
There are definitely times in my life where I feel a psych trip would be a really good thing for myself, and other times it does not appeal to me at all in the current situation (i.e. during school when there is a lot of work to do, times where i am mentally exhausted, going through a particularly rough period of time).
I usually find psychs (especially mushrooms) are awesome to do at very high/relaxed points in my life.
for example, about a year ago, all in about a month, I got accepted to the school of my dreams, began dating one of the most gorgeous girls i had ever met, and my music had taken a turn for the better. I had a mushroom trip during that time and I was almost overwhelmed by life, like what was to come, that no matter what happens there will be so many good thigns and opportunities for me. I was grinning for hours.
And after, I felt totally okay with not tripping again for another few months. brings a sense of calm to my mind for months afterwards. But this may just be me, i have many friends with varying degrees of experience in psychs and say they feel no different nor enlightened days/weeks after while I feel different for months.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18818692 - 09/09/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just repect the mushrooms. All those wonderful thoughts and sensations can also spiral towards hell. Know your dose and prepare wisely.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: thormaxim]
#18818738 - 09/09/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I prefer medium doses, I get the most out of medium doses.
3.5Gs is medium to me.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18818749 - 09/09/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If its mushrooms; it's nothing less than 5 grams. I really really love the 7 gram trips. Scary as fuck; but the outcome usually is mass healing.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18818808 - 09/09/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The best reason to trip is when the weather is nice, you are in good spirits, and you have nothing to do for 24 hours.
these substances are not fun for the heart broken or discontented.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: ressa69]
#18819023 - 09/09/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you dont need a reason to trip, you need a reason not to trip like having to work in the morning or having to drive or too tired
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Ogla]
#18819308 - 09/09/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18819967 - 09/09/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only "reason" you need is that you want to. If you don't want to, don't. This has worked well for me for many years. 
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18820503 - 09/09/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sometimes i do it for fun. sometimes i do it to watch movies and either have a visual experience through the movie or a mental one. sometimes i do it to die and be reborn. sometimes i do it to think.
one trip in particular i spent a good 2 hours thinking about history and all the big accomplishments man has made to get to where we are and how that could have been me, i could have thought of those things. then i started thinking about all the jobs out there and how they don't seem all that hard. just takes a bit of learning and practice. i was thinking about computer engineers and astrophysicists and plumbers and construction workers and how if i had it in my heart and i wanted to i could do any and everything. then i was thinking more and everyone that has those jobs is human and i'm a human. just a little mental epiphany i had never thought about before.
sometimes i do it because i'm bored and have a night to myself. others i spend all day planning around my trip. fasting for 6-10 hours before the trip and such.
I don't really think you need a reason but anything you say in response to "why'd you trip tonight?" would in essence be your reason for that particular trip.
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FakePlasticSky said: If its mushrooms; it's nothing less than 5 grams. I really really love the 7 gram trips. Scary as fuck; but the outcome usually is mass healing.
This. Some people can't handle, or don't enjoy, the intensity of the really trippy trips. But the benefits are much greater than low dose
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18820625 - 09/09/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trip for fun and love :-)
And don't worry
Love + finding the values in life that make you happy don't lie, but use moderately anyway
Use to embrace life, not to escape life
I have tripped maybe 150 times on LSD usually high doses, 30 times shrooms, and salvia too :-) and died on both a few times , egodeath can be a bit intense, not sure I will recommend that(takes years to process), you only know if you want to go there (it can be very good too, but each person has to decide for himself, and its always a possibility with psychedelics - thats what they do in the end) (had a NDE on 4g shroom chocolates and death on 3.5-4g too)
Always great experiences, if you get a bad experience it's usually a sign you need to take a break (tried that), after the break the trips were as good as ever
Egodeath = the red pill, if there is such a thing, I think there is  it will force you to rethink your whole life , and likely change your life in many ways if you go there (and it usually happens randomly , you might trip 100 times, or only 1-2 times before it happens) it might change nothing as well (if you already found yourself) for me the changes have been positive, I would never want to go back to my old self
egodeath gave me the same effect as the trip, everyday appreciation, acceptance of everything and very humbling too , impossible to get unhappy since it seeing the world and myself like first time I saw it, everyday since, appreciating everything I see it both has positives and bads, I would do it again if I was my old fake self ;-)
it's a spiritual path, and I think I was ready to start on one, because my life had been going wrong for a long time happened when I least expected it but at the right time
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: lessismore]
#18821040 - 09/09/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bad reasons to trip: - Because you can - Just for the fuck of it - Nothing else to do - It's more fun than studying for tomorrow's test - To head off an impending nervous breakdown - To make a trip to the dentist more fun
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Universe]
#18821100 - 09/09/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Universe said: Bad reasons to trip: - Because you can - Just for the fuck of it - Nothing else to do - It's more fun than studying for tomorrow's test - To head off an impending nervous breakdown - To make a trip to the dentist more fun
another one I've found is bad is, just to get high. Like if you're addicted to something, run out of it, and take mushrooms to compensate, thats a huggge mistake IME
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Universe]
#18821103 - 09/09/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because you can? How is that bad? Just for the fuck of it? Some of the best things I've ever done were just for the fuck of it. Nothing else to do. Well a idle mind is of no use or no positivity. Feed your brain. More fun than studying. Ill agree with you on this one, stay well studied people. Nervous breakdown. Eh, fuck nervous breakdowns but don't eat shrooms during them. Dentist. Who goes to the dentist? Brush your teeth and all is well.
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rbalzer said:
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FakePlasticSky said: If its mushrooms; it's nothing less than 5 grams. I really really love the 7 gram trips. Scary as fuck; but the outcome usually is mass healing.
This. Some people can't handle, or don't enjoy, the intensity of the really trippy trips. But the benefits are much greater than low dose
I didn't argue that the benefits aren't great. I'm saying basically keep doing 7 grams and tell me how much you love it. 99% of the time I'm not ready to go through the 7g trip. But I'm always ready for a 3.5g trip. There's nothing wrong with enjoying shrooms. I used to say 5+g is how it is but I have found a much deeper appreciation for low doses. The people who only dose high usually only do it once a month or once every few months after too much of it. Still I enjoy psychedelics too much to do it so little(and sounds like you do too since you're saying how you love em but don't do them enough).
High doses can heal but why can't lower? I bet if you give 2g shot like I did after too many high doses you'll find that 2g can also be very magical but in a fun way. Lying in bed for the first 2 hours before you get raped by giggles and finding yourself can be amazing, but not every trip. I've had 4g trips rape more than some 7g trips. I just don't see why every trip needs to be big. Small doses can rape too depending on the day. So just eat what you want for a good time. Sometimes it'll go intense. Why make it intense regardless? I think half the fun is not knowing what'll happen.
Edited by Mad Season (09/09/13 10:53 PM)
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It seems Mad Season is defensive about his small dosing of mushrooms - but hey, everyone has their preference. It seems both parties (low and high dosing) experience very spiritual and meaningful experiences, let's just settle for the obvious reason: everyone is different.
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Re: Do you need a [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18821276 - 09/09/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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SomeGuyX said: It seems Mad Season is defensive about his small dosing of mushrooms - but hey, everyone has their preference. It seems both parties (low and high dosing) experience very spiritual and meaningful experiences, let's just settle for the obvious reason: everyone is different. 
yeah I thought I remembered saying that he was right, and that I should respect, and try more often, low doses.
I've been wanting to do a micro dose experiment anyways.
and of course 7g and up trips are only once a month, maybe once every 2-3 months
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The people who only dose high usually only do it once a month or once every few months after too much of it. Still I enjoy psychedelics too much to do it so little(and sounds like you do too since you're saying how you love em but don't do them enough).
I dose high and when I get into it I do it several days a week, compensating for tolerance. It connects me with the universe like nobody's business. YMMV.
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Medium doses, once a month, trumps all. Maybe one or two high doses a year. No low doses for me anymore, if shit isn't morphing then ya didn't do it right.
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PrimalSoup MEGA-doses.
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Re: Do you need a [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18821386 - 09/09/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha sorry for coming off as a dick I just think telling a newbie 7+ is the only way to trip is ridiculous. Also I'd like to point out that basically everyone can handle a high dose if they know what they're getting into. Still though most people (myself included) get cocky and go big before bothering to understand and it'll rape them hard.
Especially if they're asking if they even need a reason to trip. I now only do 7g with the reason it'll rape me hard as do you I bet. Because when all's said and done the worst trips always turn into the best trips.
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Re: Do you need a [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18821912 - 09/10/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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SomeGuyX said: PrimalSoup MEGA-doses. 
I try it small once in a while, just to see if I still don't like it. 
But there's no right or wrong way, 'cause damned if I ever saw instructions written on shrooms. 
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I don't like to get raped too hard by mushrooms either. I like the smaller doses, even starting out small before dosing up more. It's all preference
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Re: Do you need a [Re: jesslet]
#18822622 - 09/10/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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having a reason seems to me like you would go into the trip with an expectation, as tripping is unpredictable to a certain extent i tend to find this counter-productive.
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Re: Do you need a [Re: druqs]
#18823051 - 09/10/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I usually expect to trip. 
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Anytime and every time ive taken a psychedelic its been with a sense of adventure and chance. Knowing in my heart and mind I wouldn't die must help me I guess. I had feelings of nervousness and anxiety but I've never had a trip that made me worry about going back. Like was said above the only reason I wouldn't do them is a responsibility. I would do them all the time but if I could. Once or twice a month. If all goes well Ill do a couple smaller trips with the ole lady and one with a couple friends who want to try then I'm gonna try to cook my biscuits with a hefty dose of some PE. My favorite trips so far were on the very brink of losing reality completely with spells of"there" and a loss of language in my head. Id like to swim in the deep end and if it lands me in a world of shit and dead bodies then thats where I go. Fck it!
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